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 Working in Singapore V12, Yusheng - 23rd Feb (Saturday)

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crazy25kid
post Jan 5 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 5 2013, 12:27 AM)
in msia u gotta protect urself n family n belongings... crime rate increasing day by day..
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imo, this is actually a bad advise
u should live ur life fully aware of ur surroundings all the time and protect urself all the time...no matter the place u are have a high or low crime rate
because of the slack due to habit staying at a place with lower crime rate, u cannot adapt immediately and carelessness happens.
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post Jan 11 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(phenally @ Jan 11 2013, 12:06 PM)
Hello all sifu,
My employment pass application submitted is approved in principal.
I got the ep approval letter.

What do I have to do next?
I know i have to do medical checkup, and company dont have any panel doctor, so i can just go to any clinic and request for medical checkup for EP?

I do the medical checkup after i collect the EP or before?
and what about the short term travel pass ? I have to apply that?

Would appreciate it if someone can guide be on what to do or need to be done after the EP is approved.

Thank you.
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go to any medical center which provides pre-employment permit checkup (i recommend within sg)
keep the resit to claim from company later (i assume they will reimburse u)
u have to do it before making an appointment with MOM.
short term travel pass? the white card (embarkation form) will be good enuf.
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post Jan 13 2013, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Jan 11 2013, 11:58 PM)
Why? The objective is to lower the HDB selling price and the rental right?

It should be a good news for  first  self stay HDB purchase but bad news for speculator. 
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To be honest, I do not think the selling price will be lower, except for some specials cases
Such as, maybe in 4-5 months time when all those who have a HDB and other private properties have to sell it in time to meet the 6 months grace.
Or those owing ah long money.
Other than that, I do not think anyone will sell low.
So no supply, prices may go high....but on the other hand, the measures is also limiting the buyers, no demand. sweat.gif sweat.gif

rent may go up i think.
since for now, PR can no longer rent out the whole unit, so renting a whole unit legally (not including the lock 1 room case), supply has also dropped.
for PR families where a room is not sufficient, this may incur higher rent.

only good news for self stay if u are singaporean (well, the government should protect their own citizens), but not really for PR.
the extra 5% for the ABSD is going to be a pain
not sure if PRs hoping to buy a hdb for self stay is better to wait or still continue with the existing plan since this CM could be temporary as introduced before few years back

well, i am no property expert, just speculating
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post Jan 14 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 14 2013, 10:13 AM)
It's 20% downpayment (can wipe out all your ordinary account in CPF for this)
+ COV (10-40k)
+ ABSD (5%?)
+ Lawyer fees, miscellaneous fees, etc etc.
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i thought for downpayment, u can only pay up to 10 or was it 15% of the amount only with cpf.
the remaining 10 or 5% still needs to be in cash.
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post Jan 15 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(realventis @ Jan 15 2013, 05:01 PM)
Guys.. I'm sorry if this question were asked alot of times and if your guys thinked that I didn't do any homework by myself (actually I always follow this thread and jot down some important facts).
I hope that the seniors can help me by giving some valuable feedback.
Anyway here is my question:

1) I will be arriving in Singapore next month. My flight is scheduled to arrived in evening. Hence I need to find affordable accomodation which near with Jurong area. Anyone can help me to recommend cheap and comfortable hotel? I don't care if it is a backpackers or budget hotel since I will be staying for one night only. If possible please state the budget one shud expected to prepared for the accomodation.
2) Is it wise to change all the money to SGD before arriving at Singapore? Will I have some advantage if I exchange some of them in Malaysia and then leave the rest of it to be exchange in Singapore?
3) I will be totally cut off from the world outside since I will not have any Internet line or phone line at least one month (I planned to sign for Singtel maybe after I have my first month salary). I'm wondering is there any temporary Internet line sold at Singapore (something like prepaid sim card) so that I can keep in touch with my family? I know there is alot of cyber cafe in Singapore but i prefer to surf at home. FYI i am using ipad for the surfing purpose.

