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noblebaby
post Dec 12 2012, 11:21 AM

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Congrats for the purchase, welcome to Cyber! Pangaea is a very unique development. Nice thing always has good demand. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Chong1980 @ Dec 12 2012, 10:31 AM)
Hi guys, i just bought a high floor unit at Solstice @ Pangaea Cyberjaya. For investment not for own staying. Any advices?
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post Dec 13 2012, 09:38 AM

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Landed is not only getting expensive, but FH landed is getting scarce... and the land side for landed is getting smaller and smaller, look at those zero-lot bungalow, although it is called bungalow but actually look like terrace.

QUOTE(MrHunter @ Dec 12 2012, 07:51 PM)
Correct. It is not easy. But we are talking about phase 1 after commercial is up. So it could be slightly easier than what we are seeing now in 3yrs time. Having said that, your hypothetical scenarios are not comprehensive enough to cover entire population here. It should 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9..... to cover eg. single who work in cbj, couple both work in cbj without kid, couple one work in cjb one in kajang without kid, couple one work in cjb, one work in puchong/serikembangan/shah alam/Sepang, Pilot or those travel frequently etc. While there are ppls care about foods or taichi but there are also many don't care about this (like me, my wife is fantastic chef). So, there can be many different scenarios that can be favoured to and infavoured to cbj.

Anyway, as i said earlier it will be taking time. I realised nowadays ppls are more mobile than the generation before. I stayed and moved to many places in Klang Valley over years like ampang, cheras, kajang, PJ ss2, subang etc. Ppls will try to improve their standard of living in term of lifestyle or move from shit to better place. And Lifestyle, for different ppls will be different definition..it can be in term of house itself, environment surrounding the housing development, food, shopping mall, traffic, distance to work, density etc. A township will attract those who meet their requirement. Sometimes, it is difficult to assume a  place that can fullfill ALL ppls requirements. Every place sure ada their fans. Just like me, I never think that SA is livable 3years ago. But now, it is in pretty good shape (though i still won't live there). So, let's see and  revisit this in 3-5years time, it shall give us different perspective (good or bad time will tell).


Added on December 12, 2012, 7:56 pm
Yes highrise seems to be the theme of development. But, landed is getting expensive which means many have no choice but to settle with highrise. When we look at oversupply, we need to know the yearly expansion of population from newbies too. But surely, for specific area, i see oversupply of highrise that can be an issues in term of competition for flipper or rental market. I am more concern on shoebox apartment.
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post Dec 13 2012, 09:50 AM

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wah nice!

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 13 2012, 09:41 AM)
Setia Eco Glades Project appeared in Home Finder magazine.
http://issuu.com/homefinder/docs/sept-oct?...Mode=doublePage
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post Dec 13 2012, 03:58 PM

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must have lots of luck too tongue.gif

QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 13 2012, 03:28 PM)
Island unit is superb. Must buy for the rich like u.
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post Dec 13 2012, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Dec 13 2012, 06:17 PM)
Superman is going to cyberjaya wink.gif
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:33 PM

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I m also eyeing unit on island hehe
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:37 PM

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I have friends from singapore who spent 5-6mio on klcc condo... now keep making noise say canot sell high n rental is bad...

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 13 2012, 10:30 PM)
Unless you alr have a long term tenant when buying over the existing unit else i would suggest u to reconsider la bro.
The owner can ask for any price however the transacted rental is always diff ler..... dun forget in KLCC area, the occupancy rate is only 50-60% and these expat are quite mobile. They always move into new condo since there are plenty of supply but little of demand in KLCC area biggrin.gif

Asking price is always lots of diff with actual rented price that one i can assure yo
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:39 PM

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If u have bullet, buy singapore. Rental sure good.

QUOTE(AMINT @ Dec 13 2012, 10:34 PM)
thanks for the input soros007. how about seri maya, maytower? i need to balance out my portfolio. right now a bit heavy on landed.
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:48 PM

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Around 4%. Considered good compared to almost 0% interest for saving acc

Mass market condo can fetch better rent.

QUOTE(AMINT @ Dec 13 2012, 10:43 PM)
which development, bro? what is thr price and ROI?
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:54 PM

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Hope SP offers area with connected living n dinning.

Actuslly m looking for unit with living +dinning area of >10m×5m. Double volumn ceiling will be good.

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 13 2012, 10:44 PM)
Bro, i am sorry that i cant really share much with u abt these prop.
From what i noticed, the affordability in KLCC is generally Rm4-5K only thus u may work backward to find the correct prop.
Landed > not good for rental but good in appreciation ma kekeke......

Added on December 13, 2012, 10:46 pmGood la bro i wish you very good luck to get an islands unit biggrin.gif
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:56 PM

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Yalor. Here a small 3 bedroom unit at Marina Bay can get $15k per month.

