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TSprophetjul
post Feb 21 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 10:38 AM)
The management has done a good job, in fact the REIT has posted non stop DPU increase for many years..but still the yield is too low for my appetite.  laugh.gif
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This type of REIT you need mkt reversal to buy. laugh.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(kyone @ Feb 21 2017, 11:46 AM)
Like fed rate hike? brows.gif
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Too tiny........like a Trump Impeachment. brows.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 21 2017, 11:45 AM)
Bro,.. I have seen many times, if a REIT, or for that matter, a counter is 'good', it will still go up in a mkt reversal,...especially for a REIT. Because when mkt is bad, investors take their funds out from speculative positions and pour into safe income ctrs. So,.. no chance to buy also.

For me,.. I think I'll still buy when fundamentals improve, but will not expend all my bullets,... because after buying, I will start to reap the dividends in the next payout,..
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Not just a technical reversal, but a fundamental reversal.
I have bought manya fundamentally strong shares which were sold off with the general market.
Resultant being reaping 10 to 15% yields on costs
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post Feb 21 2017, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 01:43 PM)
Yes, if this reit can reach >5.8% can consider buying.. otherwise I will stick to First Reit...
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Still too low for me. Good thing about SREITs is that there are no withholding taxes! biggrin.gif
Otherwise the yields are not very compelling
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post Feb 21 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2017, 02:02 PM)
Low risk, lower yield loh.
Want higher yield, need to withstand higher risk and more uncertainty ahead.

A trade off.

Want high yield with good steady reit/stocks, need to wait for sell off "carnival", that generally only occurred once to twice in a decade, based on global stock market history.

The last big sell off was 2008, almost nearly 10 years, due another one?  tongue.gif
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Waiting with my nets cast WIDE!
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post Feb 21 2017, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 02:06 PM)
HKSE = No witholding tax.

SGX = No witholding tax until 2020 for REITs unless MAS extend the regulation period
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Did not even realise this! sad.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 02:11 PM)
Thank You, Bro
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post Feb 21 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 02:12 PM)
MKE can buy direct from HKSE, quite competitive rates too.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

I am still surveying HKSE dividend investing... looking for targets.  laugh.gif
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Care to open HREIT thread? smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 02:50 PM

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Seems we have multitude of millionaires here!

hehe!
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 22 2017, 09:06 AM)
Diversifying to LSE ? You just started with SGX, then ASX / HKSE.. so fast to LSE ?

DBSV can buy the stocks listed in LSE ?
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My Msian portal can access following

1. AMEX (American Stock Exchange)
2. NASDAQ (National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotation)
3. NYSE (New York Stock Exchange)
4. LSE (London Stock Exchange)
5. ASX (Australian Stock Exchange)
6. SGX (Singapore Exchange)
7. SEHK (Stock Exchange of Hong Kong)
8. IDX (Indonesia Stock Exchange)
9. SZSE (Shenzhen Stock Exchange)
10. SSE (Shanghai Stock Exchange)
11. CSE (Colombo Stock Exchange)
12. TSE (Tokyo Stock Exchange)
13. SET (Stock Exchange of Thailand)
14. KRX (Korea Stock Exchange)
15. TSX (Toronto Stock Exchange)
16. Europe Markets


But actually cannot access ASX! vmad.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 22 2017, 10:00 AM)
My Msian portal can access following

1. AMEX (American Stock Exchange)
2. NASDAQ (National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotation)
3. NYSE (New York Stock Exchange)
4. LSE (London Stock Exchange)
5. ASX (Australian Stock Exchange)
6. SGX (Singapore Exchange)
7. SEHK (Stock Exchange of Hong Kong)
8. IDX (Indonesia Stock Exchange)
9. SZSE (Shenzhen Stock Exchange)
10. SSE (Shanghai Stock Exchange)
11. CSE (Colombo Stock Exchange)
12. TSE (Tokyo Stock Exchange)
13. SET (Stock Exchange of Thailand)
14. KRX (Korea Stock Exchange)
15. TSX (Toronto Stock Exchange)
16. Europe Markets 
But actually cannot access ASX!  vmad.gif
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AAAhhhhhhhhh This Kenanga Inv Bank is so so misleading.

