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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Sep 3 2006, 10:23 AM

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post Oct 1 2006, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(yuckfou @ Oct 1 2006, 12:43 AM)
for a 1.3 gl (carb) wira.
plan to change extractor(4-2-1 zenden),bullet n air filter(K&N).
is this plan ok?
any other brands and what are the prices?
anywhere reliable/recommended place to fix around wangsa maju/setapak?
zenden 4-2-1 = proton ori 4-2-1
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post Oct 2 2006, 06:56 PM

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if you're running carb, changing the air filter will not affect your fuel system.
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post Oct 18 2006, 01:05 AM

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no matter how u mod it, kancil 660 is really seriously underpowered. it's just a normal commuting car, not worth to mod. better save the money for something else.... think wise.
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post Oct 25 2006, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(kweng84 @ Oct 18 2006, 09:36 AM)
soulfly: howie has done a lot on his car , i guess he wont be selling that car but only buy a new car...his kancil is a rare species with self-tuned ICE system...hehe:) maybe gf drives that kancil and he buy a monster car biggrin.gif
should just stick with ice mod then...

anyway, why not try get Powerzone's kancil extractor?

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post Oct 29 2006, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(deepoce @ Oct 26 2006, 11:46 PM)
I change my exhaust system.
However still feel low pick-up power.
So I wanted to change the air filter to improve performance.
Any idea?
My car is 1.5 Wira manual.
4-2-1 ext with midbox,1.7" piping and straight-muffler.
Pls advice!
which 4-2-1 do u have? cap ayam? powerzone? hotbits?

actually the original piping diameter is sufficient enough. with a performance tuned extractor, that should improve your powerband. removing the catalytic converter (for EFI) and change the muffler to a sporty s-flow muffler will give u a good result.

QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Oct 27 2006, 06:25 PM)
Any good mod for stock muffler (Saga LMST 2004 model), not that much expensive~
thanks
The stock one is very very bising like hell when going high rev.
i suggest a muffler replacement... no need to mod because the lmst muffler really is lousy.

stock small tip muffler (like most oem cars) shouldn't be too expensive. or any big box type muffler.

actually you can tell the exhaust workshop that you want a silent muffler, they'll recommend you something.



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post Dec 19 2006, 02:16 PM

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Actually I'm a little skeptic about Hotbits exhausts systems. HotBits was originally not an exhaust expert/tuning company... they made it big through suspension systems they designed. And interesting thing is... HotBits exhaust are only available in Malaysia.
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the further will give better midrange power
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post Feb 26 2007, 08:57 PM

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the CAT's purpose is to reduce emission

it does not affect fuel consumption by itself. most probably it'll be just driver's foot behaviour.

but theoretically more power = more fuel
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Most new car nowadays use 4-2-1 extractors already out of factory. Take note of that. If you just want to change to some 4-2-1 you saw at accessories or exhaust workshops, you're just wasting money because they're made to replicate original extractor for replacement use only.

I believe a lot of people overlooked this.

If want to get performance gain by changing the extractor, get the one made by performance tuner, not some generic cap ayam.
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turbo10, awesome Celica u got there.... TA22?
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QUOTE(matthewctj @ Aug 8 2007, 12:19 PM)
While that may be true in many cases, there are reputable shops (not tuners) who do quality replications of tuned extractors ie. Mugen, Spoon, TRD, etc .... what consumers have to know is how to differentiate it and know that what they are buying is not a replica of their stock extractor.
For those Honda or Toyota, that might actually be a good thing.

but as for Proton, or Perodua... there's almost no real tuner item to replicate

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Aug 20 2007, 10:55 PM)
Question:
i)What are the benefits of a "swirling" type bullet
ii) Why are there "longer" and "shorter" swirling bullet?

Currently I already have a MUGEN Twin Loop exhaust (and mine is not VTEC engine) on my 1.3L with stock piping and stock center box.I find the twin loop did improve my low-end torque until 4000RPM but after that, the engine struggles to meet the 6000RPM. Sometimes it will be stuck at 5500RPM for a long time.

So the exhaust "specialist" suggested I get the "swirling" bullet compared to normal "RM 90" bullets, apart from enlargeing the pipe.
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swirling bullet is purely gimmick. the best way is not having bullet at all. or at least get a bullet with the smoothest inlet.

I would like to stress over and over again. Bullet does not add power. Show me a dyno chart to prove that bullet adds horsepower or torque.
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a midbox would be a better noise supressor than a normal bullet. I personally use a straight flow midbox which is modified into a rear muffler. i have another bullet in the center of the exhaust piping

my car exhaust setup is:

[extractor][2.5" piping][bullet with 2.5" inlet][2.5" piping][midbox straight flow 2.6" inlet][2.5" piping][4" exhaust tip]

... and it's not noisy. i pass every JPJ roadblock so far.

as long as the bullet/midbox have good quality fiber inside... noise reduction should be good
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Sorry, do not discuss anything about gimmick products in here ok. Strictly 'real man' intake/exhaust modification discussion.
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try look for hks silent hi-power, or even the non-silent version should do just fine.

that if you get the original version of course.

p/s: can't believe this topic is still around...heheh.
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QUOTE(ckthiam @ Mar 19 2011, 12:35 AM)
I m driving swift sport auto..thinking of changing the exhaust...any recomment?price n brand?
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Since you're driving Swift Sport ... probably this blog will give you some idea on mods.

http://suzukiswiftsport.blogspot.com/
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QUOTE(setayel @ Jun 15 2011, 12:15 PM)
you don't get power by just adding bullet or midbox. adding bullet or midbox and its placement only affect the power curve. no matter how you look at it, bullet/resonators/mufflers give some kind of restriction to the exhaust flow.

remember, real max power comes from the header design and a proper piping setup. bullets/resonator box/muffler are just there to suppress noise.
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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Feb 26 2012, 02:47 AM)
my car setup currently is
3-1 extractor
flexible pipe(2")
stock bullet (1.5")
fake apexi S-flow muffler (2")

piping from extractor to stock bullet is 1.6"
piping from stock bullet till the end is 1.5" (stock piping)

wat i facing is RM50 for my viva
always be on MRR2 from kepong to setapak..
80-100 km/h , normally not over 3k rpm..
i only can get 330km for rm 50...

any suggestion?? >< Thx
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if you want to be more economical, change the muffler back to stock. otherwise, a slight change in fuel consumption is expected if you alter your exhaust system off the original spec
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Feb 29 2012, 02:07 AM)
helo to all the sifus,i have a question in my mind,can the satria neo oxygen sensor used in saga blm???coz currently i am using the wai xxxx 421 extractor for my car,until recently i wanna try satria neo 421 extractor on my car coz the 2 Y joint is equal height,unlike the1 i using now from wai xxxx is 1 up 1 down,so i tot it will be more balance???so i tot of putting the o2 sensor at the end of the 2 joint but found out dat it was too short,and i tink dat putting the o2 sensor at btm will have more accurate reading of a/f instead of putting on top isnt it??

so my question is can the satria neo o2 sensor used on saga blm coz its longer???and o2 sensor at the btm of the "2" joint will not have the idling not stable problem rite??and last one,isit worth it for me to replace the extractor???coz satria neo extractor is longer??thx a million.....
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What more important is that the extractor primary pipes are of the same length, even if it's '1 up 1 down'.

You have to check whether the two O2 sensors are physically the same. I think the wires should be the same, only different in length.

Longer and bigger extractor makes power at higher revs. You have to consider whether your 1.3 BLM engine can produce more power at higher revs, otherwise it's not much useful.

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