Thanks for reading my post. Hope to get some feedback soon. Cheers.
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1. No idea
2. I think it is better to change all, maybe can get better rate?
3. There are prepaid mobile which you can pay extra for 3G like 7SGD for 7 days (I really do not know the rate, please check telco websites). But when you convert to postpaid, the prepaid number cannot be ported over. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Jan 16 2013, 11:27 AM)
My points for housing in SG:
1) Start young when you still can take hardship and have lower expectation.

2) Rental is a big killer if you are paying it.

3) when you earn more, you will have the option of selling your small unit (which has better yield in market price) to buy a bigger unit.

4) Unless you are high earner, if you are PR and you dont use the CPF for HDB, you are not taking the advantage you have. factoring your monthly rental, the 4% CPF rate and the current market price on your HDB.

I didn't mislead anyone.

I am not sure about you. I came to SG due to the "PUSH" factor.

Is it any better to work in MY?
We can still live moderaly with financial freedom when we move back. I don't see a better chance of doing so for current fresh grad in MY.
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very good read for me as i am hoping to buy a hdb and the new CM is very disturbing for me as I am already trying hard to gather the lump sum then to be told i will have to fork out another extra 5% now. vmad.gif vmad.gif
agree very much with the rental part
if u are going to be here for some time, especially for couples who wish to start a family
i strongly suggest buying instead of renting.
why do u want to pay installment for others when u can pay for urself?
installments would not be a problem if you can pay rent...the only problem will be the start up lump sum, which can be recouped when u sell (property on an island usually won't go down in price)
some simple renovation will be enough as what you renovate now may not suit the future buyer hence making the renovation a waste.
painting like u mentioned can be done urself, albeit very tiring, but hey, u got some bonding time (i helped out painting my in-law's double storey back home...dam was it tiring)
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post Jan 16 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Jan 16 2013, 01:46 PM)
5%? take short term loan from relative and pay them monthly installment with interest slighly higher than their FD.

Some credit card now offer you low % credit loan for 6 months before higher rate kick in. You can take it at your own risk.

Just dont try your luck in sentosa.
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Too stingy to go casino.
Not a big fan (rather a big protester) of credit card loan either.
Already intending to take up a loan from parents and in-laws to fork up the lump sum...now feel a bit embarassed going to have to request for more blush.gif blush.gif
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post Jan 17 2013, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 17 2013, 09:27 AM)
Since you were renting from the main tenant, then the main tenant effectively IS your landlord. So this argument here is a little odd. Personally while I can understand that you wanna be difficult to get back at them for whatever perceived injustices they've done to you in the past, I don't see the point in getting so worked up about it when you've already moved out.
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agreed with being an @$$ as revenge part
bedbugs can also come from the unit above or the unit below.
it does not necessary originate from the room next door
and...i do not think they enjoy having bedbugs too.
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post Jan 17 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(stanum @ Jan 17 2013, 04:21 PM)
Hey guys,

I want to ask, im very noob at this. I received an offer to be working in sg with the salary SGD 5k, but im not sure whether it is good move from KL to SG, can i travel back to jhr everyday?  If i earn sgd5k, will they deduct anything And how much is the balance after deduct?

Apologize if my query is confusing.
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yes u can stay in johor and travel everyday if u dun mind the traffic at all.
there is no socso or PCB...CPF (singapore version of EPF) is only applicable if u are PR or Singaporean....so u get the full 5k (unless employer cpf is encashed to you then u get more than 5k)
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(stanum @ Jan 17 2013, 06:08 PM)
I see. Thanks for the opinion,

The office is in harbourfront, is it possible to travel back jhr everyday? How long the is the travel time from harbourfront to jb? smile.gif
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harbourfront is at the south of sg
it will take u a long time if u wanna travel to and fro from johor
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 18 2013, 09:51 AM)
I opened a DBS account no need initial deposit to open the account. But there is a $2 charge for each month if balance (can't remember if it's average or month-end balance. probably the former) drops below $1000.
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former...month average.