Actually only can trade US, SG and Thai Markets through their portal! vmad.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 10:18 AM)
Come open at SG lar.. can trade anywhere including NYSE ARCA through portal..  tongue.gif
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NYSE no problem......the rest is just misleading advert
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 10:48 AM)
NYSE and NYSE ARCA is different... I found that most broker in MY cannot trade ARCA through online.
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What's the difference?

Cos I can find some of the same stocks on the other exchange? Like AMEX
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 11:03 AM)
ARCA is for trading ETF, ETP & ETN

https://www.nyse.com/markets/nyse-arca
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Yeah

But some of these are also on the other exchanges like AmEx, NASDAQ and NYSE

for eg GDX is on AMEX as well as ARCA
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post Feb 22 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 11:41 AM)
Yes some are dual listed, but not all. If you dont trade ETF, then should be no problem for you.  smile.gif
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I do trade some precious metal/miner ETFs through AMEX. There are lots of ETFs on AMEX
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post Feb 22 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 01:41 PM)
Fraser Comm Trust looks like approaching new low.. @1.25 yielding almost 8%..  drool.gif

Risk : HP Lease at Alexandra Technopark is going to expire soon. China Square is undergoing reno, so will have loss of income.

Pro : Aussie building (Central park) might have some catalyst in higher occupancy with revival of mining. AUD is poised to be stronger.

Please do your own research and buy at your own risk.  tongue.gif
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Approaching 2016 low of 1.23
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post Feb 22 2017, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 22 2017, 03:15 PM)
Warchest plan
- Dividend which received + injected capital. No DRIP for me as DRIP can cause odd no which make it hard to sell.
- Will include USD, SGD, HKD/ASX.
- amount should be sufficient to buy 3-4x of each fund (on SGD1k/fund) that's why keeping my total list short.
- Will use United Asian HY bond fund to pay for DBS MCA SGD5/month fees.

I do not have any ASX. I think ASX is kind of waste as the 30% tax is high. From what I learnt with reading from those who invest using ETF, keep your cost low (brokerage + tax).

Ask yourself why did you invest in Manulife US REITS? Why not invest straight into US exchange? I am sure there are other office REITS in US which can beat Manulife. I think the answer is simple. The withholding tax by US gov. Manulife is tax free if we submit the WBEN8 form. Same thing apply to ASX.

If the returns are same with S-reits, will not go into ASX. Will use proxy reit manager to get higher returns (s-reit is tax free) compare to ASX (30% tax).

Will consider ASX only if the return can be more than S-REITS (even a little is ok)
Prefer
- UT for now. No frill about right issue, tax issue, analysis about cash flow etc, just moniter the market when drop then dump in when drop. Cheaper S-reit (0% SC instead of SGD18). Make 4.xx% return in less than 6 months (FSM MY). Some of my funds have me 7.xx% in less 6 months. Took guy3288 advise and buy when market drop drastically (UT).
- Haven't get any returns from S-reit yet so my comment does not hold water.
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Ram Bro,

You have a good mind. thumbsup.gif

Good point about Manulife Reit. There are many US funds and Reits which would beat Manulife easy. There are some which pays a monthly dividend.

I wish I started as early as you after school.
Keep it up! thumbup.gif

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post Feb 22 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 22 2017, 07:15 PM)
Bro,

Would u consider Omega Healthcare reits listed in NYSE ? Dividend yield 7.7%
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not so sure here. Good stock. But healthcare will face issues with Trump stopping Obamecare.

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post Feb 23 2017, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 22 2017, 10:56 PM)
Under Trump reign, what US counters can we consider then ?
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Not really thought about that really. Is all ASSumptions at this point of time
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post Feb 23 2017, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 22 2017, 07:15 PM)
Bro,

Would u consider Omega Healthcare reits listed in NYSE ? Dividend yield 7.7%
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