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fishon
post Oct 16 2012, 12:15 AM

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Gotta skip. Maybe Wednesday or Thursday. Or maybe will just go exotic
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:57 AM

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Viox. Anytime la. not far from my place. Wanna go? Bring your Penrod. Haha.
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 02:16 AM)
u get quite a lot info on OFB, I've done some search and what i know is there are rooms for rent for RM30 a day, with air-cond, u can fish from the lighhouse which is stagnant, or u can ask ur boatman to bring u nearby for biggies, shud be a comfortable trip. boat alone will cost slightly over 100 per pax. apollo for bait fish, bait fish for biggies, never been there but have been reading quite a lot bout it. anything else u need to know bro? if next month the rain slows down, then we can organise a trip
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Anything else I need to know? Yes. When are we going? Haha

Sorry there is abit of info but it's generally in malay. What I found anyways. And my Malay not so good these days anymore.

Boatman prices I have no idea. Does the boatman stay with you as well?

Sounds interesting nonetheless.
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post Oct 16 2012, 10:21 AM

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Rory,

Yeah understand what you're saying. Sorry should have made it clearer. I actually want a overhead rod. Thats what we call it in Oz. Here it's either spinning or casting. I get abit confused sometimes.
My saltist is a 30TH which is a jigging reel with the narrow spool. I've used it for bait fishing as well. Live bait bottom and balloon rig abd Bottom bashing as well. Also with jigging. As for actually casting it.....never! haha
Always using gloves too. Never without it. Sun protection and because of braid these days it's much much better to use gloves. Dangerous like you said.

You speak very highly of the Eupro rod which got me interested. However would still prefer either a PE1-3 or Pe2-4 about 6 foot.

Thanks for the info though much appreciated.


Added on October 16, 2012, 10:22 am
QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Oct 16 2012, 09:58 AM)
HAHA,No game for the penrod.
u suggest time  smile.gif
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Got big tilapia right? lol
You mean today? or you suggest day i suggest time?

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post Oct 16 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 01:09 PM)
Ah...

i would only recommend if i personally tested the rod and knowing it's capabilities. I hardly buy rods nowadays mainly because i build them myself since a couple years ago. smile.gif

As for your jigging rod of PE 1~3 or PE2~4, you can consider Shimano's range.They have quite a few good range and stabile rod without causing much torque to your wrist. Check out Blue Rose or Jigrex. Blue Rose is a spiral wrap rod guides, have medium tip and strong backbone. But again, it depends on what type of jigging method that you regularly used. I'll come to that point after this. As for jig rex, it's fast tapered all rounder.

Jigging technique vs compatibility rod smile.gif

1. Fast short jig aka speed jigging
- This method is usually with light jigging jigs, due to the speed of jigging, it may cause fatique easily to many anglers. For this jigging method to be effective, pairing a long slender jig plates(maybe jig butt a little bigger, or waist line a big bigger) would be much preferred. This way, the jig does not have much hydrodynamic and it's more towards the darting actions. Using these type of jigs, it would perform better with fast tapered rod. Again, i repeat - mostly light jigging(not even mid or heavy)

2. Medium speed jigging
-Now as for medium speed jiggings, it is performed in such that allowing the jigs to flutter its way down. With fluttering actions, it would be staying in the strike zone longer thus having more strikes. Another type of jigs could be used is the whirling jigs. Have a close up look of the jig and imagine the hydrodynamic of the jig shape. It could be having the same jig weight as speed jigging, but due to the in-built actions, the rod will be felt heavier. TO pair with this method of jigging and jigs, go for 60/40 rods, meaning medium or medium fast rod. If the rod is too stiff, it usually cause blisters, but even if the rod is slightly softer, it would be easier to jig as slower motions compared to speed jigging.

3. Long stroke jigging
- Long stroke is practically giving a quick shot of upwards action, and allow the lure to sink whilst you cranking in line. These long stroke jigs are usually much heavier, at the range of 200g and above. With the help of waist belt harness, you minimised the factor of bruising too. This method is recommended to use medium rods, as you are allowing the jigs to be within strike zone and target species are not at super car speeds.

4. Lazy man aka yoyo
- Another calling is called inchiku, but inchiku is more to the jig type, rather than the technique. Basically playing yoyo. Slower taper rod would be best, but make sure it comes with good backbone when the strike kicks in!

All the methods above, truly dependant on the target species that you are hunting for.


