if the real reason for FFP is to make sure no more clubs fall like Leeds...

cant they just make sure every club's balance sheets are acceptable? lets say certain percentage of debt (if any)?

why manutd so supportive of the idea? well it just make you suspect, right?

Good updates this morning.
Samed Yesil scored twice against England U19's (Sterling & Morgan played).
Shelvy scored one and assisted another against Azerbaijan U21s (Kelly & Henderson played).

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Samed Yesil Goals vs England U19's

Anyone remember this? Rafa

The thing about Man Utd is this. They did it the hard way. The didn't inherit billions to throw away on expensive benchwarmers. Their era of domination was built around homegrown talent which also featured a couple of foreign stars like Cantona, Kanchelskis or Peter Schmeichel. The bulk of the squad however consisted of local lads like Beckham, the Nevilles, Scholes, Butt, Giggs, etc. They then capitalised on their success by marketing the club to the world, something Liverpool failed to do during our era of dominance. If they did spend, the mancs spent money they earned, not inherited and even if they did splurge on a player, they did so because they have a healthy bank balance and cash flow.

FFP may seem to favour a club like Man Utd now because they are already at the pinnacle. However it also ensures that new filthy rich owners of clubs do not spend massive amounts of money just for short term gain. Man City may have garnered much more attention than they have before winning the Prem but they haven't earned any profit to reinvest into other areas of the club e.g. Youth development. How can a business entity be allowed to sustain itself on negative profit? In any other business, banks would have stopped loaning money to them as they did with us. We came that close to going into administration, we were days away in fact.

A TV breakaway deal would be unfair to smaller clubs hence why it wasnt passed.

It's a double edged sword like any proposal. It did state that even if clubs operate at a deficit for the year, consideration will be given if they are how they are headed in the right direction e.g. Investing in a new bigger stadium, improved facilities, setting up academies overseas, etc. in the short run, a club like Man Utd may benefit but in the long run, it addressed issues smaller clubs will have to deal with at some point if they want sustainability. A club like Newcastle for example, I see benefitting from this.

All that is left for Yesil to do is to say "Steady" and he is in the 1st team. Say "steady" Yesil! Say "Steady"

He ain't English so dunno steady...
so the conversation will be like this instead.
BR :   
Yesil : Stetig...stetig
BR :     

the NBA system of salary cap seems to work fine, to a point anyways - the weak teams are still normally weak, with the exception of those who get real lucky in the draft or make outstandingly good trades.

you will still end up with 'super' teams like the Heat and Lakers, but that usually mean having locked up all your $$ on the five starters, your bench is average at best.

there are disadvantages though, in the attempt to even the playing field you are unfair to teams who developed their own talent - i.e OKC will not be able to keep all their homegrown stars eventually.

but that system is also impossible to implement in footie. the NBA is a very closed system - rigid in its structure. There's the draft and it is essentially only a single country. The NBA does not have any real tangible interaction with other b-ball leagues from other countries.

Football spans the world, and although it is true that Selangor will probably never ever play against say Liverpool competitively, top teams from Europe play each other yearly. They cannot even agree on a single monetary policy , so do you really expect them to be able to agree on something so trivial (in the larger sense of things, and sorry Shankly, I'm an accountant after all ) as a unified football regime.

the NBA system of salary cap seems to work fine, to a point anyways - the weak teams are still normally weak, with the exception of those who get real lucky in the draft or make outstandingly good trades.

you will still end up with 'super' teams like the Heat and Lakers, but that usually mean having locked up all your $$ on the five starters, your bench is average at best.

there are disadvantages though, in the attempt to even the playing field you are unfair to teams who developed their own talent - i.e OKC will not be able to keep all their homegrown stars eventually.

but that system is also impossible to implement in footie. the NBA is a very closed system - rigid in its structure. There's the draft and it is essentially only a single country. The NBA does not have any real tangible interaction with other b-ball leagues from other countries.

Football spans the world, and although it is true that Selangor will probably never ever play against say Liverpool competitively, top teams from Europe play each other yearly. They cannot even agree on a single monetary policy , so do you really expect them to be able to agree on something so trivial (in the larger sense of things, and sorry Shankly, I'm an accountant after all ) as a unified football regime.

why did the idea of FFP came about? is it another plot specificly targetted at english teams?

And a better refereeing system. I am sick of referee making mistakes after mistakes. We should have gotten at least 1 penalty decision in our favor in the game against Arsenal but the linesman over rule it while referee easily gives penalty decision to other teams against us (ie: West Brom vs Liverpool)

Plain ridiculous. Liverpool always get bullied season after season.

You should complete the whole conversation, buddy.

BR :  :You need to change your attitude!! 
Yesil : Stetig...stetig
BR :  Whatdick? You said "whatdick" one more time, you'll be on the first plane back to Berlin!
Yesil: 
BR: Yesil! You said "whatdick, Yesil. You said it.
Yesil: 

shit i cant hold myself from giving opinions.. although they are no more than just 2 cents lol

if wanna implement FFP, all clubs should start equal. if not what fair in financial fair play? i still think just let economics work themselves. if any club wanna risk being history, its their own doing. i think thats fair enough

It will come to a point when there is a need to control player's wages. It's getting ridiculous - player's wages and transfer fee. Inflation may soon destroy football.

no thanks to refs not favoring suarez now. hence more reason for him not to be the main CF. i really pity him. sad to see him being treated like that. but good to see him still strong and keep going. just scared to face the day he say i give up, i have enough of this and leave...

Agree with the part on Utd building their way up in the past. I do think it is fair that they are on top, they earn their way up there. I supposed it is the biasness in me due to being a Liverpool supporter, so much so I would be reluctant to see a rule that will benefit them most.    I do think however that certain incentives should be allowed for smaller teams to invest and to catch up with teams with big revenues such as Utd and Arsenal. If not, I think it will be hard for them to catch up with the larger teams.

why did the idea of FFP came about? is it another plot specificly targetted at english teams?

I get you. Gone were the days the likes if Blackburn could get promoted and win the title the next season but with business tycoons and conglomerates now seeing football as being a lucrative source of income, you can't tell this which clubs they should buy. Everyone is hoping for some rich dude to come along and invest in them.
English teams seem to be under scrutiny because they spend more than they counterparts. Almost twice as much. FFP also encourages the use of HG talent which is a good thing for England. Spain, Italy and Germany have no such issues.

not so sure about this... this Blatter and Platini guy really care about football development huh... i mean what is this whole thing about homegrown anyway... if england never have any homegrown or talent to show... i'd say too bad lah... i dont know what the fuss is about...