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cherroy
post Jun 2 2016, 02:17 PM

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Anyone has Ascendas reit?

Yield looks attractive with quite diversified portfolio.
Thinking getting some.
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post Jun 2 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 2 2016, 06:54 PM)
Just xD a few weeks ago. RM-SGD just breached 3 (if you are converting from RM to buy). Fed potentially raise rates June/July

No hurry to buy
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Yup, no hurry, especially with Fed is expected to hike rate, which is a negative factor for reit, as well as rental market in Sg is not that good recently.
Even malls are facing risk of vacant lots as reported in some major financial news.

Just in the midst find out more about the reit.

Exchange rate doesn't bother me too much on this matter, as it acts as diversification.
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post Jun 3 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 3 2016, 08:52 AM)
Question is what will MAS do IF the Feds raise the rates?
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I don't think MAS need to react to the rate hike.

After all, MAS also doesn't want to see a too strong Sgd, as its latest monetory policy on Sgd is neutral.

There is no incentive for MAS to follow Fed to raise rate, unless Sg economy is growing at robust rate, which is not currently.

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post Jun 3 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 3 2016, 09:46 AM)
The whole market is reactive to news, despite the fundamental is otherwise. Even if MAS does not raise rates, the share price will react to news.

Some Reits has majority fixed rates loan, but they will not be spared for those kind of news too

So my guess is even if MAS does nothing, the share price will react negatively when FED raise rates
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Cost of funding of USD may rise with the rate hike.
So the one rely heavily on USD funding may see higher expenses on the borrowing cost.

This is where US rising rate could impact reit sector.
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post Jun 16 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 16 2016, 03:59 PM)
if still looking for something to buy, consider keppel dc.

this one is my star performer - solid steady while others waver. tongue.gif

but.. if buying with rm->sgd, not a good time.

rm declining season again; rate today 3.0675/2.9975, bank spreads seem getting wider these days...?
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Volatility in the financial market, specifically in forex market may prompt banks to widen the spread to "protect" their interest.
As their published exchange rate may not be updated fast enough to catch the spot market if swing is too big.
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post Jun 24 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 24 2016, 07:00 PM)
for those doing sgd-rm, be advised the spread has gone crazy.

don't really know if it's due to the high volatility or some new bnm method of doing fx rates.

today cimb closing: sgd buying 3.0825, selling 2.9645.

spread = 3.9%. ohmy.gif
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Today forex is extremely volatile, no surprise to see banks widen their spread to mitigate their risk.
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post Jun 25 2016, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 24 2016, 10:37 PM)
are u seeing the same in other banks?

and why is usd is not the case?

should be even more so, no?

4.1345/4.0645. spread = 1.7%.

been like that for sgd for some weeks now.

i asked the bank, they just say, "it's like that".  dry.gif
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If you asked ordinary cashier/officer in banks branches, generally they do not know one.

Those spread/rate is provided by HQ, they just "follow", and "is like that one". biggrin.gif

One can take advantage of current volatility to enter for DCI, to buy Sgd at spot rate, instead based on board rate.

My local brokers/investment banks said they do accept payment in Sgd through TT transfer.
So far I have not experience using this route yet.

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post Jun 27 2016, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 27 2016, 02:22 PM)
interesting to see sgreits recovered well today!

capmall, capcomm excellent recovery.

looking at the relatively small usd/sgd movement subsequent to brexit fallout, probably sgd bonds and reits a reasonable safe haven. tongue.gif
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Make no sense for reit to up so drastically, Capitalmall reit from 1.96 last Friday, today 2.08.
Reit also can play contra and make decent gain!

The only explanation is bond yield dropped severely, which make reit yield become attractive,
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post Jul 4 2016, 02:00 PM

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Sreit is having a decent rally across after Brexit.

It turns out Brexit is positive factor for Sreit.


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post Jul 5 2016, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Jul 4 2016, 05:56 PM)
Just feel that keppel dc reit is trading too high of a premium to its NAV... It is about 30% more than its NAV now and yields less than 6%...
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May be some "hype" on DC, which is new to the reit market, and DC becomes very important asset in today internet age.
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post Jul 27 2016, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 27 2016, 11:45 AM)
i looking looking only...
still hesitated

saw its price below BOOK VALUE...

but then book value depends on valuation.. and its subjective right?
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Book value may mean nothing if properties are not being liquidated at book value or leased to generate good income.

