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TSprophetjul
post Jun 18 2022, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 18 2022, 02:12 PM)
Any news on recent sasseur drop?
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Could be refinancing related outlook. Similar to Dasin and EC World.
Sasseur's debt maturity for Sgd303mil is maturing March 2023.
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post Jun 21 2022, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 20 2022, 11:42 PM)
Dasin's loans are refinanced, but just for another 6 months.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/DASINRT-Stat...t&FileID=721283

Looks like the REIT is in hot soup.
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Bro

It is NOT refinanced. Its just an extension of the previous tenure. Obviously there will be penalties to go with these extensions.

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The Trustee-Manager wishes to update that the lenders of both the Onshore Facilities and Offshore
Facilities (the “Lenders”) pertaining to Xiaolan Metro Mall, Ocean Metro Mall and Dasin E-Colour (the
“Initial Portfolio”) and Shiqi Metro Mall with outstanding loans amounting to S$499,520,000 as at 31
December 2021, have granted an extension of approximately six months from 19 June 2022 to 31
December 2022.
The Trustee-Manager has been working closely with the Lenders for the refinancing exercise and
exploring potential proposals including but not limited to the disposal of the certain Trust assets,
partnership with strategic investors, and alternative fund raising activities. The Trustee-Manager hopes
to see a successful conclusion to the refinancing exercise soon.


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post Jun 21 2022, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 21 2022, 03:39 PM)
Didn't know you are BT subscriber. tongue.gif
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Am not. biggrin.gif
Copied from another forum. laugh.gif
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post Jun 22 2022, 09:51 AM

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http://ireitglobal.listedcompany.com/newsr...FKNIGCCMW.1.pdf

IREIT wins 12-year major new lease at Sant Cugat Green
• Approximately 5,300 sqm vacant data centre space will be taken up, bringing the
occupancy rate of Sant Cugat Green from 77.1% as at 31 March 2022 to 97.2% on a pro
forma basis

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post Jun 22 2022, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 22 2022, 02:31 PM)
ya i just notice this DAIWA HOUSE.. whats story . why drop like that?
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Yen is depreciating.
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post Jun 23 2022, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jun 23 2022, 10:55 AM)
Can someone englighten me? i saw many sources and all listed elite reit P/E as "loss"? is that the case?
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Listed P/E as "loss"? What does that mean? How can P/E be loss?

So far so good.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Elite%20Comm...t&FileID=714990

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jun 23 2022, 11:02 AM
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post Jun 23 2022, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jun 23 2022, 11:05 AM)
i have no idea bro that's why asking here.
I've checked a a few sites.
P/E and EPS is loss/negative.
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So far they have been doing quite well actually.
What are the sites stating this?
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post Jun 23 2022, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jun 23 2022, 11:07 AM)
yahoo finance, tiger broker, just to name a few.
others i simply google and its same  laugh.gif
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This thing here:

Change in fair value of investment properties 5 (15,110) 15,887 (28,217) 15,887
(Loss)/Profit before tax 13 (1,500) 24,180 (3,371) 29,099
Tax credit/(expense) 14 2,188 (4,699) (1,370) (5,741)
Profit/(loss) after tax 688 19,481 (4,741) 23,358

Not an accountant. But the change in fair value is causing negative impact to the P and L.
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post Jun 30 2022, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 30 2022, 05:05 PM)
Oh just realized EC World dropped another 9%. Now it's about the same price as it was back in March 2020.

As for what to do, can ask prophetful. He has experience with Eagle Hospitality Trust, that one defaulted on its debt, EC World still hasn't.
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i sold EC World at 75.5 in Feb when there was sign of property finance default problems in China.
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There is now financing issues with Dasin and now EC World. Is Sasseur next?
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post Jun 30 2022, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 30 2022, 06:28 PM)
When I noticed the price of KDC REIT kept dropping earlier,.. I sensed there was something wrong with this REIT,... then I looked at Digicore REIT and this was dropping too. I sold off KDC REIT at a profit,...

I am going to be in a dilemma too when I receive the proceeds of MNACT at end-July next mth,... I am watching ESR-Logos closely to load-up on. I have lots of the other good REITs, hence,... have no intention to average up on them anymore.
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Why ESR Logos, bro?

ESR are snakes.
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post Jun 30 2022, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 30 2022, 06:31 PM)
Bro,... Sasseur has the LOWEST gearing among all SGX REITs. The assets shld be able to tie her over, and secondly,... China is re-opening again,...
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Yes. Gearing is low. But i understand like 90%(stand to be corrected) debt is maturing next year.
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post Jun 30 2022, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 30 2022, 06:36 PM)
Hey bro,....

Emm,...

Big sponsor, big mkt cap, 'makan' Ara-Logos,.. and may 'makan' other REITs too,... AEI's running and when completed, will provide good yields,... what else,... ESR listing in HK is not doing too bad in spite of many property companies running into financing problems in China and HK... what else,...

And secondly,.. this is my personal circumstance,... I HAVE ALL THE OTHER BIG REITs in my hldgs. Not keen to average-up. I don't know what else to buy,... What else would you do if you're in my situation,... and continuing to have dividends pouring in ?
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Yeah. Running out of good SREITs to buy. i still have my proceeds from selling EC World idle.
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post Jun 30 2022, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 30 2022, 06:51 PM)
Bro,... why do you say ESR-Logos is a snake ? I know many people say the same thing too,....
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It's the under handed way they forced the mergers, I believe.
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post Jul 1 2022, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 30 2022, 10:21 PM)
My average holding cost of EC World REIT is about SGD 0.72. Yes, i am somewhat aware of issues faced by this REIT.

