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Investment Ivory Residence @ Mutiara Heights, Kajang, by TLS, share your opinions here

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post Nov 3 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Oct 25 2012, 05:08 PM)
I guess this condo launched now by seeing the ads.  rclxms.gif  Min price 480,800

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den your guess is wrong... A fren just did booking for a less than 400k unit yesterday.. last heard left 60 units... 3rd block not launch yet..
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post Nov 3 2012, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Nov 3 2012, 03:14 PM)
I guess the condo is launched now, not guessing the price. smile.gif
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den your guess also wrong .. it is launch this week, not 25th Oct..

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post Nov 3 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Talbac @ Nov 3 2012, 05:29 PM)
congrats! better to book yesterday than today, today the sale office is crowded!
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1 of the hot prop to buy this year IMHO due to its lower price and building on an upcoming area in Kajang..
This is a newer part of Kajang with surrounded by higher end landed properties ..

This prop easily attracts young buyers who grow up in Kajang.. There are tonnes of younger group living in Kajang n Semenyih.. since new landed now price 400k to 1mil, sub 400k condos is much more easily digested compare to those new launches.. moreover, we are seeing a new wave where younger gen enjoy staying in highrise..

Only thing is the heavy traffic along the mainroad and as of current and its the only access, and also the dangerous U-turn for those who are heading towards Tesco direction. In future, it is safer to build a flyover U turn so that drivers can do U turn by keeping to the left rather than U turn on the faster lane.. Prima Saujana Paparich is one of my favorite hang out and I always have to press hard on my gas when I exit from the U turn since its on the faster lane.. Drivers along the road are crazy, most cars are moving at high speed.. shakehead.gif
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post Nov 3 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Talbac @ Nov 3 2012, 05:54 PM)
It's still early! just launched today!


Added on November 3, 2012, 5:56 pm

you must be quite a coffee person judging by your profile pic. I heard the council is planning for a flyover at Saujana Impian traffic light. That would be awesome, let's just wait for the next election and ask for it. tongue.gif
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That will tremendously ease the traffic along the road and it will become a "true highway" with no traffic light. The currently traffic light is crazy, waiting time is dxmn long... vmad.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(ahloy84 @ Nov 4 2012, 11:33 AM)
anyone owning block A would like to lease your unit?????
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lease?
Ivory demand so good, before completion already got potential tenant..
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QUOTE(Talbac @ Nov 4 2012, 02:45 PM)
I think ahloy84 has eaten some letters. did he mean release?
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lolz... got point...
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post Nov 4 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ahloy84 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:23 PM)
ya.. i mean release.. sorry:D...

anyone anyone.......
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can put ur name under waiting with developer, or wait for block 3
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post Nov 4 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(ahloy84 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:37 PM)
oh... tower A actually selling 15k cheaper than current tower B..... thats a big big diff sad.gif

anyone anyone? i am willing to buy your unit with a token of nasi lemak.....biggrin.gif
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are you sure you can still get back the original block A price when the unit is release to you? hmm.gif

Nasi lemak? nowadays this early bookers request as much as 5k for quick bucks.. lol..

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post Nov 14 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(shawnk @ Nov 14 2012, 12:43 PM)
Not walking distance near but 3-4 KM distance so not bad at all. If you look at its site, it's walking distance close to Giant, McD, PapaRich and etc so it's quite nice to stay compared to other places in Kajang.
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tats quite a lot of walking to do wor.. 900 meters to paparich rclxub.gif
maybe having a bicycle not bad la.. as of now, traffic is not heavy within Prima Saujana..
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post Nov 14 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(iamgoodman @ Nov 14 2012, 03:34 PM)
jus thinking of more convincing points to get a unit in ivory.... 275 psf is cheap but it's in kajang.. I m just thinking how much it can go... and who is our target subsale buyer... for me, I would go for a landed house with same price.. just my ideas... what u guys thinking? any IR buyer here who like to give me some advices.

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likely buying for cap appreciation... rental wise, i dun see how much it can fetch

this is the newer part of kajang where housing are newer and surrounded by much more expensive landed houses.. Amenities near by..

A fren did booked a unit there and did shared with me that this area will be the target area for kajang young and new generation who likes new and better planned housing area.. the other housing development are pocket development located within old areas which are 30 to 40 years old..