There are plenty of ordinary stocks, typically property stock in Malaysia are trading at 0.5~0.8 book value (before revaluation as well).
So if merely look at book value, those property stocks are even "cheaper" in valuation.


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post Aug 1 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 1 2016, 11:26 AM)
suntec back to 1.71. biggrin.gif

capitamall back to 2.16.

it doesn't look like sgreits will fall that much for now as global markets are still strong.

but at current prices, hard to buy more.
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Unless Fed decided to raise rate. biggrin.gif

Last dip in reit price was when Fed become hawkish time.

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post Nov 10 2016, 09:55 AM

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Watch out Treasuries movement, 10 years shoot beyond 2% last night, if yield continues to creep higher, it might put a pressure on reit globally.
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post Nov 10 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 10 2016, 12:24 PM)
yup.. noticed that too... some pretty drastic jump.. made headline in CNBC
trump isn't even in office yet.. investors risk appetite up so much already ?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/donald-trum...he-economy.html
on paper his policies are pro-growth... but where will the funds come from ? borrowings also right ? tongue.gif tongue.gif
means interest rate will stay low... US debt will continue to grow ?? asset price inflation to continue ? then die lorr....  cry.gif  cry.gif

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/donald-trum...-next-move.html
another interesting topic is.. janet yellen's term ends in 2018.. trump doesn't really agree to her policies...
maybe we'll have a new Fed Governor in by march 2018...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

hopefully the jump in tresury yield is something positive, aka more risk taking and nothing fishy...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
been holding quite some reits.. coz the mkt has been sooooooo "exciting"...
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Pro-growth by borrowing --> inflation.
Inflation? Fed needs to raise rate, if not currency value plummeting.

Remember when Fed slow to react (raise rate too slow and not enough) on inflation prior before 2007 financial crisis?
USD was being labelled worthless at that time, and dropped against almost all currencies (USD vs RM was 3.2), and fueled the property bubble that eventually causing 2000 financial crisis which nearly brought down the financial market.

That's why treasuries yield surging after the DT won the president, and now is approaching 2.1% for 10 years.

If treasuries yield keep on going higher, reit needs to have higher yield to attract investors.
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post Dec 4 2016, 12:08 PM

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Door is not closing.

Investors are still able to invest abroad,
using borrowing money one, subjected to 1 mil cap,
no borrowing no limit.

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post Dec 15 2016, 07:39 AM

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Expect some sell off in reit across.

3 rate hike forecast for next year is slightly above market expectation.

Having said that, last time many also said there might be 2 hike in 2016, but only happening once in 2016, and only at the end of 2016.
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post Dec 15 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 15 2016, 02:09 PM)
YES, bro,... I have noticed this since a few weeks ago,... The spread is very wide now, which makes it non-viable to change BACK TO THE RM if one needs to use RM. The spread will cause him to lose many pips, hence, wiping out whatever he made from the exchange rate against what he used to convert over from the RM earlier.

What do you think the reasons could be for this widening, besides the bank wanting to make more ?
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Banks normally widen the spread when forex market is volatile to protect their interest.
A big swing in forex market, can result them into unfavourable situation, as they can't possible update the rate every min or hour.

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post Dec 16 2016, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 16 2016, 11:31 AM)
hans, any comment on above?

today, i see SGD/RM spread 2.11%, USD/RM spread 0.625%.

the SGD/RM spread is ridiculous.

now exploring if it makes sense to do sgd/usd, then usd/rm.

i am inclined to agree with this bloomberg view that MAS will ease the SGD in the coming months.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...low-amid-easing
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Easing bias will be positive factor for Sgreit.


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post Dec 16 2016, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 16 2016, 01:54 PM)
thanks, good to know.

that sg money changer spread is only 1%, normal.

the money changer i checked here 2 days ago had about 1.5% spread.

it definitely bad here, banks are the worst.

the banks are making a killing with the spread.
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Can use DCI route, take the spot rate for 1 week.
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post Dec 23 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 23 2016, 10:24 AM)
what is PB 1?
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Price to Book ratio 1

Aka you buy the share at its NAV.

CMT is quite attractive now with yield more than 5.5%.

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