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:09 pm

Enjoy bro.
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Awesome write up bro. Thanks for taking the time. Gonna save this to a document somewhere. I've seen the Jigwrex. Sweet rod....sweet price too haha
I don't do as much saltwater as fresh plus the east coast season is closed now sad.gif so possibly wait for abit before buying. Unless we go OFB, then again I'll just borrow my brother's rod. heh
Thanks heaps for the info


Added on October 16, 2012, 2:46 pm
QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 01:19 PM)
Boatman stays with u, tats y if no fish on the lighthouse u can ask him to bring u somewhere else. Boat rental around 1k-1.2k, can fit max 10 pax


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:27 pmBro takeshiru, this saturday port klang trip u on? If not have to find someone else. Pls let me know ya, thx
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OIC...interesting. Hope it's not just Gelema or whatever it's called. They look small haha

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post Oct 16 2012, 02:50 PM

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Added on October 16, 2012, 2:52 pm
QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 02:47 PM)
Bro FishOn,
If you are hitting on east coast, and purely jigging - you would just need a light jigging setup. Mostly casting with 40g to 80g nia. Depending on the current condition. Fast water 80g lor... and the area is not deep too.

Unless bottom for parrot fish, you need fast tapered and heavier setup

If sailfish, the Eupro Salty Fighter would do it liao... but of course, you wan to have more control, PE2~4 is sufficient. Anything more would be over kill biggrin.gif
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Correct. Hence why thinking of a Pe1-3 Rod.
Isn't the Eupro 0.8 - 2 or something?
Unfortunately my reel has 30lb Braid.

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fishon
post Oct 16 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 02:57 PM)
Get the full white one also and the Chartruese
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So happy with my purchase then you mentioned Chartreuse....damn gotta go back and grab one now. lol


Added on October 16, 2012, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 03:23 PM)
yeap PE 0.8 to PE2

More than enough to jig for east coast waters. Light jigging ma

Storm recently launched Gomoku Erito PE0.8-PE1.5 nia... It is being shot at east coast water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNQdL6DCMZM
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Does that mean I have to change my braid? Or be really careful with my drag setting.

Man that Storm rod loooks goooodd.....nice! Didn't see it at Kepong though.


Added on October 16, 2012, 3:45 pm
QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 03:29 PM)
Did a search up on some other light jigging rods.

Zerek Light Tamer has 2 model 0.8-1 / 1-3PE
comes iwth Fuji KTSG guides and seat.

Golden Mean Sable Dance Pe2
full Fuji SIC

Storm Erito going RM300 in SS2
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Man some sweet sweet rods. The Golden Mean looks awesome too.

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post Oct 16 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 03:53 PM)
Bro FishOn,
30lb is good for light to medium fishing. It's ok.

If you're seeking thrills, go for 15~20lb light jigging.

I personally have tried 8lb braid on a 30+kg sail, STX 1st edition
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I'm just wondering as the braid is new and most definitely will break the rod under full load.
I'm all for light fishing as well but as I do not consume fish I like to bring in fish (not skull dragged) to the boat as soon as possible. Whilst still having fun wink.gif I think it's generally better for the fishes health especially in shallower water. Much deeper water like offshore in Sydney we do take our time a little bit. Not nice seeing a fish with an inflated swim bladder.

8lb 30+kg sail? Madness hahaha nice one Rory!
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post Oct 16 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 04:14 PM)
Bro FishOn...

Imagine this... smile.gif

1. 30lb braided line (which likely to break at 45lb)
2. light jigging rod, backbone at PE2 = 32lb stress
3. your reel which contains, 150~200m of 30lb....

BEST part is...... tadaaa!

Your line wont break... your rod wont break... BECAUSE your reel will be spewing line ma..... smile.gif
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Yala so I will need to adjust my drag pretty fine la. hehe if not Tadaaaa maybe rod and reel also dont have haha
Actually it has 300m of 30lb. Still little bit underfilled. Thanks for narrowing it down for me. Now to physically put my reel on the rods and off we go. smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 04:27 PM)
My dream,.. one day to own
1) Daiwa Ryoga
2) Shimano COnquest DC

Spinning
1) Shimano Rarenium CI4+
2) Daiwa Exist

WHats your dream ?
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I dream for Malaysia to have a harder stance on sustainable fishing and legal and bag limits which are strictly enforced....

...oh you mean gear? hehe


Added on October 16, 2012, 4:48 pm
QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 04:42 PM)
Dont intend to sell....muahahaha....

Avid anglers = FREEEEEEEEE!
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I dream to be your FRIEND! LOL


Added on October 16, 2012, 4:50 pm
QUOTE(kayent @ Oct 16 2012, 04:41 PM)
Bro fishon, how much u bought the fluttersticks for and where?

Me wan restock on them. Mine habis the hook terkangkang ady. And my ghost white got snagged & lost it.  wink.gif

I dream of owning my own fishing lake with a variety of fishes and then I can fish there for free all day.  tongue.gif
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Sup!