I kinna agree with my fren as many of my kajang fren (i m from kajang myself) so called "upgrade" to better housing area like Prima Saujana, Saujana Impian, Villa Saujana, Jelok Impian and Kajang Perdana which are located around that area.. landed props around this area has gone up.. left the cheaper ones which are older ones.. Kajang ppl's perception is that Saujana area are new area..

moreover, new gen likes highrise.. kajang got cheap landed also dun wan bcos its old, no security, (always flood??)
Ivory is one of the 4 (not mistaken) of the current highrise launch after Tiara, Kajang Sentral and Jadehill condo.. with price tag below 400k for 12++sqft BBB

If there is genuine demand for own stay, likely appreciation wise wont be too bad..

Kajang soon will be moving towards highrise when land started to get limited, cheap landed only available in semenyih or old bangi..

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post Nov 14 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Prophunter @ Nov 14 2012, 09:37 PM)
Most younger generation tend to choose new property because of the "new" factor, discounts everything and they dont mind paying extra for that. everything will be in the loan

Hence the reason why they choose this condo compared to the other landed subsales.

One of the reason why and of course this is my opinion
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paying extra?? such as??

buying new prop has its advantages.. lesser fixture.. can do reno from the beginning tat suit your taste
buying old house you might need to rework on fixing aging stuff light cabling, pipes, tiles, replace old rotten cabinets.. you might not like some of the older renovation style and spending rm50k to rm200k rework the whole house.. or just stay in as it is, leveraging on existing renovation..
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QUOTE(iamgoodman @ Nov 14 2012, 10:40 PM)
his "paying extra" meaning that normal kajang properties should stay at 200psf, due to its New factor, so we pay 275psf now... smile.gif is it true ah??
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i dont get what does it mean by "should stay", property price is market driven... as long as paying at market price, then its reasonable.. its just supply and demand..

200psft for kajang was 2 years ago which was pearl residence at that time..

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post Nov 14 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Prophunter @ Nov 14 2012, 11:01 PM)
Yeah, mostly about that. What i meant is not the olddd houses. My point here is 5 years old is considered old.

Well heres the case,

http://www.mudah.my/2+sty+at+saujana+impia...ng-18918337.htm

A 2 storey nearby house landed will fetch around RM398k Nego maybe can get RM370k.

Ask a fresh grad on which one shall they go for. I bet 70% or more will go with the new condo because of the NEW factor. Although around the same price, a new property will definitely be more attractive to the newer gens
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aside new, its about financing, start up cost, package, location, amenities, transport, road network, lifestyle, security, layout etc

it depends wat one look for.. maybe buyers dont like the layout, dun like the location and feel not worth to buy.. different ppl value it differently

summore brader, its a bumi lot...
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post Nov 15 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(NoDoubt Leong @ Nov 14 2012, 11:40 PM)
Hi, I booked my unit on d eve of launching day and just got my loan approved today by Maybank. For u guys still 50/50 out there, Chinese has a phrase "rob while it's hot"... I've been regret 4 years ago when I decided not to proceed with 'the zest @ bk9 ' puchong, which the subsale price shot up by almost 80% by now... Bare in mind, 4 years ago bk9 is nothing but just a piece of land neighbouring kinara golf club and facing a industrial area. But today bk9 is well developed with those gated community like semi d, double/triple storey and high rise condo... So guys, tunggu apa lagi???


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Ya I agreed, I'll go for a NEW factor!!! Just like Desa Park City or SP Setia Eco Park...
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i own a unit of Zest 1 phase.. hav to say there r still room to go up despite it has appreciated by 100%.. but thats the market price now since valuation hit 400psft.. its not yet mature as more infra and amenities in bjalil n puchong coming up such as lrt, wct megamall, hohup mix development, berjaya mix development, n new development near kinrara army camp.. yea, i for once nearly pullout due to poor economy n rumours of cemetery in bjalil..

no worries bro, investment opportunity is everywhere.. wink.gif .. hav u look into bukit jalil? tat area gonna boom..
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QUOTE(Talbac @ Nov 15 2012, 01:48 PM)
If you were to compare the appreciation rate between Puchong Cheras and Kajang, given that the developer is reputable, the appreciation of Puchong and Cheras were tremendous, even better than Kajang a couple of years back.

But now is a different story because Puchong and Cheras already very matured, the high appreciation already realised. Buying Kajang now is better as it is still comparatively cheap and still much room to grow.

