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PC Audio Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V5, Comparison and Advice

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post Mar 11 2014, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 11 2014, 12:30 PM)
of course r1900 la biggrin.gif the speaker got use special material on diaphragm.
quite a good buy at rm300+
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No wonder R1900Tiii better than Hivi 1010 iv. 5" vs 4" bass. How about D 1080 V? With 5.35 inch bass driver. Have you compare these two? But, Edifier offer cheaper price for almost similar spec. Not sure the sound tho.

QUOTE(Edifier @ Mar 11 2014, 11:34 AM)
The recommended selling price is RM339.
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Thank you... biggrin.gif BTW, why so hard to get Edifier at Miri and Kuching? The most high end is C3. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 27 2014, 11:37 AM)
so overall, how you rate 1900t3?

I am also 'feel guilty' when wanna buy speaker more than 500... haha...

I am also looking for speaker to replace my RM26 logitech speaker...

at first, i am looking for

1. Edifier C3 (err... maybe that shop don't know how to 'set' the speaker... it's better than my Rm26 little bit.... rclxub.gif )
2. Edifier E25 (sexy in red... brows.gif but that time selling is RM699, and need order...)
3. Edifier S530D (my local store no selling, need order as well and exclude shipping yet....)
4. Edifier R2500/2700/2800 (tooooo big.... my darling wanna kill me already...btw...i got chance to test the R2700....SO disappointed... voice packed by plastic bag???)
5. Hivi 1010, 1080, M50W, MK2..... (almost paste order for M50W/1080-4,...but...say if lost or damage....no insure....  .. so if i really go for these guys... ask my friend bring back to me)
6. Thonet & Vander - Kugel .... also almost order already... (btw...my little angel ask me hold on.... )
7. ....finally right now look at Edifier R1280T, R1900T3.... (guilty + ... )

if R1900T3 really good enough...then just go for this guy...
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I think out of 5, I will rate 3. Actually it's 4 but due to some misunderstanding, I paid about RM500 for this speaker including shipping to Miri. And this is the main reason feel guilty is because IMO, over RM500 I will opt for hifi speaker. I know others will not agree. I won't describe too much about R1900Tiii because I just received her yesterday, so I think not yet fully burn in. For conclusion, R1900Tiii is good enough for me. The bass is on the same level with my ear, rather than placing subwoofer below desk. And since I venture into headfi, I spend less time for gaming so I appreciate accurate tight bass more than a house shaking powerful bass. In other word, my ear being picky so, gaming headphone and speaker suddenly sound bad. BTW, I'm powering this lady from my UD100.

I listened to C3 previously in a PC shop and I would get this if I can turn back time because it's way cheaper than SP2500. However the bass not as rumbling as Logitech Z623 which I dislike. C3 excellent in midrange but a bit bright and thin when compared to my SP2500. C3 excellent in music more than gaming and movie, and best bang for buck. But I admit, when watching movie or playing game, extra boom form the sub is a good thing. My testing source is phone and DAP along with improper set up and placement. What I like about C3 is appropriate price, medium size sub, and the best clarity within similar price or level for speakers that I ever heard.

Corsair SP2500 however better in gaming and movie due to the bigger sub and warmer sound from the satellite. I will say better treble than C3 but the speaker sub damn huge. laugh.gif About 20kg total man! Served me well when I gaming a lot last time, and sound more 3D like which make me confuse of the sound source, either it's my game or movie, or the noise from outside my house. Source is UD100. Another good thing about Corsair is the satellite doesn't distort or breaking when you blast it. I did once tried to max the volume but unlike other cheap speaker that I tried, I afraid that I will damage the tweeter etc. And, got a lot of EQ and program on the control pod. I know you're not interested but just sharing. biggrin.gif

E25, I don't mean to look down the speaker but from most what I read, 4" driver often not enough power for bass. I like the size factor and the design but, as for me it's the bluetooth and wireless function that make the speaker pricey. I never try this speaker yet but just my 2 cent. Judging from Harman Kardon soundstick iii wired vs wireless version. I may be wrong so it's up to your ears to decide mate. Always listen if you can. As for me, I fully depend on review, and luck. Please share with us if you got the chance to try this sexy lady.