I only have limited fund to buy the share, to average down my cost. Anyway, I have no need to sell this share.

So, what should I do? Continue to hold this REIT, or buy more shares to average down?

Thank you very much for the advice.
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You said: "I have no need to sell the share"

a) Continue to hold- You still accept the fundamentals of this REIT is still good.

b) Average down - You still accept the fundamentals of this REIT is still good.

If you still accept the fundamentals of the REIT is still good, then it should be the opportunity of a lifetime to buy at such low prices.
However, the price has come down for a reason. Some thing about the REIT has changed.
So you should do your own DD and then make a wise decision.
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post Jul 1 2022, 09:44 AM

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What' s wrong with EC World REIT?
Probably a dose of dé jà vu, that is master leases, and capital management. The net asset value of EC World REIT as at end-2021 stood at 93 cents. Its unit price closed at 48 cents on June 30, 2022. That values EC World REIT at 0.51x NAV. The market capitalisation as at June 29 was $388 million based on units in issue of 809.49 million as stated in the 2021 annual report, The secured debt outstanding stood at $725 million as at Dec 31, 2021.

On June 29, the Singapore Exchange, questioned the REIT&rsquo s refinancing efforts following the latter&rsquo s announcements on June 1 and June 13. Why were the loan extensions for less than 12 months? Why are the lenders not financing beyond April 2023? Are there difficulties in obtaining onshore facilities?

Among the answers given, it turns out that the offshore lenders requested an undertaking when the manager was negotiating for the extension of the REIT&rsquo s offshore loans. &ldquo If at least 25% of the aggregate principal amount of the outstanding offshore fcilities is not repaid by 31 December 2022, EC World REIT faces an event of default which will trigger mandatory prepayment of the offshore facilities,&rdquo EC World REIT&rsquo s manager says.

The manager confirmed that event of default will trigger cross defaults across EC World REIT&rsquo s other existing facilities such as the onshore facilities and revolving loan facilities.

On June 13, EC World REIT&rsquo s manager signed and announced the entry into a non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the sponsor, to explore the potential divestment of two of EC World REIT&rsquo s assets - Beigang Stage 1 Logistics and Chongxian Port Logistics.

Valuation

In the IPO prospectus, the initial valuation of the properties did not take into account the master lease rents, but instead used underlying rental rates. The master leases were for a term of five years as the manager believed this would have been the optimal length of time required for the underlying rental rates of Chongxian Port Investment, the Stage 1 Properties of Bei Gang Logistics and Fu Heng Warehouse to reach the master lease rental level, the prospectus had said.

Yet, in FY2021, related party rents totalled $105.87 million, or 84% of revenue. This is marginally lower the FY2020&rsquo s related party rents of $93.92 million versus revenue of $109.72 million.

The REIT&rsquo s FY2021 annual report says that gross revenue of the portfolio was $125.5 million and the DPU for the full year was 6.263 Singapore cents. The projected revenue derived from market rent would have been $116.8 million and the corresponding DPU would have been 5.662 Singapore cents.

See also: Jim Chanos' latest big short: data centre REITs

As compared to the projected market rents, the master leases gross rent for Chongxian Port Investment, Bei Gang Logistics, Fu Heng Warehouse and Fuzhou E-Commerce are approximately RMB8.0 million, RMB24.4 million RMB2.4 million and RMB7.8 million higher respectively. The total difference of RMB42.6 million is 7.1% of the portfolio gross rent in 2021, the annual report states.

The difference in rents does not justify the P/NAV of 0.51x. The manager has blamed property market conditions in China for EC World REIT&rsquo s refinancing challenges. Investors are clearly nervous, given that so much of EC World REIT&rsquo s liquidity depends on the sponsor: rents, the valuation of the properties, and the undertaking to raise cash by divesting assets. As indicated in the annual report, $725 million of loans are secured, except for an inter-company loan of $426 million.

Analysts were sanguine about EC World REIT&rsquo s refinancing till June 29, when RHB Research started sounding a lot more cautious. Soochow CSSD Capital Markets says it is reviewing its recommendation. DBS Group Research was relatively upbeat following the June 1 refinancing announcement.

Now, with its loans at almost twice the value of EC World REIT&rsquo s market capitalisation, market watchers are likely to be a lot more concerned.
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post Jul 1 2022, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 1 2022, 11:04 AM)
thanks for info.. aiyo.. drop 14% today.. really even REITS have to monitor
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Unless you invest in the 4 big guns like Capitalland, Mapletree, Ascendas, Keppel

But even my Capland China Trust has gone down. So.....
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post Jul 1 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 1 2022, 11:24 AM)
Well bro,... If we are unitholders of ESR REIT, we shld be happy that ESR REIT is able to takeover other REITs with as minimum cost as possible, right ? Of course, we would not be happy if we are unitholders of the target company,...
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Not sure if the value of the merger is there? Or have they overpaid by being so aggressive?

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post Jul 1 2022, 06:25 PM

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