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davidke20
post Sep 11 2012, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 11 2012, 08:29 AM)
sob sob.. like watching ombak rindu.. (except i didn't watch it anyway)
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Yeah, what a deal. She sold off a red gancil, in exhanged is a white BLM few years later mad.gif So now I'm getting a red Gabby, hope this can confuse her a little to gimme back my GaGa sweat.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 11 2012, 09:26 AM)
Me thinks you'll like the Gabby so much you don't want back your Gaga laugh.gif


Added on September 11, 2012, 9:28 am

Her FLX SE has original 15" rims lah.

I'm using Petronas 15w50. Still can do 6L/100km on haiway icon_idea.gif
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But GaGa is sooooooo pretty wor mellow.gif sumore its so tall, I think taller than yiu icon_idea.gif despite Gabby is elder brother, but its so much shorter lar.
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post Sep 11 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(jason07 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:18 AM)
want to ask...for the aircond part does proton warranty?

for my case is the aircond gas bocor....got smell of gas when open aircond..

normally how many years for warranty for proton saga blm?
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Refrigerant no smell. Be it R12 or R134. You have a dirty coil that clogged up from car fragrant. Open your cabin blower, take out the pollen filter and wash it. After that buy the dry lemon发风甘 put underneath passenger foot area. If can, get a stick of charcoal wrap in newspaper put at the foot area of backseat. Give it few days the weird smell will be gone.

Normal aircon service is around RM50. BUT, normally it will lead to great bleeding as they dismantle your dashboard, wreck your cooling coil and force you to change a new 1. In the end you pay RM500. Ask your close relative to recommend, such as your dad. Aircon different with engine. They can slaughter you anytime they want. Good luck.

QUOTE(Cls63Amg7 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:54 PM)
wow u sure, I've been searching mudah quite some time and all the 2008's are 24-25 k
The 20k is quite hard to spot blink.gif
If mileage above 100k will it require a lot of repairs?
I'm 188cm laugh.gif
Have a history of hitting my head when going in Non suv/mpv doh.gif
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19k doable. Try to get those direct owner deal. Make sure the car already e-batal, meaning no longer loan with bank. The 23~24k means broker/used car dealer already took profit out of the supposed seller's price.

Transfer of ownership = RM100
Sumpah = RM4 x 4 = RM16
Insurance for 25k without NCD = RM900
Roadtax = RM70

You say leh, worth that much for them to earn mou? Basically if previous owner got take care, you only need to make sure the car run as it should. Typical maintenance should be carry out after you own the car

1) Brake fluid = RM80
2) Engine oil = RM50 (up to you wanna use expansive oil, I only use rubbish mineral oil, but changed often)
3) Oil filter = RM8
4) Transmission fluid = RM60
5) Radiator flush = RM60
6) Air con pollen filter wash = DIY - FREE
7) Power steering flush = RM80
8) Full set timing belt and acc belt changed + tensioner = RM300

Total cost of first maintenance= RM618
Total cost of ownership transfer = RM1086

After all that, you already hassle free for 1 whole damn year. Imagine, if you bought the car RM24k from broker/used car, tell told you they already changed the timing belt, will you believe them? If they tell you radiator already flushed, how they flush it? Tap water? Rest assured,tranny fluid/brake fluid all will not be changed. Cause these are the things that nobody cares.

Talking about car's height. I'm only 5'7, but... mellow.gif Read below

QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 2 2012, 09:47 AM)
This morning, after breakfast at nearby mamak stall, finishes my roti telor+pelanta+bawang+pisang+banjir with a glass of the tarek, off I paid money and walk towards my white horse hensem prince GAGA. As I approach, saw a schweet young chick getting down from her black devil GAGA with skirting. For sure I will not let go of this opportunity quickly disarm my alarm(beep!beep!) brows.gif now she realized a white horse hensem prince GAGA is here! Before I get into the car, I purposely start my engine so my vacuum meter will light up. Fuah! Damn "yeng" lo! brows.gif The chick can't help but notice my ride also very attractive, keep starring at my pillar holder. I purposely pretend didn't notice her, I open the door wide, then...

"BANG!!!". ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Bump my head on the door frame :shy: quickly drive away...tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 11 2012, 04:28 PM)
yes, there is a bulk but still pending to do it  blush.gif
u wan claim or normal serbis?
tmn midah is SSH punye SC hor~
if u go tmn midah minor serbis, go around 8am.
ur car should be done in half an hour
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blink.gif SSH means what? The only idea I have in mind is "Sei Sor Haai"

QUOTE(mivecwira @ Sep 11 2012, 09:19 PM)
Guys interested in these.... http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2337845
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Don't! Money flush down the drain!

QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 11 2012, 10:19 PM)
mahihi guiding bery straight forward, u all wont pusing kepala wan...  whistling.gif
u sure or not...  sweat.gif


Added on September 11, 2012, 10:20 pmbtw juz install back ori filter and take put firestorm... omg the vaccum slightly higher thn previous setup.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Explain, higher meaning needle pointing upward or greater value(but needle pointing downward)? hmm.gif

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 11 2012, 10:53 PM)
one of the member tried... but i forgot who... i saw it when RSB TT... the colour will fade one...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Manubis is whistling.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 11 2012, 11:22 PM)
Close enough. Sin Siang Hin.
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 11 2012, 11:28 PM)
prefer the name Sei Sor Haai
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

That's why lar, I was like thinking why they keep on saying bad words SSH service senter or something doh.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 11:59 PM

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My 1st day as a Gabby owner sleep.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 12 2012, 12:00 AM)
Rims don't look like standard ones hmm.gif
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Added on September 12, 2012, 12:22 am
QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 12 2012, 12:00 AM)
Gotta follow Sawi tered for Sawi updates
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It's common knowledge that if you buy national cars especially Proton, be prepared to get it fixed. Things will break, later if not sooner. My 4 years old Proton Savvy was problematic within the first 4 hours of purchase. After I got home from the showroom, I can't turn into reverse gear. That was just the beginning. I had numerous other problems with the car that I simply lost count now.


Interesting stuff that I missed before I buy

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post Sep 12 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 12 2012, 12:26 AM)
Read jor, but what to do. Seems like they're the only guy who's good enough to take care of my red devil sleep.gif any idea how to get there? Appreciate if you can help me find them out. Izit near to koh_424 area?
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 12 2012, 08:38 AM)
i think Unker David want to open museum Proton... : hmm:
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sleep.gif Don't make me post your heartsick stuff that available in Savvy but not on a Saga. I ady explained to Luke, but I dont wanna sound negative here. So I better shut the fuck up for the best of us. Anyway, 1 thing I can never win an argument, Gabby is fugly; GaGa is saxy wub.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 12 2012, 09:31 AM)
Chinese quote: 欲加之罪,何患无辞?
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要用正能量去面对世界。有正能量才能有正能样。

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 12 2012, 09:34 AM)

10. YAB (if you can come but i think datin gonna due soon rite?)(spectate and dance gangnam style)

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Still no sound yet. Already wasted 2 days annual leave sleep.gif Good thing is, GaGa's elder brother Si Merah is home now icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Sep 12 2012, 10:02 AM)
New Japanese cars don't come with autolock liao, including Myvi. Proton had the foresight not to include it in our car in the first place : freak:  : freak: if you believe
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For safety reason, you have to belib in Plotong.
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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 12 2012, 10:25 AM)
I wonder if there are any aftermarket studs that are easier to grip and flushes  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 12 2012, 10:38 AM)
i happened to encounter one sawi yesteday. red one pulak tu. back to page 95. zzzzz...
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What time? I was at Wangsa Maju/MRR2/Tmn Melati area yesterday whistling.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 12 2012, 11:03 AM)
My house nearby got two padang....lol
They purosely design like this.. coz prevent the theif to unlock car with wire...
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How's your day in COSE? Mind to share some info regarding your 4AT? By the way, you still haven't answer me, vacuum goes up as in figure increase? or Needle goes up figure decrease after original air-box?
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 12 2012, 11:31 AM)
Still dunno yet juz now saw at ECU bay area.. now went to service area.. so duno llol

As for vacuum, open pod with firestorm idling 17-19, accerlate usind D will mostly go within 5-8, pedal off 22-24. Now with ori filter without firestorm, idling 15-16 for few sec only start to drop to 17-18, accerlate using D easily off 2-5, pedal off 20-22. sweat.gif
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Oh! So its better to go open pod liao! Farking good excuse already icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 12 2012, 11:42 AM)
Gimme your drop in then  brows.gif
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nod.gif My standard drop in filter still there

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post Sep 12 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 12 2012, 12:37 PM)
i think around 6:00pm something like that. i was at wangsa maju at that time. really that you a?
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Not me then. 6pm my exhaust pipe ruptured! Think I was around Hartamas area that time laugh.gif Ma red devil got a huge ADVAN logo at registration plate thumbup.gif , another huge SPOON logo at the driver side door doh.gif

QUOTE(skydive @ Sep 12 2012, 12:54 PM)
I understand. I was told it is about RM30. Is it difficult to replace? Do I really need to go to SC or can it be done at other workshops?
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Need to dismantle the center console. If you DIY, its free. If go for accessories shop, they normally charge workmanship RM10. The switch, buy from sparepart shop should be RM15. Or, to avoid all hassle, just go straight to accessories shop, ask for price 1st before do. Normally RM30 should do. Save you time and warranty issue(after sales service).

QUOTE(apex_ikan @ Sep 12 2012, 01:15 PM)
just an update after i went to SC this morning

the foreman told me that it is gearbox problem  sad.gif  and to make it even better while i was at there,

there a 5 more car same colour same model flx se white color waiting for same problem.

