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post Jan 1 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 1 2013, 09:10 PM)
Bro, not going to repeat the same post again here.
All my personal opinions about cyber were recorded in this LYN (kindly use search function for all the posts that i made previously).
In summary, if you are a long term prop investor then YES especially the landed prop even though the pricing is already more than Rm1.0mil. If we compare the price with respect to DPC, there is still some big gap to be reached. For short term investment or flipper, you may want to stay away from cyber as most of us think cyber will be 'ong' in year 2017-2020 when most of the commercial activities are mature (skypark, pangaea, Perdana CBD 3, Promenade @8 waterfront shopping mall putrajaya, IOI resort city etc).

For me in summary,
1). F/H residential GnG with good concept is not much in klang valley.
2). Great accessibilities (20mins to KLCC via MEX, 15mins to IOI resort city mall via SKVE, 15 mins to puchong downtown via LDP, 20 mins to KLIA via ELITE). I know some KLCC professional, KLIA pilots and stewardess, IBM / Shell senior managers and Malaysian who works in Singapore bought SEG / SH.
3). Pricing is half of DPC, 30-40% lower than sime darby The Glades / MCT kingsley hills (15 mins drive away) -  i did a pricing comparison for all landed prop in cyber previously.
4). Existing workforce in cyber (I.T industry) who will be the 1st batch potential users (yes, many still may not want to live in cyber now as no lifestyle as commented - but i think once commercial is mature this may change). however, if you read through this thread, you may find that alot of taikos here who is not working in cyber but just love the living environment.
5). Overall klang valley development is moving south which benefits cyber.
6). City is expanding outskirt no matter what due to increasing population (imagine that projects like setia eco hill in semenyih, kajang 2, bangi etc).

Just my 2 cents to share here and wish u good luck hunting.
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U can be a top sales! Serious!

Most important, Soros007 is speaking the truth. Good to have long term investor like Soros007, noblebaby...

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post Jan 1 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 1 2013, 09:38 PM)
What about comparison to USJ heights, subang heights, Ara Damansara?
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Brother, if u are looking @ USJ Heights, I have an unit to sell.

Not my unit. Since u are asking here. Maybe have some luck to make some side income.

http://www.propwall.my/uep_subang_jaya/usj_heights

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post Jan 2 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(kmfong @ Jan 2 2013, 07:46 AM)
actually i had invest in pangaea solstic that why i want to know the situation of bz about cyber .thx all of you to given personal view especially soros bro. if any new info pls share with lyn.ok.wish ur guys have a very happy new year 2013
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Do note that most of us are landed kaki.

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post Jan 2 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 2 2013, 09:25 AM)
i went to visit USJ heights too, dont like, high voltage cable line is very near to the development.

i also dont like the Glades as well, workmanship is worst than Symphony hills. and LRT line is next to development. Those who paid high and bought those corner units sure cry  cry.gif

Added on January 2, 2013, 9:26 amYah, buy liao then dont look at it anymore. come back in 5-6 years.  tongue.gif
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One very important note, Cyberjaya has MANY HERs, when comparing to others.

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post Jan 2 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 2 2013, 10:56 AM)
Wah lau eh... suddenly i feel very paiseh now....... share share cyber info and all of us HUAT together ma.

Disclaimer: I do not work for Setia Haruman to sell prop in Cyber smile.gif
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My disclaimer: I am working in Singapore, NOT in properties sector. Haha.

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post Jan 2 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(spydermind @ Jan 2 2013, 01:56 PM)
Almost most of the online forum that i have seen so far, mainly discussing Cyber as a location or neighbourhood instead of just individual project.

Cyber had gone through a very rough cycle. From the very beginning, the association with MSC making it one of the most high profile project that attracts a lot of attention and spotlight. 4 major developers were engaged to jointly develop this place.

more than 10 years past,  a lot of people are dissappointed and this is fully udnerstandable, simpley because the expectation was really high, so it is kind of relative that people are expecting more.

I fully agree. Those early investors (especially those who has not sold their property) , even though not fully happy with the capital gain, but seriously, over the past 10 years, really no complain on the rental yield. 10%-15% yield is possible on condo rental

2-3 years ago, that was the beginningin of the in rush of project or developer into this township. Same like those who like T brand or H brand of cars, they will guarantee you that the car from these 2 companies would command the highest second hand value. In this case, there are people that will guarantee you that "Prices of property in Cyberjaya will not increase" ...in order words, not good for short or mid term flippers/investors. See it yourself today. Of course, no one can guarantee non-stop price increase as this is very much within the nature of demand-supply situation.