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 13 2012, 10:48 PM)
Hahaha..... Quality of expat in KL is very much different to SGP that's for sure!
Many expats in M'sia are from India, phillipines, Thailands, Indonesia etc howvever those in SGP are from US, Aus, UK, Canada etc......
can't complain lor biggrin.gif
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post Dec 13 2012, 10:59 PM

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This is also the reason I vested in KL Eco City, unit on the super high floor. Expats like high floor with view.

QUOTE(oreomambo @ Dec 13 2012, 10:54 PM)
Expats in Msia doesn't necessarily have to be concentrated in KL or area around KLCC. MNC companies are spread across klang valley. Mid Valley Gardens, Bangsar, Cyberjaya, KL Sentral..etc. So not necessarily the expats will be paying premium just to stay near KLCC and still enjoy the standstill traffic.

Also Expats in SG are mostly for APAC regional operations compared to msia.
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post Dec 13 2012, 11:06 PM

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Marina bay area is for the super rich. 4 bedder with view asking more than $10mio.

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 13 2012, 10:59 PM)
S$ 15K x 2.5 = Rm 37.5K.....
Not sure how many MNCs in M'sia willing to pay this???
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post Dec 13 2012, 11:07 PM

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Cyberjaya is still cheap. Iskandar is already more expensive than cyber. Bungalow from 4mio

QUOTE(dRwh0 @ Dec 13 2012, 10:59 PM)
I got this invitation..any idea what is it for..?developer promoting subsales unit..?
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post Dec 14 2012, 11:17 AM

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Don't over leverage, always prepared for the worst...


Added on December 14, 2012, 11:25 ami am still looking to buy a landed in East-Ledang, maybe retire there coz too used to the life in Singapore. and easier to manage the properties in Singapore.

QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 14 2012, 09:36 AM)
Iskandar is only good for Singaporean as retirement home.
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post Dec 14 2012, 08:19 PM

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East Ledang n Leisure farm r my favorite.

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lol they got perdana lake view west view ler LOL


Added on December 14, 2012, 6:05 pm
nice place la.
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post Dec 14 2012, 08:52 PM

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Good lobang every where, especially during "crisis"... I bought one condo at $750k, ppls said I m crazy coz the condo no mrt, far from city, no amenities, etc.. 4 yrs later, new mrt line announced with a station 100m from the condo, cafe n restaurants coming up. Current market valuation around 1.45mio n rented out at $4.3k a month. Lolz.

Now not good doesnt mean it is bad in the future. Must hav vision.

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 14 2012, 02:10 PM)
How low is your below market price bro?

Added on December 14, 2012, 2:29 pmJust to share with you some of my personal experiences:-
1). My cousin bought hampshire park with a really good deal - Rm1.7mil+ for a 3000ft2+ which market price is RM3.0mi~ due to couple divorcing (sorry to them).
2). My uncle bought a 3 storey bungalow next door at Rm2.0mil which the market price is Rm3.0mil+ due to couple divorcing too.
3). I bought a bungalow in Aus at AUD 700K while the market price was AUD 900K due to owner extremely struggle for mismanagement in her financial planning.
4). One of my best friends bought Mutiara Villa (2-3 units) at price below Rm200K from Singaporean in 00's although market price then was Rm300K~ as this SGP BZman needs $$$ urgently.

Sometimes, you just never know when is the good deal appeared? Keep searching and be ready to snap quick.
So, never said never. Life is full of surprises wor!
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post Dec 15 2012, 11:39 AM

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GR is further from the central, near to the gas storage, concept not as good as SEG.

Normally the first batch who rush in to buy majority is chinese for investment... followed by other races who buy mainly for own stay...

QUOTE(Jordonyapvm @ Dec 15 2012, 10:48 AM)
The thing is, many sellers are not desperate and are willing to hold out until a buyer comes along that meet their target price. There is no crisis, as yet to pressure the sales.


Added on December 15, 2012, 10:53 amThe recent launch for SEG has got me thinking. A semi D of 3000 sq ft is priced at RM1.7 mil( albeit a slightly bigger land area) whereas a completed one at GR only cost RM1.2 mil for subsales. Why are people still queing up at SEG? If it's for own stay, I can understand but for investment, it really baffles me....
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post Dec 15 2012, 11:40 AM

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Hoping to see good quality population growth, not only cyber but the entire malaysia.

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 15 2012, 12:01 AM)
Congratulations bro!
Not many ppl has the vision like u I would said so.
Just gotta enjoy the process of finding good lubang hahaha.... Happy hunting biggrin.gif

Added on December 15, 2012, 12:02 amMind to share your vision 2020 abt cyber?
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post Dec 15 2012, 11:41 AM

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I dun like the location of GR... and dun hav good feeling during my visit there...

QUOTE(dRwh0 @ Dec 15 2012, 11:30 AM)
Ive been to gr before..no doubt its cheaper compare to other project..but i think the floor plan is a bit weird and not practical..
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