I'm surprised you say R2700 disappointed you because my judgement is they might be tad below R2800. My initial plan is to get R2800 but they're over my budget and too large for my desk. If your darling kill you for buying large speaker, tell her speaker is like butt or boobs. Hahaha... M50W, I think on par with my SP2500 but a bit better midrange than my SP2500. Sound thinner but less harsh, the bass is more tight but not really powerful. But, I hate the placement of the bass adjuster which is at the sub. And I will place the sub below my desk, and I'm the type that often change the treble and bass position according to the music type and mood. Some say better than SP2500, some say the other. biggrin.gif

If you read at this thread, someone claim R1900Tiii better than D1010. Perhaps due to the bigger driver size, 4" vs 5". For D1080, the main reason I don't buy them because over my budget as I told previously. Plus, I believe wood body often better than PVC body in sound business. R1900Tiii are much heavier than D1080v. Well, keep in mind wood or heavy size doesn't make R1900Tiii is better than D1080v. This is just my judgement. Sometime, light speaker with PVC casing will sound better than poor technology speaker with cheap wood material. So, I hope you can help me to clear the puzzle too because I want to try D1080v if I was given chance. And I think D1080v better than R1900Tiii, only the price turn me down. But R1900Tiii only RM400 max. If your interested with D1080v, I suggest you PM Alex05187. biggrin.gif

Hornet and Thunder, tongue.gif I never heard this brand before so I have no comment. Judging from Amazon price, over RM1k mate. sweat.gif I will hunt for cheap amp and DAC deal, and get hifi speaker. Perhaps Dali Zensor 1? Or Get NAD D 3020 + Dali Zensor 1, within Rm3k price but I doubt you will face similar experience with desktop speaker line up. I don't know what is your favorite sound etc and where is your location. And I never heard most of the speaker that you mentioned before but I will say, go get R1900Tiii for music. and Edifier C3 if you want moar bass. These two recommendation based on feeling guilty for spending over RM500 for a multimedia speaker. laugh.gif For hifi deal, kindly consult this venomancer, Sentinel92. And for R1900Tiii with cheapest shipping, go PM hikari. wink.gif I regret that I didn't get from her. Don't hesitate to PM me if you want to ask something.

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QUOTE(andykok @ Mar 27 2014, 05:44 PM)
Hi everyone, i would like to upgrade my sound card , but i don know where to go... 

so, i hope that you guys can provide me some of your professional suggestions. 
my current sound card is - creative sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio

my budget is - below RM 700...

my speaker is - Altec Lansing MX 5021

go for asus or creative ?

thank you in advance
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Hi, I just wondering why you want to upgrade your sound card? IMO, the most important thing is the speaker it self. RM 700 can get you better and newer speaker.

QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 27 2014, 02:02 PM)
I really love forum that always have kaki to sharing experience, explaination, suggestion....

For myself, i set the budget not exceeded RM800. But sometimes when read great and cool review, and 'found' that i probably can get this ...(like car, always compare and get higher and higher spec... haha)

Well, for E25, i also no chance yet to test and play on it. Just read from review and source from youtube. Look sexy but no cheap, ya..not cheap.

For R2700T, i am guessing that pc shop could be just open the box and took out the speaker set and put it there. Maybe not even burn-in. So that why the sound performance very jialat! My darling do not know speakers, but when she listened, she told me she won't agree to get this speaker, so lousy, big and 'expensive'. haha!

I may have no chance to test the D1080-4 since i am not stay and living in KL area. That's why if i really wanna go to this guy, really need my friend helps to bring it back to me. But if any RMA, i am surely  rclxub.gif ....

Btw, i do had my 'old' set of hifi system. May I just get DAC/amp and connect 2 rear speaker (become my left and right speaker) and connect to my computer?

I do not have any sound card yet. Previously keep thinking to grab Asus Xonar STX....
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I'm not a kaki, just a fan. Hehe... And still new to this kind of thing too. For postage at malaya, I dare to say damn cheap if compared with postage to Borneo island. doh.gif So if I were you, I don't really mind postage because from what most seller quote me, likely RM30 for 20kg and below.

And what speaker is that which you want to salvage? Where's your old amp etc?
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QUOTE(andykok @ Mar 27 2014, 07:14 PM)
because i feel that a better sound card can result in better sound quality coming out from my speaker ( maybe i m wrong, please correct me).

if i change better speaker, i have to spend more money, because i need to buy a new one + better sound card right?  since better speaker should have a good sound card to pair with , am i right ?

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Hi mate,

Well you are right but... I don't know how to tell you. sweat.gif All I can say is usually improvement for upgrading source (DAC) will not be significant as getting better speaker.

How much is the sound improvement you expect buddy? If I were you, I just will recycle the sound card and get a better speaker. I just use UD100 or Aune T1 DAC for my all speakers. Compared to my stock soundcard, they indeed better but they're not significant like changing speaker.

