Found this on the EU forums. Man i hope the devs are reading this.

Sadow power is a defacto skill. Personally I NEED it because of reflect damage affix, even the 3% life steal
of nether tentacles is not enough, I will still hurt myself badly killing these. In top500 dps demon hunter, 99% uses this skill, and of those 96.5% uses gloom. It is quite
easy to understand why. Demon hunter still have the weakest survivability, and perhaps thats how it supposed to be. However, with some tweaks
to shadow power I believe we could see some more diversity in the runes picked.

The figures I've picked are somewhat arbitary

Base Shadow Power
Draw in the power of the shadows, gaining 25% damage reduction and 15% of all damage done as Life for 5 seconds.
I have added damage reduction here because that, together with life steal is what we all need, it is slightly less than what you ged with gloom
rune today, and much less than what you did get pre patch.

Night Bane
Personally, I'd love it if this was just as powerful as WotB but that would be dreaming I guess. I'd settle for one of the four buffs barbs get
so either
Increase critical hit change by 10% or Attack speed 25%
(instead of useless 3 hatred per second)

Blood Moon
Increases damage done as Life to 25%.

Well of Darkness
Increase the duration to 8 seconds

Gloom
Increase the damage reduction to 40% (I've increased this, because I think the gloom nerf was too harsh)

Shadow Glide
Gain 30% bonus to movement speed while Shadow Power is active.

Or am I totally wrong?

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Added on January 1, 2013, 6:51 pm

Horrible latency and lags. The vid doesn't do justice to BL but hopefully is clear enough.

This post has been edited by 2890: Jan 1 2013, 06:52 PM

It's like watching an animated gif...

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Added on January 1, 2013, 8:41 pmYup, reflect is unbeatable by high dps demon hunters unless shadow power is used.

If you want to break even with 3% life steal, you need 9700 armor & 970 AR. With 6% life steal (perhaps from dual wielding lifesteal hand crossbows or using nether tent), you need 6000 armor & 600 AR.

Consider this - before they buffed RD to be undodgeable, an average DH with 45% dodge chance will just need 3600 armor & 360 AR to break even with 6% life steal.

I'll be happy to see the RD nerf when it comes out

eh zero hatred generator build? interesting.

and u combined strafe + BL. How and why do u do it?

and btw, yeah that's what i wanted to show with BL. Nice one!



This post has been edited by 2890: Jan 1 2013, 09:15 PM

I used to do Alk runs like that with BL but I think a long the way I started to like MS. Maybe I find it more convenient or psychologically it makes me feel like I'm doing my runs faster.

On the subject of RD, what really boggles me is how long it took them to realize that it's a broken mechanic in the sense that ' health link RD does more unusual damage then the normal RD's ' . People have been reporting this in the bug forums for quite sometime and only when it began as a big discussion in General Disc, they started to actually look into it. Now, I may not have issues with RD with gloom that is but when I'm doing a run and the 1st 6 elites are RD, clearly there's something wrong. It seems that after they took out invulnerable, they replaced it with RD mobs. I know it's random generator and all but it's happened too many times. I hope they don't over nerf RD to the point where its not challenging.

Actually I just wanted to have a bit of fun with video tonight. The recording is gorgeous isn't it? I used bandicam to record it at 720p60, then converted it to H264 with Handbrake/x264 and Webm with ffmpeg.

The think about RD + health link is that other classes don't seem to have a problem with it. I did raise it up here but no one seems to care and some felt it wasn't an issue.

The thing with RD + health link is that is not going to affect you unless you have lots of DPS. But yeah, i'm past the RD is a problem for me scene already. I really think they should bring back invulnerable minions man or at least make new mobs.

Affixes like waller is not challenge it is annoying. The affix that provides a challenge currently is frozen affix on higher MP.

Question on MF here.

Isn't it kinda retarded that the best place to farm for legendaries are on like MP1 and 2? I mean say you have 300k DPS and if legendaries drop rates are in no ways being MF dependent why on earth would a player with such DPS plays MP3 or 4 or even 5? or does that white mobs bonus thing plays a part?

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Added on January 1, 2013, 9:58 pmTeach me how? why do i lag horribly when i record? I'm using a pretty high end mac and it can't be that horrible to game on a mac right?

and yeah, looks much better than other bandicam recordings

This post has been edited by 2890: Jan 1 2013, 09:59 PM

I don't know. Maybe you can use bootcamp just for screen recording It's probably cheaper than buying one of these: http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/h264prorecorder/

Another video test. This time I enabled anti-aliasing and increased video quality (texture/shadow/fx).

izzit u playing in that video? if yes mind to share your build and how much ur dps?

dude, ur recordings are gorgeous. Im jealous!

Here - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/doubleu...84/hero/3112342 - I'm at about 200k dps

Hey WKkay, you have really nice skills..

Looks like can speed up farming time alot, will try tml.
Here my noob dh: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/denon91...0/hero/23127477

wKkay, share more la. I never felt vengeance + NS is a good sync but today after seeing u flip so much and yet maintain your DISC pool, i'm impressed.

This post has been edited by 2890: Jan 1 2013, 10:57 PM

Ooo..rd+health link is a pain? no wonder sometimes my barb dies on RD while I'm hota-ing....

wkkay play cheat one... copy my BL+strafe combo!!! but its ok la... pls add me one star in lyn.. xie xie

U have 7 stars. U want more? Haha..

Anyway yeah, health link and rd sucks for LS builds which means almost everyone.

I remember I used to think "is this guy serious" when I saw you use strafe in my game

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Added on January 1, 2013, 11:18 pmYeah having more sources of disc regen is good. But it doesn't help tayar pancit moments when you run into a dead end and spend your whole disc pool + prep to vault back to the right path - only a larger disc pool will help with that :\

Wkkay video recording + 1, strafe build speed farming + 1. I actually tried strafe build and I have to admit it was quite fun. Maybe should go back to it. Imagine using Legacy Nats with vengeance and NS..... You'll never ever run out of DISC...

OMG. shenlongs + chantodo just drop from same mob! i almost woke up the entire house