Also, a lot of the people who have not been to cyberjaya for years , or dont understand cyberjaya or confuse between cyber and putra, etc. So, go there and have a look......No pork? SOmeone must be kidding, i just had pork there last week, on a recently opened restaurant. 

Drive around there, check the master plan ......

Personally i wont compare it to DPC as DPC has minimum job opportunity wihtin but it mainly established it self as a premium option for people working around KL or PJ.

Cyber has got commercial and job opportunity.....well, who knows eventually when it is more developped, maybe it will not be as nice to stay ....

Over supply issues had been discussed again and again especially all the launches within the past few years....I wrote in another post that it will have more than 5000-6000 residential in the next 3-5 years , and those are mainly service apartments or smaller condo unit. But then again, if the commercial situation is not favorable by then, yes, it will be oversupply.....but if the commercial impact is still there and continuing to grow....then i reckon that it might not be enough residential development there. By then, new launches will take a couple of years more to be completed to fill the gaps.

LAst point, so far, most of the residential project especially landed are mainly medium to high end type with G&G, facilities, etc ....so dont expect these to be cheap ...of course, I do hope that more affordable landed could be built but sometimes, the cost of buidling will force the develop to go highend landed or multi dwelling unit (Condo) to maximize the value .
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Brother, are u one of our neighbour? Buying any of the Cyberjaya HERs?

Wonder if I can get another new launch super link @ Cyberjaya for RM 800k.


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post Jan 2 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 2 2013, 03:20 PM)
the problem with Malaysia property is the poor maintenance.... i visted Vista Komanwel last week, although there are some upgrading work going on but still look bad compared to 5-6 years ago. Student residences... dirty, and unsafe, many broke in.... asking 400k... the new development KM1 is selling at 800k.
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the problem with Malaysia property is the poor maintenance....
>>> Agreed.

People who play low to medium cost properties are aware of this, even the yield is attractive but the price appreciation is capped.


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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:08 PM)
Thanks bro noblebaby for the excellentt quality of cyberjaya master plan!

Extracted from the legend:
1). Perumahan kos rendah = 0.55%
2). Perumahan mampu milik = 2.44%
3). Perumahan kos tinggi = 14.25%
4). Perumahan bercampur = 3.2%
5). Perumahan telah dibangunkan (kos tinggi) = 1.05%
Jumlah kecil = 21.49%

As such, (1.05+14.25) / 21.49 x 100% = 71.19% of residential prop in cyber is HIGH END RESIDENTIAL!!!
Is this make sense why 1st phase of landed in most projects are asking > RM1.0mil+?
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When 1 Malaysia Home is selling RM 400k, RM 1 M HERs will be everywhere.

Expect Damansara properties asking RM 2 M now, will hit RM 3 M in 8 years.

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post Jan 2 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jan 2 2013, 09:22 PM)
Hmmm, CBJ was build as a fort for MSC investments.

If the are is converted to residential area, do you think it will still prosper with foreign investments?

Apa pendapat anda?
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Cyberjaya is no longer target foreigner, Iskandar IS, almost ALL properties project in Iskandar does NOT have foreigner quota.

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post Jan 2 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 2 2013, 09:45 PM)
the problem with Malaysia property is the poor maintenance....
>>> Agreed.

People who play low to medium cost properties are aware of this, even the yield is attractive but the price appreciation is capped.
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This is why I think Malaysia rental yield not worth to play, u stand a high chance to face many lousy tenants.

Compare to Singapore, people here is kiasi, Ah Gong is everything & law is very strict, tenant dare not play dirty tricks with u.

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Jan 2 2013, 11:53 AM)
Hi AVFAN,

Nice info, albeit no entirely correct. Based from my observation via google map (bold was the winner in terms of distance):-
SP Setia Eco Hill to KL: 39 km
Rawang to KL: 32 km

SP Setia Eco Hill to PJ: 45 km
Rawang to PJ: 35 km

SP Setia Eco Hill to Putrajaya: 25 km
Rawang to Putrajaya:63 km

SP Setia Eco Hill to Cyberjaya: 34 km
SP Setia Eco Hill to Cyberjaya: 69 km

SP Setia Eco Hill to KLIA: 43 km
Rawang to KLIA: 89 km
Overall, SP Setia Eco Hill Semenyih has an advantage for workers in Putrajaya/Cyberjaya and KLIA. Rawang has slight advantage for workers in KL and PJ (nearer by 7 - 10 km). However, comparing Semenyih to Rawang was probably like comparing then U.S. President Lyndon Johnson (Texas Southern) with then U.S. President JFK (Nothern Massachusetts). I would say Semenyih will be a hotspot for the southern KL growth corridor, while Rawang may be a hotspot for the northern KL.

