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Ramjade
post Aug 31 2021, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Aug 31 2021, 08:56 PM)
Finally you use the word "premium"! laugh.gif

Last off topic question, you didn't have WP Carey? Last time you suggested me that one. I thought post-WHT yield looks good to you.
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Price shot up. Didn't grab. Oh well, I grab, wouldn't be have money left to do options and generate "DIY dividend"/premium. biggrin.gif Guess a blessing in disguise.
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post Sep 1 2021, 07:54 PM

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Hansel any idea if they are coming for us overseas investor soon?
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The ministry said the government is also considering implementing the Tax Identification Number (TIN) and reviewing tax treatment that is identified as having elements of revenue leakage or harmful practices

From what I read here, no. But I don't like the sound of TIN.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...lection/2001874

Would like to hear from you. Thanks.
Ramjade
post Sep 4 2021, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(heyamazingpeople @ Sep 3 2021, 10:08 PM)
Bro, can share what stock u use to do option trading? Selling calls and puts?
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Only do on stocks you want to hold long term or don't mind picking it up. Do not do on stocks you don't want to pickup or hold long term. That's rule number one.

No problem. Here's the list. May not be accurate as some I have moved on. Which one still active up to you to guess. tongue.gif
Apple, Taiwan semi conductor, Visa, Nvidia, AMD, lemonade, palantir, tattooed chef, crowdstrike, docusign, square, sea ltd, fiverr, snowflake, arkk.

Planning Microsoft, Salesforce. Home depot, Shopify, Tesla. But no money for it yet.

So what I do and use does not necessarily mean will work with you as I have high risk tolerance.

QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 3 2021, 10:14 PM)
I think you can start a thread with Ram on this. For long I have wanted to know his "covered call" strategy. He never wants to start a thread and tell. smile.gif
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I think I shared before what stock I used. You can see above.

QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 3 2021, 05:17 PM)
Hi bro,...

For us here doing investments into overseas equities, bonds and the like, taxing us on our returns has a long way to go for this government. They don't have the framework to do it and they wouldn't even be able to enforce it too. So, coming after us to snatch part of our returns would not be so easy to do.
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Thanks for the input. I am still monitoring the news.

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Ramjade
post Sep 5 2021, 03:59 AM

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QUOTE(heyamazingpeople @ Sep 4 2021, 10:59 PM)
Well, some stock are not cheap.. need a lot of capital to do cash secured put.. unless doing this on margin..
Sure, always dyodd i guess..

Before i go far out of topic,
we should have a new thread talking about option trading..
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You are paying for quality companies. No choice. For me my best performer have been palantir. 20% ROI so far and it's cheap (price wise)
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post Oct 5 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 5 2021, 09:09 AM)
i hope its not some crooked news!   sad.gif
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Unlikely. UOB won't spoil their name. Most likely acquisition. So different compare to my Canadian counterpart. My Canadian counterpart bought at cad9.00 and fly to cad13.xx and getting paid min 10%p.a after tax. This one drop. Lol.

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post Oct 5 2021, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 5 2021, 09:14 AM)
Well. i bought at 55 cents....so.

Never say never. Look at Eagle H Trust.....fully supported by DBS and CROOKED.
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It's not fully supported by DBS. Don't have their name. This one UOB put their name in it. United hamisphere.
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post Oct 8 2021, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 04:50 PM)
No need to compare like that,... first of all,.. UHREIT dropped because of the pricing of the private placement. IT will rise back,... dropping is good for investors to enter low.

In future, when the CRA changes their rules, then you will know,... when they send you notices to your address to pay more taxes, then you will know.
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For now IB with hold the correct tax. So not worried. That's the beauty of IB. They are smart enough to know how much tax to with hold and don't blindly with hold the full amount.

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post Oct 8 2021, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 8 2021, 05:02 PM)
How come? Takudan reported on IB thread that her Swiss stocks WHT is fully deducted without considering tax treaties.

Is Canada being lenient or they don't have "tax vouchers" yet?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 05:07 PM)
Ahh,....  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  Now, I'm hearing this : Swiss stocks WHT is fully deducted without considering tax treaties.

Thank you, bro, for sharing,...

I think that Ramjade will reply,.... Swiss is Swiss, Canada is Canada,..... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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The answer is because Malaysia and Swiss got no tax treaty hence tax full amount lo. As far as I know. Hence I avoided Swiss when I was still a dividend investor.

QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 05:05 PM)
What full amt ? It's either 15% or 30% with most countries.

Msia has a Double Treaty Tax Agmt with the CRA,... it's straightforward 15%,... till they feel there is a reason to increase this amt at their discretion.

IB incurs banking fees when remitting in funds. Not so beautiful here compared against another even though the brokerage is slightly cheaper than the other.
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Actually got some 10, 15, 25, 30, 35%. Not pure 15 and 30%. Last I checked.
For, me, it's free when I remit in funds cause I use FAST transfer. The only stuff I pay is USD 2.00 conversion charges regards how much I exchange at spot rate. Thats beautiful to me.

Where in the world, can you find a brokerage that with hold the correct amount paid to you based off treaty of the country, give you spot exchange rate and only charge you USD2.00/conversion, give you free inward and outward transaction? And best if all no need to be priority/private banking.

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post Oct 8 2021, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 8 2021, 05:23 PM)
Haha he busy preparing to write calls tonight.

Regarding tax, you might want to read this: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=102419542
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I only do once a week. And it's on Monday or Tuesday only. If I didnt go thr options road, I wouldn't have been able to increase my dividends by 1200%

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 8 2021, 05:40 PM)
You help me to debate with IB lah lol I want to have a stake in Nestle, Roche and Novartis, but the tax is putting me off. You debate with IB to chase back your "overcharged" WHT?
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Don't bother about dividends bro. Call options and put options is the way to go. Been there, done threre. Was severely limited by dividend tax before this. Now not anymore. brows.gif

Now I am basically free bird. Last time dividend tax was my cage or stone tied to my leg. You can do options on European stock. Let me check and see if the above got options.

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post Oct 8 2021, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 05:45 PM)
Everybody knows FAST Transfer is FREE-lar,... what if you transfer in USD ? Where got free with IBKR ?

You are going to say you don't transfer in USD but you change over from SGD, right ? Then you are not thinking abt people who have USDs to invest.

I transfer in USDs FREE from all charges.

Many brokerages withhold the correct amount IF you can provide the official certified proof of country of residence. Perhaps you have only experienced the ones that don't.

Free inward and outward transactions ? Many don't charge internal admin fees when they process the transfers for you. But if you transfer out too often, administrative charges will start to kick-in.

Whatever it is, you still need to pay bank charges if you TT to another bank outside of SG when you don't have an SG bank account, right ?
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Bro, I transfer USD from DBS free. So many times already.

Yes free inward and outward provided it's local bank transfer. Interactive broker mentioned black and white, one free withdrawal a month which honestly I never even ultitised. If you have bank account overseas like you have, you can link your bank account to IB, convert at spot rate and withdraw to the local bank account for free (provided you didn't use up the 1 free monthly withdrawal yet). This is cheat way to convert the money and bypass the bank altogether. Save you on markup exchange rate, and TT fees. All only paying USD 2.00.

That one you cannot avoid. Thr one is from banking side. There is no way around it as far as I know. Unless as mentioned above you do local withdrawal.
QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 05:49 PM)
Based on above bolded statement that you mentioned,... you have failed badly as an SG REIT investor. And you are using Options in countries that have this program to cover-up your failures. I too can cover-up my failures with my other instruments if I wished to.

But I'm a relatively successful SG REIT and dividend stock investor.
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Actually wrong. You started way earlier than me when yield was like 7-8%. I startrd when? When yield was like 6% and decreasing over time. You have the initial start advantage.

Second question.Can your dividend growth be juiced up 1200%? No dividend growth can give you that. With options I juiced my dividend growth by 1200% (yes I considered premium as DIY dividend).

Third question, can you add when dividend only give you 3-4%p.a? Last time I can't add because of this. Now no dividend/they giving peanuts I don't care. I don't care cause I am generating my own dividends. No money rotting in the bank because things are expensive (I still keep cash and will only buy when market is red).

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post Oct 8 2021, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Oct 8 2021, 05:08 PM)
UtdHampshire mainly in grocery properties.

How grocery industry in US doing currently?

With online shopping on the rise, how impact on grocery shopping future?
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Ask yourself, you rather pick your own vegetables and fruits or have someone pick majority rotten/over ripe ones for you? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 05:13 PM)
Just my opinion : I would like an exposure into grocery-anchored props too in The US too. Based on datapoints around us and on other factors, such malls are building visitor footfalls again from re-openings in The USA.