citibank does not need a deposit...that was abt 2 years ago, not sure if it is still the same
but do note that the amt to maintain and fine is a lot higher....2k to maintain, 10 for the fine
but u have 6 months buffer before that rule kicks in...and closing it before that also incurs a fine (no idea how much)
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post Jan 21 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(keelim @ Jan 21 2013, 08:53 AM)
Saving to buy own unit/condo will take half to a decade now and not “first few years”. I wonder how much have your plans been changed since stepping your foot on this red dot. The game plan is considerably different when you’ve children, and especially true if they have started their early childhood education in SG. You may not have the luxury to “retire” in dreamland given the circumstances that your children may feel isolated. The isolation factor grows as they grow. On the other hand, you may not want your children to follow the same education that you’ve experienced. Chicken and egg.
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then it will depend on long term planning...buying a home is never short term planning anyway.
if u wish to have your kids study on this red dot, whatever the CM comes up with, you will most likely not change your stand.
this is from my stand as a married guy who is planning of having kids and prefer not to let them go through the education system i went thru (well, mine was still okay, the ones after me had it worse).
i came here with future of my kids in mind instead of early retirement as the priority.
so for my case, plan remains the same, just there is now more obstacles which i have to overcome.
of course i would like to retire earlier if i can too. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jan 21 2013, 10:03 AM)
Which education is better? MY or SG? i not sure about SG, but i pretty sure that MY education still better when i was young, because i mastered 3 language, chinese, english and malay. now i also not sure if i have kids, where do i intend to let them start childhood education.
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well...there is that point of multiple languages, which can be dealt with extra curricular classes
there is a bigger concern if my kids were to study here...i dun wan them to grow up like the kids here (yeah, i know this sounds very "racist").
i prefer our street smart type of kids. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 22 2013, 12:05 AM

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i would rather not go postal votes
halfway back...very high possibility that our votes become their votes. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(APIITian @ Jan 22 2013, 03:01 AM)
I assume that you want to remain as PR and retire comfortably in MY.

question is, would you like your children to be a SG citizen?
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at this moment, i can definitely say no
in the future...i duno as that will depend on a lot of variables between now until then. laugh.gif laugh.gif
if my kids choose to be one...their choice.
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post Jan 25 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Jan 25 2013, 04:57 PM)
The only things that I would talk bad about Singaporean is that they take things for granted and other attitude that comes after it.

Anything else they're still well above average within Asia.
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agree with that.
and i noticed that some who worked here for some time tend to be like that too.
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post Jan 31 2013, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 31 2013, 01:43 AM)
I hope I can get!... But, that's not under my control... As u said, the 3k and above salary requested by freshgraduated should be those graduands from Singapore University. Others countries degrees seems like low paid.. I've 2 case to share with you.
1. My friend hold Master of Engineering and Bachelor Degree of Engineering from UK! He got 2 years plus experiences in engineering field at KL. He got an offer as engineer from MNC in SG!... His salary is below 3K SGD with EP!... He feels happy with the offered coz the engineering job that he worked in KL is much more low piad in MYR compared to his current job in SG!... He is working in SG 2year alerady!...
2. Another friend hold bachelor degree from public university M'sia with 10 years experiences at KL (5 years relevant experiences to the job she applied and another 5 years from others industries)! She only got below 2K SGD job offered in SG!...  She rejected the offer and continue to work in KL!...

Is that all the Oils and Gas jobs in SG is very high pay, high bonuses and good remunerations packages?
Oh... I worked in Banking before!... I dislike the job!... I found out General banking experiences is only applicable to jump within the same banking line! Because banking skills really cannot apply to others jobs! Unless, yours from investment banking/ forex/ financial consultant/ banking sales jobs! That's why I jump out from banking and do not want to apply banking job anymore!...
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if ur frens wanna shortchange themselves, it is up to them.
master with 2 years exp, below 3k....degree with 10 years exp albeit 5 years relevant with a less than 2k job....this is what we call market spoiler.
u are killing your own market.
how the hell do you justify 10 years...heck, lets say 5 years exp with less than 2k salary
even if a starting pay of 1.6k (for fresh grad) and 100 bux increment for 5 years...one would have exceeded 2k and heck, that can already be considered a worst case scenario.
i am sorry to say this, but your fren(s) is/are dumb and do not how to value themselves or they are not very good frens who are lying to you.
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post Jan 31 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jan 31 2013, 02:42 PM)
S$2500++ will fully pay the monthly instalment for a 30 year $800K bank loan... meaning that you have purchased a $1 million property with 20% downpayment... (ok, ok maths a little different now with the cooling measures but for first timer, you're more or less there... give or take ~5%).

