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cwhong
post Nov 2 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 29 2013, 01:48 PM)
U can just let the bank charge SGD2  a month.. which works up to $24 x 2.6 = RM62.40
in long run, if hv few cheques frm REITS paid quarterly, then worth it.

BTW : 0.05% pa?... i understand that there is no interest being paid for DBS iaccount.

If u are using local brokerage there is a charge for everytime u bank in a Singapore cheque
or if the broker bank in the cheque for you. That's the reason, that I zip over there to maintain a bank ac there.

Alternative try STAND CHART, the brokerage is lower, but nominee ac.
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TT money to SG also involve commissions too...... If less shares and less transactions yearly might not a good idea for overseas account...imho
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post Nov 4 2013, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Nov 2 2013, 09:26 PM)
elea88 please help me check with DBS VIcker.what is the commission and charges associating with buying/selling Singapore REITS and receiving DPU. From what i know is there will a be SGD$20 CDP-sub account fees per dollar, SGD7-10 trust account maintenance fees per month and also Dividend handling fees raging from SGD2 to 1% of total gross dividend amount.
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what is the commission and charges associating with buying/selling Singapore REITS - SGD 18 if cash upfront account
sgd 25 for others (margin or cash)
check here for charges info:
https://www.dbsvonline.com/English/index.asp

Mine I open CASH UP FRONT ac so, all dividends will be bank-in directly to
my DBS ACCOUNT, so no handling fees.

I transfer money from DBS bank to VICKERS (immediate usage)
then I buy... I did not take the other ac.. as it is tedious.. after purchase the shares,
then must remember to make payment. However, that ac got credit.

Whereas, if I buy from m'sia my broker charge me RM10 per dividend cheque received.
and my M'sia brokerage rate is :

Brokerage for Singapore share ( 2 ways charges ) Singapore-0.18% min SGD15 M'sia---0.6% min RM50

CDP - hv no idea that there is Charges. This I got to check. Maybe "gark" can help.


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post Nov 4 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Nov 2 2013, 11:54 PM)
TT money to SG also involve commissions too...... If less shares and less transactions yearly might not a good idea for overseas account...imho
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Yes, i agree, if less shares and transaction THEN.. it is too troublesome.

But if few SHARES.. and few times DIVIDEND... i calculated, O.K la for me.

I have few shares/reits counter bought from M'sia and everytime i get dividend i see the RM10.00 deducted.
Sometimes my dividend only SGD 5.. and RM 10 is deducted. So, not feasible to be buying little Singapore shares from M'sia.
IF WANT collect dividends.

TT from Msia is RM 10.00 but, DBS charges SG20 to receive the money. The transfer of money is COSTLY!


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post Nov 4 2013, 08:27 PM

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Ascott REIT to raise S$253.7 Mln via rights issue

Ascott Residence Trust (Ascott Reit) has launched an underwritten renounceable rights issue, to raise approximately S$253.7 million.

In a statement, it said existing unitholders will be offered 253.7 million rights units, at a ratio of one unit for every five units already held, as at the book closure date.

The rights units will be issued at S$1.00 each. This is at a discount of approximately 22.5 per cent to the closing price of S$1.29 per unit, as on Monday, and a discount of approximately 19.5 per cent to the theoretical ex-rights price.

Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd (ARTML) chairman Lim Jit Poh said: “The rights issue will enhance Ascott Reit’s financial flexibility to tap future growth opportunities."

He said, it will also increase Ascott Reit’s trading liquidity and enhance its credit profile.

"Unitholders will be able to subscribe for the rights units and benefit from Ascott Reit’s future growth strategies.

"There is a strong pipeline of potential acquisitions from our sponsor, The Ascott Ltd (Ascott), and third parties.

"We will continue to seek acquisition opportunities in key gateway cities in China, Japan, Malaysia, Australia and Europe. Ascott Reit will also continue to invest on refurbishing our properties, to drive organic growth," he said.

Ascott Reit is managed by Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd — a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ascott and an indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of CapitaLand Ltd — one of Asia’s largest real estate companies.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 4 2013, 08:27 PM)
Ascott REIT to raise S$253.7 Mln via rights issue

Ascott Residence Trust (Ascott Reit) has launched an underwritten renounceable rights issue, to raise approximately S$253.7 million.

In a statement, it said existing unitholders will be offered 253.7 million rights units, at a ratio of one unit for every five units already held, as at the book closure date.

The rights units will be issued at S$1.00 each. This is at a discount of approximately 22.5 per cent to the closing price of S$1.29 per unit, as on Monday, and a discount of approximately 19.5 per cent to the theoretical ex-rights price.

Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd (ARTML) chairman Lim Jit Poh said: “The rights issue will enhance Ascott Reit’s financial flexibility to tap future growth opportunities."

He said, it will also increase Ascott Reit’s trading liquidity and enhance its credit profile.

"Unitholders will be able to subscribe for the rights units and benefit from Ascott Reit’s future growth strategies.

"There is a strong pipeline of potential acquisitions from our sponsor, The Ascott Ltd (Ascott), and third parties.

"We will continue to seek acquisition opportunities in key gateway cities in China, Japan, Malaysia, Australia and Europe. Ascott Reit will also continue to invest on refurbishing our properties, to drive organic growth," he said.