Even during the pandemic, rental collection rate was acceptable,... in the high-80s, if my memory serves me right !
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Yup. Your memory did not fail you. It was high 80s%
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post Oct 8 2021, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 8 2021, 06:05 PM)
But then what about Takudan's reply from IB?
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After reading Swiss got no tax treaty, hence I backed away. I was like you. Wanting to own a piece of nestle. So far, only way to know is experiment.

Btw Novartis (US, and Swiss side)and Nestle have options. Roche don't think so. But if roche are listed in LSE under 0QQ6, might have options.

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post Oct 8 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 06:29 PM)
You transfer USD from DBS free. Doesn't IBKR's bank charge you anything for your incoming ? I'm neutral to this question.

You have ONLY 1 Free withdrawal, I have unlimited withdrawals if I wished to. You never know,... especially since you are using IBKR as a bank to convert your funds. You'll still have to pay USD2 if yuo transfer out for the second time onwards every month.

My banking side is free too for USDs.

Your yield started decreasing 'cos your REITs started to 'die-off' and you did not put in actions to mitigate this. You must know how to manage your REIT-investment. There is no such thing as auto-pilot. Nothing to do with initial advantage,... you don't know how to manage.

My First REIT, Singpost and Starhub died too,... so I quickly took profit and moved on to other REITs. My yield for Parkway Life is 6+% at my cost price today.

You want to talk abt Options that made you 1200% more over your dividends ? Wait till I tell you how much I made in my forex pair,.. just one pair is enough.

Don't use other instruments to shield your weaknesses.
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Free from dbs side. Use DBS remit. Free from IB side as well.

Once exceeded the one free withdraw a month, it only cost USD10/withdrawal.

You might have free withdraw, but can you get spot rate exchange rate and local withdraw for no fees without being a private banking customer? biggrin.gif Even priority cannot get access to spot rate. Remember not everyone have cash/asset for private banking. You need to bring yourself down to people like me and TOS which have no access to priority banking/private banking. I value the spot exchange rate Vs free withdrawal anytime anyday.

I give you some example.
Fraser's logistics 7.x%-> 4.88%
maple tree commercial 6% -> 3.83%
mapletree logistics 7-8%-> 4 11%
Ascendas 6.xx-> 4.9%
Parkway 4.5% -> 3%

The above are example that I faced. I can't add at the above latest yield. Not worth to put my money in at such low yield. Is not about finding the next thing before it die off. Is can you add at such miserable yield? Just answer me this.

Forex need to see news constantly. Mine is just once a week and that's it.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 8 2021, 07:12 PM)
How much is your banking fees to transfer out from IBKR ? This is banking TT fees, NOT that USD10/withdrawal which is charged by IBKR for administrative work.

I'll refer to your question here : Is can you add at such miserable yield? Just answer me this.

Then I will reply : Why you never bought earlier ? Why you never took the trouble to study and the risk to enter earlier ?? That's your own fault.

Okay,... let's say I have not bought any of the above and everything is so expensive today,... then it's my fault again if I never bought around March last year and it would again be my fault if I couldn't find another gem at today's price. Right ? It's not the mkt's fault.

You sure you can forget abt your Options after you entered a position ? Your counterpart can always close his position earlier with American Options. You will need to observe closely and take mitigating actions if he closes his position before the Expiry Date.
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No idea. Cause I don't withdraw anything except once to test water. I withdraw once before, it was free. Convert to SGD and withdraw to CIMB sg. Free.

You are not answering my question yet. I did buy last year. But last year was a fluke. It ain't going to happen again. Can you add at such miserable rates going forward? This is the question assuming yield not going to back to the the good old days. Assuming you are starting out again like many of the people, can you add at such miserable yield? For me, no. It ain't worth it to get 3-4%p.a

Something need to tell you, unless your options is worth lots of money very rare for it be exercised early. Why? Because there's extrinsic value left. My options are all the type that expired weekly. If they want to exercise, long time already exercise.

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post Oct 8 2021, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 8 2021, 09:09 PM)
I am not a lawyer though. PM Hansel but no reply... Maybe need to give him some room to relax.
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Don't bother so.much.with dividend tax. Just buy and experiment. If they taxxed you too muh, go the options way as I told you via.PM. Dividend tax solved.