Saujana Impian, Prima Saujana, Kajang Groove & Mutiara Heights are all directly accessible via Jalan Cheras highway, hence it is more of an extension of Cheras rather than Kajang itself, (9mins from Phoenix Plaza, and also can arrive without going into Kajang town) making it the most strategic location in Kajang.
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totally agree..
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post Nov 16 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 16 2012, 04:04 PM)
Kajang Sentral

I have also done some finding.

kajang  Sentral is build on hill slope wo......hill slope is low land meah? The acess is limited meah? just next to silk highway wo. Ivory is so jam on the persiaran saujana, so many traffic light and slow moving track/lorry. ( unless the silk highway open on the palm walk section)

not walking distance meah? very subjective la. . I have try wo. Walk on this kajang sentral, go to this dsl taman, and follow the road next to the rail track.

not walking distance meah? very subjective la. . I have try wo. Walk on this kajang sentral, go to this dsl taman, and follow the road next to the rail track.

to avoid the subjective. like your "  at least 20 minutes"

In Malaysia basic rules is  "usually less than 1km we generally saying is walking distance "

check this    " Only 700m away from the KTM and the upcoming KVMRT station  from http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/d...w.aspx?pid=2433   "

Jade Hill.

if you are saying 380 is expensive... U will notice in next launch price will be 480 psf and maybe also selling like hot cake like Ivory  Residence.


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Kajang Sentral, to be honest, the area is really turned off for me... Silkhighway, u need to do a U-turn almost reaching kajang prima.. Jam? do you know how Jam jalan bukit is during peak hour? Jalan bukit school + KTM and 1 way per direction...

Jade hill ah... ppl come kajang look for affordable house, tats y affordable houses are fast grabbing than Highend.. for jadehill service apartment price, can get a nice condo near KL.. ppl buy kajang bcos looking fro value for money mah...

for some reason, I was pretty turned off by kajang sentral location.. my fellow kajang fren "upgrade" to prima saujana, saujana impian area due to better planning, more newer amenities...

having born and live in kajang all my life, I can accept Ivory, maybe jade hill condo (if its lower price abit) but not kajang sentral..

Ivory - new condo among new development area and new township/housing area, surrounded by much up market landed prop, more newer amenities, banks, giant
Kajang sentral - pathetic Silk highway access which need to do blardy far u-turn, jalan bukit narrow, pocket development surrounded by 30-40 year old Taman Bukit, Catholic graveyard behind..

my2c..

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 16 2012, 04:46 PM)
The traffic jam and the ammenities is very subjective. I can't comment much.

Kajang Sentral Ammenities is at jalan reko, if u go kajang town sure is jam but if you travel to  Seremban / putrajaya/ cheras/ KL - the acess is highway = good

The jadehill have many ways to go out to highway

The Ivory. You only have pesiaran saujana. It is so jam with the traffic light and the hill plus the slow moving lorry and vehcile not follow rules. but alos very subjective.

I just wanted to say. U can't compare Ivory with Kajang sentral  ( have Mrt) and the jadehill ( high end) on price below 300psf.

The MRT is easy to rent out and the jadehill is they don't build second aprtment other than jadites and have great demand from ppl working in nearby univesity / hospital

Among the three. I am on rental play, my selection is 1) jadehill ,2) Kajang sentral and  3) Ivory.

I already say. Ivory is selling like hot cake, kanajng sentral so so, jadehill soft launch already sapu 95% ( waiting AP , in think)

I don't live in kajang. I just moved to balakong recently.
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likely cap play than rental in kajang.. yes, KS looks slightly more promising on rental, but i doubt it can generate good cashflow, no point looking at rental yield around this region.. 350k need rm1.7k/month, if you think feasible you may proceed
thus myself just concentrate on cap play if I ever wanna invest in Kajang.. rental abit hopeless..
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 16 2012, 04:46 PM)
But I think 700meter  is not walkable, Buill on hill slope is low land, next to highway =difficult to acess is wrong la. ( for sentral)
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walkable is 1 think... try to walk along jalan bukit from KTM to Kajang Sentral, try tat at night, you will know wat i mean bro...
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 16 2012, 04:58 PM)
cap play?

don't play paly....on this jadites product.
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yes.. JH didnt do well in kajang interms of cap play..

JH Bukit Angkat...
Garden terrace 2009 700k, 2012 950k

Saujana site...
Saujana Villa 2009 700k, 2012 1.2mil
Jelok impian 2009 250k, 2012 450k

thats y i m more bullish on Saujana side..
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QUOTE(Talbac @ Nov 16 2012, 05:22 PM)

Walking distance's journey time is relative, the path walking towards the future station is not very pedestrian friendly, with steep slopes, missing walking path, and old quiet residential road which didn't feel safe, hence maybe iheartchannel says it feels like '20minutes' even though it is only 1km.

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Talbac seems know wat i am talking about.. nod.gif
its not about the distance, there is more to it..

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