Ascott Reit is managed by Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd — a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ascott and an indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of CapitaLand Ltd — one of Asia’s largest real estate companies.
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u have this share? will u sell the rights issue or buy?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 6 2013, 10:59 AM)
u have this share? will u sell the rights issue or buy?
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currently I don't have any shares in Singapore, juz watching first blush.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 6 2013, 12:05 PM)
currently I don't have any shares in Singapore, juz watching first  blush.gif
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i thinking of buying ascendasindreit and soilbuildbizreit today...
still analysing.
ascendasindreit is cum div...
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post Nov 7 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 6 2013, 12:11 PM)
i thinking of buying ascendasindreit and soilbuildbizreit today...
still analysing.
ascendasindreit is cum div...
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i have not looked at ascenda much.
for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div.
price today is better than last week by a few cents.

i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65.
looking at aim and lippo now.
will add bit by bit slowly.
since myreits are like... dead! tongue.gif

i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc.
i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me.
just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough.
one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time.
"savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 7 2013, 01:39 PM
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post Nov 7 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 7 2013, 01:35 PM)
i have not looked at ascenda much.
for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div.
price today is better than last week by a few cents.

i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65.
looking at aim and lippo now.
will add bit by bit slowly.
since myreits are like... dead! tongue.gif

i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc.
i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me.
just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough.
one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time.
"savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term.
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LIPPOMALL just declared

Corporate Action Details (e.g. Rights ratio, dividend ratio, tax rate, etc)

Tax-exempt distribution of 0.68 cents per unit and capital distribution of 0.19 cents per unit



Record Date

14/11/2013



Record Time

17:00



Date Paid/Payable (if applicable)

29/11/2013

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post Nov 7 2013, 03:14 PM

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http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story...-soilbuild-reit

SOILBUILD REITS FY14F yield of 7.8%.

http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story...yangzijiang-132

today price: SGD0.77 about IPO price...

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post Nov 7 2013, 03:39 PM

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any recommendation which S-REIT that I should buy ? example for Malaysia, I'm interested with STAREIT or Starhill..

how about Ascendasreit ?
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post Nov 7 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(altung @ Nov 7 2013, 03:39 PM)
any recommendation which S-REIT that I should buy ? example for Malaysia, I'm interested with STAREIT or Starhill..

how about Ascendasreit ?
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u can choose from here:
http://reitdata.com/

I am having
First reit,
lippomall, - now is CD.. maybe u can consider
& SUNTEC.

Now thinking of adding
SoilbuildBizREIT
and
AIMSAMPI Reit - since price down to 1.53 (as recently ex-dividend)

But whatever u intend to get... do some homework.
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post Nov 7 2013, 04:58 PM

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^thank you smile.gif but then i have no idea how to calculate dividend for S-REIT because got LESS TAX, TAX EXEMPT and Annualised DPU etc sad.gif I appreciated if anybody can help me
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post Nov 7 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(altung @ Nov 7 2013, 04:58 PM)
^thank you smile.gif but then i have no idea how to calculate dividend for S-REIT because got LESS TAX,  TAX EXEMPT and Annualised DPU  etc sad.gif I appreciated if anybody can help me
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check these sites, u can analyze...
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...end-investment/
http://reitdata.com/
http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...in_one/company/

i have lippo, suntec, capitamall, sabana, aimpsami and starhill global.

i look for a balanced mix of div yield, low gearing and liquidity.

other than sabana, all have cap gains and dividends, performace better than myreits so far...

u won't find the perfect one(s) - u just need to decide which approach.

all the best!
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post Nov 7 2013, 10:41 PM

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^thanks avfan..will do analysis smile.gif
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post Nov 8 2013, 12:54 AM

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Noticed this SG thread started having regular crowd.... Switching from my to SG slowly?.....
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post Nov 8 2013, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 7 2013, 07:07 PM)
check these sites, u can analyze...
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...end-investment/
http://reitdata.com/
http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...in_one/company/

i have lippo, suntec, capitamall, sabana, aimpsami and starhill global.

i look for a balanced mix of div yield, low gearing and liquidity.

other than sabana, all have cap gains and dividends, performace better than myreits so far...

u won't find the perfect one(s) - u just need to decide which approach.

all the best!
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my strategy is diversification. Coz one never know the future. Eg: today, 'A' shares might be good.. then suddenly, there will be an announcement, and it might not be good anymore. And since cannot be updating everyday on information (as it is not a fulltime job), my strategy is getting into more counters instead of concentrating on good ones. From industrial to hospitality to retail etc... and mix countries.. then will be balanced REITS portfolio....


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post Nov 12 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Nov 8 2013, 01:54 AM)
Noticed this SG thread started having regular crowd.... Switching from my to SG slowly?.....
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Notice that singapore reits gearing ratio was much more higher than mreit
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post Nov 12 2013, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 8 2013, 08:15 AM)
my strategy is diversification. Coz one never know the future. Eg: today, 'A' shares might be good.. then suddenly, there will be an announcement, and it might not be good anymore. And since cannot be updating everyday on information (as it is not a fulltime job), my strategy is getting into more counters instead of concentrating on good ones. From industrial to hospitality to retail etc... and mix countries.. then will be balanced REITS portfolio....
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You cun diversify too much. U aware that you need to pay SGD 10 every time you receive dividend? Normally reits will payout quarterly
Which means you need to pay SGD 40 every year for stamp duty alone.
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post Nov 13 2013, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 12 2013, 10:18 PM)
You cun diversify too much. U aware that you need to pay SGD 10 every time you receive dividend? Normally reits will payout quarterly
Which means you need to pay SGD 40 every year for stamp duty alone.
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She was using singapore broker and bank into sg bank.... I think quite minimal impact.....compare to me...... hmm.gif

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