Might as well put that 2.5K towards an instalment rather than rental. If you need to leave Singapore before the 30 year loan expires, AND you don't want to keep the property for rental... you can sell it to get the capital gain.
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logically, very true
practically, not easy to achieve...initial payment is not any hurdle u can just walk thru...it takes time if you have have not been here that long.
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post Jan 31 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 31 2013, 05:18 PM)
They are my trusted friends. That's truth... As both of them wanted to work in sg and they find sg jobs quite long time edi... That's the fact, Master of Engineer from UK also got low paid!... haha... U also know they will only offer 1.6K- 1.8K SGD to M'sian dont care of you're Overseas/ Public / Private University freshgraduated in M'sia? That's very truth!

For 2nd scenario, Maybe, she feel like get bully by the employer with the cheap paid! That's why she didn't accept the offer and continue to work in KL!... Is that their offer the salary to M'sian without SG working experiences is after convert to MYR? For example, they offer you 2K SGD X 2.40 (Exchange rate)= 4800 MYR!... And, they don't think of you can get 4.8K in KL!...
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first, i did not agree with fresh grad will be getting 1.6k only
i said it is the worst case scenario in my terms if you are joining a MNC.
all companies will definitely try to offer u a lower pay, it is the simplest way to reduce cost.
but your version of lower pay is absurd.

i can tell you that i know of NONE among my frens being shortchanged when they come to work in SG after leaving their job back in M'sia.
in fact, most are better off in terms of savings before conversion.

if you enjoy being the pessimist and only trust your frens who were unlucky or did not do well in the interview or both or something else, when a lot of ppl here are telling u a totally different story, then my advice is for you to give up and continue working back home and forget sg.


QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 31 2013, 05:30 PM)
Maybe, it is because of their 1st job offer in sg! And, they don't really know what is the "Reasonable salaries" should get in SG!... That's truth... Quite many M'sian are bottom feeders but not all lah!... So, what is ur salary range in SG?
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ah...now i understand.
so whose fault is that if u never do your homework?
they never checked how much they are worth.
now, you are doing the exact same thing and worse, relying on inaccurate information based on people who never do their homework.
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post Jan 31 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 31 2013, 06:19 PM)
So, why they returned back to work in M'sia? What jobs they are current working in M'sia?
erm...who went back?
i said they left m'sia to come sg and were not shortchanged. sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 31 2013, 06:19 PM)
How do you know they didn't do well for their interviews? As u said, all companies try to offer you a lower pay!... I think you also know the reason right? The salary report is based on the research. They are selected sampling to study and not include all population!... And, the salary report that you mentioned is based on the position for all singaporean and foreigners!... Of course, they have gone through the salary report and they don't think that's accurate information!... I'm not doing exact the same thing like them. Now, I prefer to know the real life experiences from yours...
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i said OR...i do not know how they did for their interview. doh.gif doh.gif
i am making guesses based on the amount they were offered (accepted or not i also duno) vs the amount ppl i know are earning.
i nvr said the salary report is accurate...if based on the salary report alone, i am earning too low.
the only low salary i was "offered" was by ONE single agency (which i did not even bother remembering the name) asking me to reduce my expected salary by 50% or they are unable to find me any jobs.
i politely declined and continued searching and here i am now for 2 years+ and i got what i written in my resume when i was offered my first job in SG,
even from the job ads which i see that mentioned the salary range back when i was applying, they are not as low as your description...yes, some were lower than my expected written in my resume as i hiked it up for buffer when company tries to nego, but still within reasonable range of my expected.

my experience?
maybe i was very much underpaid back home and i got a 30% increase in number when i came here...oh, my wife too.
my ex-housemate as a fresh grad had less 100 compare to his pay back home (he worked there for less than 6 months so i consider that freshie)


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