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post Oct 20 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 20 2012, 01:08 PM)
Hahaha... I only slept two and half hour.
Woke up at 5:30am to bid this ring.
Glad it turned out well.  laugh.gif
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Wah.... finally u win bid spend alot energy bro, time to rest bro at nite v hunt the key again.....
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post Oct 20 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 20 2012, 12:14 PM)
Wah.... finally u win bid spend alot energy bro, time to rest bro at nite v hunt the key again.....
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By the way, try the mighty throw rune (169% damage + passive skill 10% damage).
I find this rune is very good.
My fury is full after 3 throws. Very fast fury generation. It's like infinite fury generation.
Very high damage too, avg 140-220K.
(p/s Mighty Throw rune makes me feel like playing Captain America. The flying axe is like the flying shield. Absolutely sexy! laugh.gif )

WWT is getting very interesting. It removes many bottlenecks of WW build.
Love it!!
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post Oct 20 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 20 2012, 03:42 PM)
By the way, try the mighty throw rune (169% damage + passive skill 10%  damage).
I find this rune is very good.
My fury is full after 3 throws. Very fast fury generation. It's like infinite fury generation.
Very high damage too, avg 140-220K.
(p/s Mighty Throw rune makes me feel like playing Captain America. The flying axe is like the flying shield. Absolutely sexy!  laugh.gif )

WWT is getting very interesting. It removes many bottlenecks of WW build.
Love it!!
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Maybe i wanna try it too. Currently using WW + rend which I feel kill mob even faster than the normal WW build.
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post Oct 20 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 20 2012, 04:42 PM)
By the way, try the mighty throw rune (169% damage + passive skill 10%  damage).
I find this rune is very good.
My fury is full after 3 throws. Very fast fury generation. It's like infinite fury generation.
Very high damage too, avg 140-220K.
(p/s Mighty Throw rune makes me feel like playing Captain America. The flying axe is like the flying shield. Absolutely sexy!  laugh.gif )

WWT is getting very interesting. It removes many bottlenecks of WW build.
Love it!!
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Yah if use 300spear add conditions dmg 34-47% per throw, but not include DPS number....

Sometime u need kite but u can atk every way very
useful for me also...if i gonna go pure ww I feel not comfortable like abit noob....

now my HF ring instead my skull grasp ring, so i need 5fury per throw lose abit IAS.. increase my DPS 5k....

I was test yesterday still on.... if u test just a throw one enemy u recharge fury abit slow... so need to be mighty throw 3 time really wil full n HP recover fast somemore.... this WWT build is multi killer ...

U r captain America bro.... lol... u will feel more fun
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post Oct 20 2012, 09:51 PM

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for who want to try weapon throw, i want to sell my old gear below.. offer me ok.. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 20 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 20 2012, 09:51 PM)
for who want to try weapon throw, i want to sell my old gear below.. offer me ok..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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got better gear or not interested in throwing anymore? oO

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post Oct 21 2012, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 20 2012, 09:51 PM)
for who want to try weapon throw, i want to sell my old gear below.. offer me ok..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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-7 fury is good enough for WWT build.
For those WW barbs who want try weapon throwing, these are the gears for you.

Wanna be Captain America? laugh.gif
(Use Mighty Weapon rune)
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:59 AM

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guys, should i buy Ice climber instead of IK Stride?

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post Oct 21 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(lepo @ Oct 21 2012, 10:59 AM)
guys, should i buy Ice climber instead of IK Stride?
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Get IK Stride if you plan to have other IK gears.
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post Oct 21 2012, 02:13 PM

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how do regen fury if goin wwt build, since you dont have primary skill to gain fury?
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 02:13 PM)
how do regen fury if goin wwt build, since you dont have primary skill to gain fury?
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From battle cry : into the fray, and passive skill : no escape . Noted : few hit can max out ur fury already with ricochet rune (weapon throw)
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:00 PM)
From battle cry : into the fray, and passive skill : no escape . Noted : few hit can max out ur fury already with ricochet rune (weapon throw)
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what bout loh and ls%?
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:01 PM)
what bout loh and ls%?
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I myself prefer life steal is becoz life steal can varied from time to time when u reach higher dps level , in patch 1.05 loh was reduce by 60% so i strongly not recommended for it . dual weil itself already with 15% extra att speed , of coz the higher the better becoz u can generate fury and life rapidly drool.gif