If you really want to claimed your tax, you need to open an account with the tax agency of that country. Do anual filling to get back your money. You need to think how to open tax profile in that country if they don't have online account opening. Do you really want to fly there just to open an account? How much is the air ticket and the accomodation going to be?! Can you make back the air ticket, accommodation by filling for rmtax refund? Something to think about. Even the thought of filling up more paper work already make me more headache. Hence I take the easy way out. Let the govt earned the money since they are so desparare for it. I get "cashback" for the dividend paid by doing options. Learn options and keep things simple. Less headache.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Oct 10 2021, 01:28 PM)
Anyone hold Propnex (OYY) here? any view?
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Don't bother. If you want asset light stuff go for SAAS. Adobe, Microsoft/Google, docusign, Crowdstrike, shopify. Please don't waste your money. You will thank me 5 years later.

Yesi maybe I am bias as I have some money invested in them but I put my money where my mouth is.

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post Oct 11 2021, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 11 2021, 12:08 AM)
Let me reply at midnight now.

To ur first para, then you are in trouble. When you need to withdraw one day, you will be surprised with what you do not know. You have not tested one full cycle of your investment activities.

Let me comment on : you did buy last year. But you have not bought enough. So, you are bitter abt life, and hence, started to say Options is the best for everybody. And everybody shld forget abt dividend stocks. Tell you what,... I know abt Options too,... I know abt Selling Covered Calls to collect premium, but I still wouldn't say Options is for everybody and everybody can forget abt dividend stocks.

I 'continue to start out everyday', identifying dividend stocks STILL WORTH going into. Why am I doing this ? Cos I know I can't pour everything I have into one or two stocks and destroy my wealth if these stocks fail. Diversification is the utmost principle of investing. And I don't like to average-up. Averaging-up reduces my margin of safety and my profit margin. Hence, I will always have 'new stocks' to work with, including today.

You just don't know how to uncover hidden gems.

To your last para,.. weekly options ? Such a short timeline,... then you are earning peanuts for the risk you are taking. The risk/reward ratio is not worth your effort. Lots of work to watch for counters, and lots of work to read if anything has changed before you start a new weekly position.

Tell you something,... I am still topping-up on a dividend stock, TODAY, that is worth it,... 6+% yield at current price. I just queue at 'Good Till Max' and everytime it touches my lower price, it will get matched. There are always gems to be uncovered.
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Bro, why should I withdraw if I don't need the money? I already know I can convert to SGD and withdraw. Already tested that can withdraw to CIMB sg. So no withdrawal issue on my part.

I did buy but I left some backup cash for in case it dip further. You never know if it will become like 2008.

I don't buy so many stocks as it's diworsification. I prefer to concentrate my holdings to stuff I believed in. Sometimes you have to average up. No choice. Hard lesson learned. Same I hate to average up but I have seen my mistake. Stuff I assume exoenst became more expensive. Hence I got no issue average up now.

Actually selling weekly options for me is quite good. You have thetha working with you rather than against you. You want your options to expired worthless. Yes by going more time you can repair but so far from personal experience, weekly is better for me. Actually not much work. Put in order on Monday. Monitor the news and price. Once a week "work". The once a week work 1200% my cashflow Vs dividends.

There are plenty if 6% companies left. Question is how many you want to own? I know some guy owning like 200 companies including junk. You want to own junk or quality? I prefer quality over quantity.

All the best with 6%p.a dividend. Honestly speaking. Cause what work for you wont work for me.
For me, I am never coming back to dividend investing after enjoying the returns from selling options. There's just no way.

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 11 2021, 02:34 AM)
Adobe, MS, Google and Shopify already matured while only collecting dividends atm

Crowdstrike and Docusign especially the former would be the growth instead

With those counters rather do ETFs and average down for better diversification and save on trade cost for long term holdings as there many pick to from as it is gonna be super competitive with more and more new choices coming in  rclxms.gif

Look for LATAM techs as they are still undervalued and more potential growth with the exceptions of Mercadeo Libre  rclxm9.gif
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That's what they said about Amazon and Google. I still see Adobe, MS, Google, Shopify will be higher than currently in 10 years time. Potential to have 2-3 baggers.
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https://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia...earning/2016977
Does this apply to overseas job or investment? I read it as job but maybe I just want to read it that way. sad.gif

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