I got them from JM fishing (freddie) He stocks alot of Storm And Rapala. They were $22 each. 3" 7cm 7g
Viox recommended smile.gif

Ps- if u got a lake I'd be happy to pay hehe

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post Oct 16 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(kayent @ Oct 16 2012, 04:55 PM)
Noted  biggrin.gif

Haha...if i got lake free for all LYN anglers.  tongue.gif

Give me 10 years...i go back Sarawak buy cheap native land and buka fishing pond. next time retirement, just lepak there tongue.gif
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Damn far wei! haha
If in Sarawak got lots of rivers and open ocean. No need lake.....KL better.... tongue.gif


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post Oct 16 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 05:05 PM)
i think so far away, gelama will be very rare..btw gelama can grow to as big as u bro..ahah
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Not when ppl keep ice boxes full of small one's. haha
I'd be keen for OFB anyways thumbup.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 05:56 PM)
i usually got yong tau foo at batu 9 near the chinese school.
But anything in Puchong Jaya or Bandar Puteri also can.

Bro fishon,
You selling reel ar ?
http://www.mudah.my/Abu+Garcia+LPBC+Fishin...el-18407721.htm
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YA! lol joking... not me man
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post Oct 16 2012, 06:44 PM

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can anyone help me, there's a new paypond in Sg Buloh which I might go try tomorrow. I'm guessing dedak would be best. I've seen people use it with a "spring and hook". Anyone know how to rig one up? Should i be using a float as well? (cause they did at BungsamRan)
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post Oct 16 2012, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 06:48 PM)
buy a floater then it suspend lor hehehe
U compress the dedak into the spring, then put pallates into each hooks.
make sure you soften you pallates.
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ya should i float or bottom? haha I'm not a bait person man lol
With the hook, Ive seen people use braid tied directly. That ok?


Added on October 16, 2012, 6:55 pm
QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 06:50 PM)
target fish bro? BungsamRan they use float, cuz the fishes there feed tat way, which is weird cuz mekong fish is bottom feeder
this paypond in SG Buloh got MEKONG?? drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Says on the flyer got Rohu, Patin, Tongsan, Pacu and Mekong haha
Yeah strange how it takes "topwater" baits. Can see their tails thrashing the surface etc.

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post Oct 16 2012, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(kayent @ Oct 16 2012, 07:08 PM)
Based on my experience, bottoming will land u more patins then mekongs.

If wan play dedak using spring it's advised to use floaters if the pond permits the use. Got two style of playing:

1) fixed floater by attaching the float direct to the swivel or using a dropper loop with one end as the floater or
2) live floater like at BSR where the floater is attached to the mainline with a stopper somewhere along the line based on the water depth.

when playing float its crucial that u make sure it doesn't wobble around or float away in the water. If not ur dedak will spread all over the place then lesser bite rate. Haha

A strong braid with hook can be attached to the bottom of the spring. Length of braid approx spring length. Can attach pellet to the hook like what bro $1 said or leave it empty. Concept is catfish eat by suction, so when they suck the dedak it will suck together the hook inside.

My 2 cents opinion. Btw what this pond name? What the charges
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I see. Thanks for the info. Probably try bottom as I will be going at less then an ideal time and the noon sun is hot. If fails, will try float. smile.gif
Mixing the dedak is another issue. haha wish me luck.

Pond is called Legasi Fishing Pond at Sungai Plong Sungai Buloh Behind Honda Showroom.
Apparently jsut opened from the 9th of Sept. Fee is $30 for 5 hours. Seems pretty cheap. Maybe to attract new customers....I'm hoping anyways smile.gif


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QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 07:40 PM)
charges? CNR?
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Freddie from JM said can take back.

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post Oct 16 2012, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(kumanosuke @ Oct 16 2012, 07:56 PM)
FishOn, Can join you ? seems pretty near to my place and cheap too

what time you going ?
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Can can.
Not sure to do morning or noon.
See if I feel like driving the gf to work, If I don't then morning lol

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post Oct 16 2012, 08:46 PM

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Google Honda showroom sungai pelong smile.gif

Viox. Tow foo now not so good. Besides wanna try someplace new
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Oct 16 2012, 09:00 PM)
i see,havent been there since awhile.
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Yeah. People go and they get funny sacks full of bread and throw throw throw. Plus he's releasing new fish. Not sure if they even accustomed to bread yet.
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post Oct 16 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 10:07 PM)
new fishes good news for lures hehehe
but paid pond very difficult and troublesome. Need to buy and change to single hook, adding more cost to the lures.
One reason why i like subang and prima is because no trouble for my lures.
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I use trebles there. Uncle never say anything. Hehe
Where is this prima? One of mates said it used to be good. Now alot of rubbish.


Added on October 16, 2012, 10:59 pm
QUOTE(katsumoto2011 @ Oct 16 2012, 10:11 PM)
you mean the new fish in tow foo ?????

they just release around 2 tan of patin into that pond in july , so fast restock ?
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Sorry bad english meant to say he's been releasing new fish. Most prob from that last round in july

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