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post Oct 21 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:35 PM)
I myself prefer life steal is  becoz life steal can varied from time to time when  u reach higher dps level , in patch 1.05 loh was reduce by 60% so i strongly not recommended for it . dual weil  itself already with 15% extra att speed , of coz the higher the better becoz u can generate fury and life rapidly  drool.gif
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How bout LOH exceed 2000 ? Can ?
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post Oct 21 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Oct 21 2012, 04:41 PM)
How bout LOH exceed 2000 ? Can ?
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Yesterday i was tested wwt hybrid, since i had 1.4k LoH, 6%LS but my IAS just 1.65% i can say when ww spinning around elite i can down any time, cos not about movement spd or armor n AR all low, is an IAS slow when ww spinning.....

So yesterday i change my IAS 1.74% increase, but LoH just 880 v LS 6% killing elite ww spinning around recover my fury n HP more faster....

Means my opinion even u hav high LS n low LOH, but ur IAS high 1.7%above when go ww rune recover HP np... point is IAS must boost higher even LOH low still stand alive.....
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post Oct 21 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 02:13 PM)
how do regen fury if goin wwt build, since you dont have primary skill to gain fury?
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Just some additional info.

With the nerf in 105, you no longer can do war cry + battle rage.
You will not have enough fury to do that.

First of all, you need -fury gear.
IMO, I'd say -7 fury is the minimum requirement (this is a MUST!).

So, what you need to do in fury generation is.
1) You see monster
2) You war cry
3) Start throwing axes (make sure you hit the target)
4) Fury generation is almost immediate
(Note#1: Provided you have enough crit chance from your existing WW build. Crit chance gives you fury too)
(Note#2: You use the passive skill, No Escape)

Fury generation from weapon throw is way faster than bash/sprint (if you use Migthy Weapon rune).
Very fast attack and high damage.

Comparison of Rune. Just my findings (on my current build)
Mighty weapon. Faster/higher fury generation. For my case, 3 hits to restore my fury to full. Higher damage to a single target. Max damage per target is 240K.
Ricochet. Slower fury generation (but still decent rate). 5-6 hits to restore my fury to full. Lower damage but it can hit 3 targets (i.e. 100K damage x 3). More damage means more LS. Max damage per target is 160K.



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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:01 PM)
what bout loh and ls%?
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If you kiasi like what I am, you can have both LOH & LS.

FYI, I have 2560 LOH + 5.4% LS + 21546 Health globe. tongue.gif
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:02 PM

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ive tried WWT, not bad for fury generation.

amirana, if you dont mind, can i borrow ur skul grasp test test the effectivenes?its so hard 2 locate ring with -fury cost. im current running only on -3fury from belt. Didnt know that i hunted a belt tat has tat -fury stats on it lol.

and also, does the 300th spear %dmg stack on both hand? wonder if we can wield both 300spear together?
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 10:02 PM)
ive tried WWT, not bad for fury generation.

amirana, if you dont mind, can i borrow ur skul grasp test test the effectivenes?its so hard 2 locate ring with -fury cost. im current running only on -3fury from belt. Didnt know that i hunted a belt tat has tat -fury stats on it lol.

and also, does the 300th spear %dmg stack on both hand? wonder if we can wield both 300spear together?
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I never tried 2x300th spear. No sure whether it can stack or not.
Dual wield is certainly okay. You just lose 10% cc (if you're currently using axe/mace on your MH).
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post Oct 21 2012, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 21 2012, 10:09 PM)
I never tried 2x300th spear. No sure whether it can stack or not.
Dual wield is certainly okay. You just lose 10% cc (if you're currently using axe/mace on your MH).
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If play WWT , 300th spear is a must , u can try , let say u r dual wield ( without 300th spear will be abt 80k Dps, after using as off hand, throw dmg sure can exceed 110 k abv) ---> it will be more effective if u had Life Steal on ur gear.
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post Oct 21 2012, 11:20 PM

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did you guys use it as a main dmg dealer or use it jz to gain fury and hit range mobs?

atm, im using it to gain fury and use whirlwind as dmg source. am i doing it right?

and also not sure if can wield 2 same legend at a same time or not, i tink i recall that some1 mentioned that cant wield 2 same legend, however it can be done by using the legacy + the new legend.

how much AR after do i need to survive say mp5 n abv?

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