QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 4 2021, 07:58 AM)
i don't need freebies. i need convenience for my family if i am not around any more. So for me, anything which makes life easier for them.
Plus, i do not trade in and out much. So charges for trustee fees is more impactful to me than the odd 0.1 % of brokerage for the cost of convenience.
For reits, use FSM. I do not know how tiger or moomoo handle rights. But FSM is very easy for rights issue. All online.
Theoretically moomoo and tiger should also be online. But moomoo, tiger beats in term of interface, tools and fees.
If you don't want to fly into Singapore,
1) open cimb sg account online.
2) open moomoo/FSM online.
QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 4 2021, 08:12 AM)
but still keeping the moomoo account That's it! That is the idea of this tactic after all. Because the company knows you are unlikely to close the account, one day you will come back and use it. (You may not right now, but big tech can afford to wait). Leaving an empty account also invites other risks of maintenance (account security issues etc.)
Farming free cashback from new sign up credit cardsOk, I know. My mum wanted to do that too, but I stopped her. Think again, you get the freebies, what happen to the credit card? You cancel it?
Or you use it? Use it and potential cash flows with IRR of single/double digits flow to the banks and me (MA and V shareholder

).
In behavioural economics there is the theory of endowment effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effectYou own something, it's hard to dispose them. So businessmen trick you into buying something you don't need in the first place. This can be seen in other places like AMZN's retailers offering free cashback refund if you don't like their clothes (because they know you are less likely to return them).
When people give you free money, take it. Don't turn down free money.I don't buy into that. In HK, you learn that there is no such thing as
free. This is basic rules of economics 101. When something is free, you ought to pause and think again, not jumping straight into it.
People do things for a motive. Maximize your own utility, not others, that's the goal. Why would Tencent spray cash (so much of them) to give "free shares"? Because one day later you will repay them. It is factored into their business strategy. Right now, each person given one AAPL share which cost several hundred dollars, in the future, for the business to be profitable, they need to recoup at least the several hundred dollars paid today plus interests over time to account for the opportunity cost, that would roll into the thousands (per person) over the years.
As the mantra goes: embrace, extend, extinguish. It is business tactic.
But well, everyone likes free things. Brain chemistry at the mercy of businessman's greed.

Bro, I planned to open moomoo not to get free shares. I open it cause my sg friend who use TD, Interactive broker said nice things about them. I planned to get it for two reasons
1) free real time data for share price.
2) free real time price for options
I have tiger but tiger real price sort of only works on shares. And I got free Starbucks share from it. Never sold.

Like I said, hit and run. After get the free shares, sell it, cash out, close account. Mo penalty for hit and run.
For credit card, apply for it and don't use it. After 6 months cancel. I read of one guy in lowyat forum doing that for Maybank visa signature. Every 6 months reapply cause don't want to pay annual fees.
For me, I only apply credit cards that I only use. Unless they are like US where they give you free USD2k to open new credit card account then maybe I will farm credit card. But Malaysia have no reach that stage yet, so no incentive for me to farm credit card with lousy welce.bonus.
Read all the terms and condition and fees before signing up for something. That's what I did. I make sure no platform fees, no yearly fees, no penalties before doing hit and run on brokerage.
Btw moomoo platform fees is when one carry out transaction only and it's not quarterly. And fees is still cheaper than local brokerage.
For me, only thing I farm is credit card cashback. Reasons
1) it's stupid to pay in cash
2) banks giving you free money take it
3) I use it on groceries, petrol so if I use cash, I won't get anything back.
4) I pay on-time and in full and banks never make money from me.
QUOTE(kart @ Nov 4 2021, 09:05 AM)
Let's assume a simple scenario, whereby a person decides to invest RM 1000 (by transferring this RM 1000 from Malaysia to foreign country), in Stock Exchanges in foreign country.
Scenario 1:
After a year, this person gain a profit of RM 100 (from share capital gain, and dividend). The total amount that this person has in foreign banking account and foreign brokerage account is RM 1100.
This person then decides to remit RM 1000 back to Malaysia. The actual profit of RM 100 is still being kept in foreign banking account.
In such scenario, this RM 1000 should not be taxed, because it is not foreign-sourced income, and it is just initial investment capital of this person.
Scenario 2:
Let's assume that the share price has dropped, and the investment amount has decreased from RM 1000, to RM 800, due to capital loss. Then, person then decides to remit RM 800 back to Malaysia.
In such scenario, this RM 800 should not be taxed, because it is not foreign-sourced income. Moreover, this person has suffered losses in his / her investment capital.
Are my understanding on both scenarios correct?
Thank you.

Let's wait until 2022.
QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 4 2021, 09:20 AM)
I am not sure if LHDN allow you to claim tax refund against you loses in investments though, US allows you to do that:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/perso...ur-tax-bill.aspNot heard of that in MY as far as I know. I think that is for countries with capital gain tax only.
Unlikely they let you claim.l. Govt no money already.
QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 4 2021, 09:28 AM)
Nothing beat convenience sake.
We can't squeeze every drop out. Sometimes a little price paid for easier management, especially aging time, memory may wane.
Also, for the sake quick and easier for families member for Will execution.
A good long term investment return often overwhelmed the cost saving squeezed.
Agreed. Use to squeeze every drop guy. Now realised investment gains > small fees. But I still keep my cost low.
This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 4 2021, 10:43 AM