My speakers path:
Sensonic F7> Corsair SP2500> R1900Tiii

And of course each newer path are better than previous path, according to my ear and needs.
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QUOTE(andykok @ Mar 27 2014, 10:28 PM)
alright, i got your point ady ~ better to upgrade speaker than sound card, since the improvement u can get from the money spent on speaker is more identifiable than sound card..

thank you for your input.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  u r so pro dude .
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Yes man, I glad that you realize that I'm a pro. ProBLEM. laugh.gif This is common sense. Sometime I forgot about this kind of thing too.
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post Mar 28 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 28 2014, 08:30 AM)
Probably i might get Edifier R1900T3 + external USB DAC... i guessing the total cost closed to D1080-4.. hmm.gif
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Ai mate! I was hoping you can get D1080v. laugh.gif Anyway, what USB DAC that you're going to get?
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QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:26 AM)
heard that Musiland 02 or 03 USD pretty good.... but i think need to get from china.

02 cost rm300+
03 cost rm4-500

btw, any recommend?

want me to get d1080-4 meh  hmm.gif
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Never tried and heard that DAC before man. But a lot of China DAC got potential but got issue with QC. sweat.gif I can't recommend. Haha... Me just use cheap DAC. biggrin.gif Why don't re-use that old sound card first. Spend more on speaker first. Well, people so confident over D1080v, so want to hear your thoughts too. And share with us. biggrin.gif But I hope you compare with R1900Tiii.
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QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 28 2014, 03:30 PM)
I got no sound card at all  tongue.gif (my ex sound card more than 10 yrs alrdy!)

So right now always use on-board one.

A lot of reviews said 1080-4 great and better. But got one issue which was the heatsink very very hot.

I think i can't compare which i am not able to get R1900T3 on my local.
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I can't read Chinese, I'm cheapskate so I get whichever cheaper. This is for my bedroom only. For living room I got a better speaker. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 28 2014, 05:40 PM)
so..go for edifier 1900t3 enough already. haha... actually just use for replacement...no matter how still far far better than my RM26 speaker... rclxms.gif
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doh.gif Hahaha... Just try first. Tak suka can sell. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bccheong77 @ Mar 28 2014, 09:56 PM)
try!!! blush.gif

my wife already asked me to grab RM200 no-brand name speaker will do.... rclxub.gif

especially when i said wanna grab speaker about rm5xx.....  vmad.gif
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This is how I answer my wife, "If I buy xxx speaker that which doesn't have reputation, it's similar to marrying a woman that doesn't know how to cook." If you dare, answer her like that. laugh.gif

I did, and yes I'm still upgrading. biggrin.gif wink.gif Take the risk on your own mate.
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QUOTE(GroundMan @ Mar 29 2014, 12:47 PM)
ive read and narrow down my choices to these 2 speakers. which one is more suitable to my needs?

Swan M50W or Corsair 2500SP

ill be using mainly for games followed by movies. currently using Edifier M3300, serving me well for the past 7 years biggrin.gif
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I will vote SP 2500. Posted few elaborations in this thread why I choose over SP 2500. But now, there's no way I will go back to 2.1 due to my ear needs; music.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 29 2014, 11:36 PM)
i dont mind xxx speaker or dont know cook.
single now... Any recommendation for wife? Lol
take corsair 2500
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laugh.gif That one need new forum. Anyway, I was going to recommend him M50w, but he said movie and gaming etc. While M50w is more to music. My gaming and movie era already end. cry.gif
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QUOTE(arslow @ Mar 30 2014, 12:19 AM)
so you only watch movie in cinema now?? or non at all? For me, I dont go cinema anymore lol. These swan setup satisfy my audio craving while watching DTS movies tongue.gif
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I watch with headphone or anything in front of me. Haha... And yep cinema, old school guy bah... I listen music more than the time I spend for movie so music more important. Last time used to spent time more on game and movie. Anyway, I missed my SP 2500 bass. cry.gif The rumbling, fuh! With your kind of setup of course can enjoy movie. cry.gif
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QUOTE(arslow @ Mar 30 2014, 12:42 AM)
ah, I see. your head fi setup on your sig way better than mine sweat.gif I only have a JVC FXT 90 lol. Feels more than enough ready for  my portable needs. Somehow not so picky for portable audio.