1 of the owner just use his car for a week. a week. a week zzzz.

it only happened while i press the oil pedal, during idle no osund. apparently they cant give suggestion / solution

yet but so far, the only solution is to order new set of gearbox. According to the foreman this problem is common

for proton cvt (it is?) hmm.gif
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Uncommon. Punch is very reputable transmission manufacturer. I'd say all this is because of the lack of QA from Plotong. Go SiJangKang pusing 1 round, you'll be surprise like 60 cars go in every hour, come back out 60 cars! Imagine, under NORMAL circumstances, should it be atleast 1 or 2 cars need to stay back for further inspection/rework? I don't believe car makers and make their car perfect from the production line. Even Chery need to go through thorough inspection.
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Or may be like this,

Plotong did very good inspection job. Average inspection time 1 minute sharp.

Rear view mirror = tak pecah
Side mirror = Senget
Steering = Run left side
Torsion beam = ada di bawah keta
Spring = Salah part nombor, termasuk Savvy punya spring
Roof top = Not enough anti rust
Shift stick = Sticky, susah mau masuk from L to D
Gearbox = Tak cukup transmission fluid
Engine = Boley start

Rework report:
1) Rear view mirror boley nampak
2) Side mirror senget takisah, nanti owner pon mau ejes mia
3) Alignment is wear & tear, nanti suruh owner bayar
4) Torsion beam sudah pasang
5) Savvy ke, BLM/FL ke, FLX kan semua sama?
6) Sticky shift nanti pakei 1 tahun akan sendiri hilang
7) Tak cukup ATF? Takpe, nanti 1000km sudah mau balek serbis
8) Engine boley stat maka tak rosak

Summary: Kereta WX*9999 keadaan baik dan jugak mengikut spesifikasi Plotong. Semua pemeriksaan lurus SEPERTI BIASA. icon_idea.gif

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post Sep 12 2012, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 12 2012, 02:13 PM)
hmm.gif Actually, you are not far from inspection checklist.
Most complex parts are checked at the assembly area when it is assembled rather than when it had already become a final finished part.
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rolleyes.gif I assume each deprtment got their own QC, and all of them behave the same way. So, when it finally went to QA to perform the final inspection as whole complete car, that's my checklist lor sweat.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 12 2012, 08:13 PM)
Hi Bro...

So sorry 2hear re yr car gotta b "warded"...  sad.gif

Appears nowadays not that fast & easy way of diagnosing car probs.
Hear of so many cases of having 2leave car for few days juz 2"search" for cause of prob, not even the solutions yet.

What abt those car owners who do NOT hv a 2nd car? Like me?
rclxub.gif juz 2even say it here....  sweat.gif

Really gotta touch REAL HARD wood lo...phew... whistling.gif


Added on September 12, 2012, 8:17 pmps. Computerization supposed 2make Life much easier & get things done faster, rite?
But, from looks of things, it is NOT so! Juz the opposite, correct? doh.gif


Added on September 12, 2012, 8:20 pmpps. Looks like Bulk buys not going too well also...not reach min no. yet... sad.gif
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Not computerised fault. It's the heavy technology needed more attention than mechanical. If you compare to those days, when 3AT breakdown, the 1st thing technician would do is take out the whole GB and change another 1. There goes RM1200. If you lucky, technical tell you its recond, give you RM600. The hell we know its only the fork problem, take out torque converter assemble it back can sell RM1200 again whistling.gif You're 1 lucky man who owns a 4G15p for the past 20 years without having trouble with the troublesome 3AT. Only until late 2000's after Iswara 1.5 stopped production sometime, we public able to source for alternative such as refurbish torque converter, hanging clutch pads kind of reparation job(which still cost a bomb).

Computerised does makes life easier. Take a look at OBD2, even end user(currently only limited to FLX SE) can have their own technical reading console via bluetooth. One can easily identify what's wrong with the car(only if they understand what those figure reflects). If somebody able to program the error code into software, it will be even better to have your own error code scanner via bluetooth.

Like it or not, Plotong is still doing their NOT SO competitive job, such as unsure CVT issue that require to change transmission unit. That "faulty" unit probably is going to transfer to other vehicle owner just to make the owner shut up and admit Plotong has no quality after all. If you remember the well known Plotong Wiga 1.6 XLi 4AT, which blown their gearboxes every 3 months? I bet even Plotong themselve not sure whether they're using the correct grade of transmission fluid whistling.gif

Oh and let's not forget, the latest case was our elder brother Sabby AMT. Again Plotong uses normal ATF for the frenchie technology grumble.gif
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QUOTE(saga_911 @ Sep 12 2012, 09:18 PM)
at last...
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post Sep 12 2012, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 12 2012, 09:44 PM)
yawn.gif Slowpoke bro. Kau faham tahi yang ditulis itu?  rclxub.gif
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You mean me slowpoke in finding "old" news? Yes I am. I only start look into Plotong since March this year. If talking about understanding localized Malay language, who doesn't. Just that the blogger didn't even mentioned how that happened, why it happened, what are the effects, and even the photo posted after repair is terbalik doh.gif I'm just saying didn't know the crank sensor also can affect the car to "breakdown" state. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 12 2012, 09:45 PM)
CPS failure causes RPM to surge to 8,000? blink.gif
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Also suspecting whether Kenji's case could be this also. But then he's the ODO also jump up togather laugh.gif

Btw, I link the concept car's white theme lar. Saxy

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