The SP Setia name, combined with the affordable housing and the strategic access to the southern Klang Valley draws a fundamental interest for the first time home buyers and for the real-estate investors.

Note that in Kajang (about 7km from Semenyih), top developer TTDI Grove, Kajang residential houses were sold-out in less than six months, while mid-tier developer MKH Hillpark, Kajang residential houses were sold-out less than nine months. So I suggest you may want to rethink your statement about "if uem, talam or even sime is doing it, will it get same interest?", as Semenyih was not far away from Kajang.

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KL > PJ > Cyberjaya > Semenyih > Seremban...

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post Jan 3 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 3 2013, 08:39 AM)
Not a PR in Singapore. If buying a private condo Ah Gong charging 10% stamp duty for nothing - wtf! biggrin.gif
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We PR Ah Gong also charge 3%. !@#$%^&*()

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 3 2013, 01:36 PM)
It's 3% rebate + london trip for the 2nd unit as told by SEG SA.
The rest i am not sure.
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If relative & friend buy entitle?

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QUOTE(oreomambo @ Jan 3 2013, 01:51 PM)
Those are for left over units of Liu Li and Lepironia. From what i know, 3% rebate for buying 2nd unit for Lepironia , or 2% for Liu Li.

3% for Lepironia is almost a 50k rebate and taken off from the 10% dp. Provided if you are buying the 2nd unit. Incentive only targeting a very narrow group of soros class individuals.

Bro Soros, did u miss the boat?
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jan 3 2013, 01:55 PM)
just curious... Setia Eco Glades units are individual title or strata? Renovation of building exterior allowed?
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Stata. Exterior renovation not allowed.

Like. Afraid neighbours run into renovation race. Haha.

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post Jan 4 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 3 2013, 03:16 PM)
For Lepironia Garden, last update till X'mas.
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Unit #1 to #4 (too close to guardhouse), ~6 units that is same row with club house (the back facing main roads / MCT lakefront), units #31- 34 (too close to the condo / roundabout).

The rest of Grasilis layout - semua habis smile.gif

Added on January 3, 2013, 4:15 pm10% might as well buy Aus prop.
Every 8 years the prop price in Aus is double up somemore rental is guarantee!
Most importantly - too many ppl migrating to Kangaroo land and housing is always shortage biggrin.gif
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I have a friend staying in Perth CBD new condo, the build up size is about 1200 sqft, price asking about AUD 1.2 M.

Weekly rental = AUD 1300
Yearly rental = AUD 1300 x 52 = AUD 67600
Yield = 67600 / 1200000 x 100% = 5.63%

When comparing to Singapore, it looks very cheap.
When comparing to HongKong, it looks like peanut.

BUT Australia interest rate is quite high about 7%?

Anyway we are not big player like u, we simply need to make use of our CPF to invest. This is why Singapore become our first choice, especially the interest rate about 1% is low. Believe it will stay for the next 4 years.

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Jan 3 2013, 04:29 PM)
hehehe.... Yalor...i am sure that after Bro noblebaby shopping in pavillion then driving from MEX hwy > Lingkaran Putrajaya > Persiaran Bestari > Symphony Hills in less than 25 mins biggrin.gif
Dont think the internal road will serve SEG residence only la.
Facing guardhouse has no privacy la. Facing main road is noisy but has extra 80' orchard garden (can plant durian n campaing) + sounds barrier wall..ok gua?
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Honestly, if u are outdoor, 80 feet is not enough. Tried this in Sri Damansara SD 7 beside LDP last week.

No choice, I will have to spend some money to sound proof indoor.

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QUOTE(segcloud @ Jan 3 2013, 10:02 PM)
superlink@Cyberjaya for RM 800K? Wait if there is any auction unit.
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MCT Lakefront no chance too?

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QUOTE(chloelingeelin @ Jan 4 2013, 01:32 AM)
How long have they been in Cyberjaya?

How is their business, getting better & better?


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