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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Apr 6 2006, 10:37 AM

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'supposed' to be legal
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post Apr 6 2006, 12:38 PM

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stick with the original header/extractor..... but probably for the piping you can try 2" diamter piping.

and it looks like your fuel consumption is comparable with my b16a. it should be normal because it's a V6.... extra cylinders plus extra weight
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post Apr 12 2006, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(freak @ Apr 12 2006, 12:57 PM)
I got a question regarding the bullet.
What is the difference between a straight flow and the spinning one? Does the spinning ones keep more air? If so what are the advantages?
And what is the difference between a short and a long bullter? Does the size really matter? Will a car with a lower CC lose power if equipped with a long bullet?
i'm not pretty sure what u mean by 'spinning one' .... but straight flowing inlet should provide better flow. the smoother the gas flow, the better it is.

between short and long.... the shorter is better. in fact.... no bullet will give even better gas flow. but the thing is.... the purpose of a bullet is to reduce noise. the longer or the bigger, the better it is.

s-flow resonator works the best at noise reduction.
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post Apr 17 2006, 12:43 PM

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Very useful link although too techie to be understand by some people....

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post Apr 22 2006, 07:58 PM

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The cat is the most restrictive part in the exhaust system. There will be some minor significant improvement by removing it.
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post Apr 23 2006, 11:53 AM

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it depends

if you have O2 sensor on/after the cat, probably you'll end up with slightly richer air/fuel ratio.

as for noise, as far as i could remember it doesn't affect the exhaust noise at all.
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post May 4 2006, 11:20 AM

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Iswara don't have cat (according one of our member).

If you're thinking of running without any extra bullets or silencers, a good S-flow type muffler will be very helpful in reducing the noise. Running loud car is not a good idea, especially when you have just an ordinary engine. It is annoying and does not prove anything.
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eventhough you want to aim for pickup, but i bet the automatic transmission will make things seemed 'unnoticable'

what car are u having there anyway.... aristo? i guess, you can go for any type of muffler.... it depends on your taste. if you're aiming for power, i'd say a whole exhaust system upgrade is a must.

you can also get an SAFC and tune it for better performance.
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post May 27 2006, 10:34 AM

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can... that's why you need to choose proper exhaust muffler and the right setup
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post May 27 2006, 02:02 PM

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the bigger the muffler 'stomach', usually the better it is at reducing noise, unless the fiber material inside it already finish or not 'fit' enough
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post Jun 5 2006, 06:04 PM

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i thought it was firing order! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cheewin88 @ Jun 9 2006, 12:30 PM)
bro,i also need some suggestions from u all,
wat kinds of mufflerand exhaust system shuld i fit into turbo car...
i owned a e28 wif rb20det, i sick wif my turbine, now using the third...stock turbine..
everythings i boot up my car feel like N/A, first and second turbine spoiled coz i din change a good exhaust system for it...
coz of my frenz told me my exhaust system too small.. now using 2" paiping and 4-2-1, need help guys..i can't every speed it up ever i drive turbo... ish... sumore scare the turbine spoil again...
pls guys... teach me wat to do
yes... your piping does sounds too small for a 2.0 turbocharged....and what's up with that 4-2-1? turbo engines use turbo manifold. turbo manifold does not have 4-1 or 4-2-1... the four extracting pipes just go into the turbo.

you should go at least with a 2.5" piping, and get a good performance muffler.

get an original HKS/Tanabe/APEXi/Trust... no imitation please... they wont last on your turbo car.

my friend had stock GTI exhaust on his 4G93T GTI.... within 3 months after swap he already broke his turbo.... bad backpressure.

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post Jun 14 2006, 12:09 AM

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the best performance would be no muffler

but then again...the noise is unbearable, and it's against the law having damn noisy exhaust
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post Jun 23 2006, 11:34 PM

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well... you can actually install a custom ram pipe and add open pod K&N
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jun 24 2006, 08:21 AM)
HOw bout a drop in KNN filter for wira efi airbox? is there such a thing for sell in Miri?
Sparepart shops that carry genuine K&N filters might have them. I'm not sure which shop, but probably you can try ask Siong Fah (Krokop).

QUOTE(wayne @ Jul 2 2006, 10:14 PM)
hi, anyone know if Corona ST171 original extractor is ceramic coated? Mine looks cracked.What kind of effects does it caused if theres a crack? Mine has like vase/pot cracks.
Cracked extractor is dangerous if it leaks exhaust gas. Just imagine how hot the exhaust gas there.... and it may cause power loss as well.

If it's just minor crack lines then it probably still okay, but recommended to be replaced to avoid any unwanted problems later.
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QUOTE(blueray @ Jul 6 2006, 11:20 AM)
nice write by soulfly...gave me a good insight into mods. i m have just changed my air intake to apexi power intake and looking forward for more modifications.

i got some questions tho before i move forward :-

1) will replacing air filters and/or extractors affect the air fuel (AF) ratio of the car since AF ratio is oredi tuned for stock engine?

2) does this affect fuel injection engines? (i understand fuel injections have sensors to detect air volume from intakes & auto adjusts to condition)

3) after modifications such as changing air filter types or replacing extractors, is there a neccesity to retune the engine??

4) when is retuning of engine required / and in what conditions?

5) what are estimated costs for tuning an engine??

hope any guys can help answer my queries.

blueray
1) A/F ratio depends on ECU setting. Modification to the intake and exhaust might alter the A/F ratio but not that much, because ECU will re-learn the whole setup again. But then again... it depends on the ECU whether it's tuned based on a/f ratio only or it considers other reading as well.

For carb engine, it depends on the carb and engine setting.

2) For EFI system... the ECU will re-learn and adapt the new setup.

3) Not necessarily, but re-tuning with SAFC and wideband tuner could've been better.

4) Modification to the fuel system, like bigger injectors or such.

5) Proper wideband tuning sometimes cost around RM800-1k, depends on the tuner.... not including the gadgets that you install to tune your engine. Dyno tuning usually much more cheaper.

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QUOTE(x800 @ Jul 9 2006, 11:31 PM)
i ran on direct pipe for only a couple of days, then i installed a bullet...huyo ur fren uses 3 bullets..maybe i can try add one more too but $_$ sweat.gif thx for da advice smile.gif
I would say.... adding more than one bullet is idiotic. 3 bullet is.... shakehead.gif

Better spend on good muffler instead of adding too many bullets. Bullet restricts exhaust gas flow and installing too much of it is just a waste.

You get better performance/noise ratio with good muffler plus 1 bullet, compare to crappy imitation muffler with 3 bullet.

Loud exhaust (esp those N1 type like APEXi or 5Zigen) are originally meant for track usage, not road... that's why noise is not a concern.

QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jul 11 2006, 01:38 PM)
M from Miri, Sarawak.
For good workmanship... go to William Exhaust @ Kg.Wireless.

As for exhaust tuning (exhaust diameter, header type, mufflers etc.) you might wanna ask the experts.

Anyway.... you mentioned that you're driving a Wira 1.3 w/ mmc system... right?

You can remove the cat... no problem.

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post Jul 11 2006, 11:54 PM

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JASMA certified muffler are street legal in Japan and the noise is usually quite low.... unless the fiber inside already finish.
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post Aug 31 2006, 08:29 PM

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JASMA certified exhausts are those approved street legal in Japan, so the sound should be quite low.

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