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post Aug 5 2021, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 5 2021, 09:48 AM)
The ESR seems to be a predator.

ARA Logos rejected their advances recently. Before that they were after Sabana, which takeover failed.
Now they are probably looking at a BACKDOOR manipulation of the ARA company by taking over the manager first.  ranting.gif
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I have noticed you use ranting.gif and mad.gif emojis quite often recently. I hope you are ok. Don't get angry too much, not bad for health...

As for the readers, prophetful's reaction somehow demonstrated the risk of investing in small-caps. tongue.gif You may end up like mad.gif or ranting.gif

So be careful. laugh.gif
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post Aug 5 2021, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 5 2021, 11:16 AM)
Small caps enable me to realise substantial capital gains. For eg ARA Logos, and Utd Hamp. 
But some do not move as much.
I just hate it when my Reits are being privatised so often eg Accordia, Soilbuild, Viva
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Can't blame them. They want to gain market power, so one absorbed into another. Addition into indices also enhance liquidity, so in the end good for you as an investor as well.

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post Aug 5 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 5 2021, 11:23 AM)
Depends what is your strategy of investment.
REITs to me presents a cashflow opportunity. I am not exactly aiming for capital gains and then vanish. i have been in this since 2008/09 and have seen the power of recurring cash flow.

Losing the REITs means that your cashflow is turned off.

It is not so easy to spot good REITs nowadays as in 08/09. 
Big caps payout is too meagre at 4 to 5%. At least for me.
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Ya true, really depends on investor's objective. I bought during deep fall like last year, can get 6% yield for Ascendas and CICT. Ok for me, but perhaps not enough for you.

Meagre but at least I don't have to mad.gif or ranting.gif

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I value stability and corporate governance too. GLC sponsors still ok but others can get into trouble with the CAD. (Think EC World)


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post Aug 5 2021, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 5 2021, 11:36 AM)
It is not EC world which was in trouble with the CAD. It was the CIO and it was not his time with EC World in which he was being investigated. 

On the big caps, the opportunities to buy is few and far in between. So what do you do with your investment cash?
In terms of buying at the drop, for eg i  got into IREIT at 40+, EC world at 50+, Elite at 50+, Utd Hamp at 50+.
So they were really good bargains then.
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Aware of that, but that EC World still hire him really puzzled me back then. Some vetting should have been in place.

Same like you, but I went into large caps instead, I am not comfortable with the refinancing risk of small caps. I went in a bit late, Ascendas at 2.88, CICT at 1.82, KDC at 2.29, Parkway LIFE at 3.19. Now they yield 4-6% for me, about 100 basis point above current market yield.

Small-caps tend to drop lower and rise quicker then mid/large-caps so your bargain certainly worth it, but the risk is also much higher during the downturn, compared to large caps.

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post Aug 6 2021, 06:45 PM

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post Aug 6 2021, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Aug 6 2021, 09:58 PM)
IREIT, ascendas, the "affect" u mentioned has been long last since last year March but it is already recovering
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Hospitality and too some extent retail still impacted in some way. Industrial, DC, Healthcare, Logistics no issues.
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QUOTE(edwin1002 @ Aug 6 2021, 11:55 PM)
what reits in your portfolio? Mind to share?
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2 large-caps and 2 mid/large-caps (current holdings).

Ascendas REIT
CICT
Keppel DC REIT
Parkway LIFE REIT

Most investors here also hold small-caps too, like the US office REITs. For large-caps. don't forget about Mapletree, Keppel and Frasers's family of REITs.

Apart from pure real estate REITs, there also business trusts which you can invest, for example Keppel Infrastructure Trust (Utilities) or NBN Netlink Trust (telco infrastructure).



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post Aug 9 2021, 11:19 PM

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Dasin Retail Trust: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...e0e2443fb721ab#
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post Aug 10 2021, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 10 2021, 03:13 PM)
The sponsor is very big now,... this shld have some good outcomes coming soon for ESR REIT. Just gut feel -lar, bro,...
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Organic growth is ok, but if inorganic stuff (M&A) ended up rejected like Sabana, that would not be good news. ESR itself is also highly leveraged, even after discounting the REIT's leverage. So organic growth likely accompanied by shareholder capital injection. Just my own thoughts.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 10 2021, 08:36 PM)
I trust this acquisition will not be rejected by shareholders, and if there is going to be n ESR, the HK shareholders will be taking-up the EFR which may be initiated by ESR Cayman. With ESR Cayman 'controlling' the stakes held by Ara Asset Mgmt in the many different SG REITs and trusts,.... I suspect good things may come to ESR REIT soon,...

You missed one more negative quality of ESR REIT,.... besides the leverage ratio,.... smile.gif
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Oh what did I miss?

I am no expert in small cap space. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Aug 10 2021, 11:18 PM)
Many of the lease for esr reit portfolio is expiring soon
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Oh short WALE. Yes. https://esr-reit.listedcompany.com/newsroom...GBIWTMDSF.3.pdf

From here I also see recent negative rental reversions and high portfolio concentration risk. Not sure if one of these is the "negative quality" Hansel is taking about.

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post Aug 12 2021, 09:04 AM

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KDC's private placement: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Keppel%20DC%...t&FileID=678348

Advanced distribution details: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Keppel%20DC%...t&FileID=678350

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post Aug 12 2021, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(edwin1002 @ Aug 12 2021, 05:21 PM)
may i ask normally singaporean will discuss SG stock in which website?
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https://www.investingnote.com/

http://www.sharejunction.com/sharejunction...atestTopics.htm

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/forums/s...and-indices.92/

These are the 3 I know.
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post Aug 13 2021, 08:36 AM

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Sasseur REIT: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...1abfc9bd28c04d9
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post Aug 13 2021, 10:21 AM

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post Aug 13 2021, 06:52 PM

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post Aug 23 2021, 03:43 PM

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I have new influx of cash which is almost double my current portfolio of some 8k SGD. I need to find new investment opportunities for the cash, so I am planning to diversify into small-caps and non-SG based REITs.

Currently I am looking at China (Sasseur), Europe (Cromwell), and US Office (Prime US).

While the former 2 are easy to choose due to the limited counters available, there are 3 US office REITs, Prime US, Manulife US and Keppel Pacific Oak.

For those in the small-cap space, how do you guys choose between the 3 US office REITs? I look at leverage, Prime has the lowest among the 3, yet it has the highest yield of close to 8% p.a. This puzzles me. I can think of size as an issue, since Prime is still small compared to others. Prime also offers dividend reinvestment plan which is nice for me.

Any experts in the small-cap space willing to share their experience? Much appreciated. smile.gif

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post Aug 23 2021, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 23 2021, 04:23 PM)
Within my limited experience on Sgreit for number of years.
Small cap have better yield, but in term of share price, large cap offer better stability as well as DPU stability.
Also on the issue of better asset recycled with strong sponsor backing.
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Thanks. Do you have experience in BTs like Keppel Infrastructure and NBN Netlink (not counting hospitality "REITs/BTs")? I know NBN has low ROA issue, mentioned in the FAQ by unitholders pre-AGM, don't know much about Keppel infra.

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