Question, with your SP2500, have you ever heard the subwoofer rattling? I rmb when I had it last time, when the scene/music has REALLY DEEP bass, can hear lots of wind sound on the sub, really kills the moment. But I definitely miss it too, the trebles were really good, sometimes feels like its better than my H4 lol. And of course, the control pod. Now so hard to change volume sweat.gif
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Yup, for portable jani ada saja ma... biggrin.gif

What you mean rattling? I never have this issue. But key and coin rattling, yep. Haha... You mean hollow sound? What music is that? I never have this issue. The only problem I faced is the bass is large in quantity but not enough impact. I like tight and powerful bass which is important to my ears for music. While SP 2500 got this powerful but loose bass which is good for cinema like bass. And now my R1900Tiii, need to extend my hand to adjust the volume. laugh.gif

Anyway, why changed?
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QUOTE(arslow @ Mar 30 2014, 01:00 AM)
Hmm, maybe mine was an early unit(bought on April 2011, reviews were coming in as I pressed F5 on google chrome that time, so it was barely available that time lol) so maybe its an early batch issue. Why I changed? because three weeks before the warranty ended, it spoiled. Couldn't hear anything unless I maxed out the volume, and even then it sounded worse than my phone speaker lol. Sent it back for warranty, but got a new set instead! So without thinking, I just sold it off and got these babies as I got poisoned by it during the three weeks wait lol, and no regrets at all!!

Have got to go hear the M50W since a few of you prefer the SP2500 rather than it hmm.gif I'm biased towards the M50W only because of what I currently have lol, so nowadays I tend to not give advices to ppl who are confused between the SP2500 and M50W tongue.gif
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Corsair service really good. biggrin.gif Mine is rarely used since electric only available for few hours. sweat.gif

Sound wise, for music M50w wins. But for movie, gaming, functionality, SP 2500 win. Each speaker got their own character, pro and con. I tested M50w in uncontrolled setup. Maybe M50w is better than SP 2500, but not as much SP 2500 better than my RM 199 speaker. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Jul 10 2014, 10:05 AM)
Yes, with an entry-level budget. I know the vinyl phenomenon can cost a bomb.
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My setup is PC hifi but honestly, I think CD or vinyl is the right path of hifi if:
- Doesn't use playlist a lot
- You only listened to one artist at a time
- You only listen to one album at a time
- You're not moving anytime

As for me, I use playlist a lot, and I dislike the idea of change my CD when I want to listen to next singer, and the most important, I hate the idea of moving out in few years, along with fragile CD player or turntable.

And, do contact Sentinel92 for more deal, he will offer you something good, but prepare your wallet. And, all I can say best price I can find. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Jul 10 2014, 10:41 AM)
Thanks for the feedback mate. But it's too late for me to go off the vinyl path, because I'm actually a vinyl addict by nature. Been collecting hundreds of records, and everywhere I go off travel, I will definitely check out the local vinyl scene. I have my own set up at home, but I'm actually staying in my university now, so I kinda need a second set up.

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Oh and, I'm a digital music junkie as well. I have loaded a TB of music on my MBP to bring it with me where ever, whenever I go.
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Well, I do plan to go vinyl after I moved out from my current shitty workplace. Transporting my PC etc is very risky. Thus I avoid vinyl and CD for now. Maybe next year I will change to the path of black record. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Jul 10 2014, 11:01 AM)
You're most welcome to join the dark side, bro. But please, beware, it comes with a price. It's pretty much an expensive hobby tongue.gif cool.gif
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The first step by posting in audiophile thread is our first step to the dark side. Haha... Yeah, but I can't describe the feeling of holding Eric Clapton, Crossroad vinyl in my hand. It's large, thick and heavy. Plus, hifi setup looks better with turntable.
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QUOTE(kaidorick @ Jul 19 2014, 12:20 PM)
hi,
i am planning to buy a Harman Kardon Soundstick 3
just wondering how the base is compared to logitech z623?
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Very very different. HKSi iii is better sounding to my ear. But again, I don't like both.

QUOTE(shimin1214 @ Jul 24 2014, 07:46 PM)
hi senior, i m confusing between edifier s530d and r2600,any advise for these two speaker?
my usage is music (60%) and hd movie (40%).
thanks~
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If ya a bass head, better get S530D. But for me, I will never look back at 2.1 after I listened from 2.0 setup. wink.gif

QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Jul 2 2014, 12:49 PM)
guys need advice.

which one is good for music

r1900 iii, r2000t, r2500- studio 5?
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R1900Tiii... Loving it, but can't keep it. sad.gif

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