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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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Gecko
post Nov 19 2012, 01:06 PM

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Tried out the DW setup with 4.7% LS on mp6 uber 4-player game and my health went down slowly when shooting SB (only use Gloom when my health is 50% and got back up vry fast). My guess is with 6% LS , RD on SB can mitigated w/out using Gloom at all.
Now i need to get a Reflection with CC roll to boost my DPS back up. I didnt realise when i ditched DML i lost 20% ias (i thought im only losing dex/vita/cc). My dps went down from 128k to 110k. Lost of ias really affected my disc regen so i hope to get my hands on a Reflection ASAP.
Once i obtain a Reflection my nxt move is switching my Calamity to a rare hxbow with LS/CHD/OS to get highest possible CHD from DW (Calamity caps my CHD on main hand to a max of 100% only)
Other future upgrades i have in mind:
- Switching my Embrace to a high vita roll inna chest so that i can use witching and still get 130 dex inna set bonus.
- Get Nat Bloody footprint so that i still get 7%CC bonus from losing Embrace.
- Replace lacuni with a rare bracers that gives me Dex/Vita/AR/CC (since alrdy get 24% MS from boots n pants)
Hopefully the end result will give me me higher dps & also ehp so i can tank more n kite less.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Nov 19 2012, 01:07 PM
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 12:48 PM)
@polarzbearz

just saw your diabloprogress profile. 850k EHP. LOL GILA.
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tongue.gif I was shocked too when I checked (it was already updated when I checked, someone else updated the profile I think)
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 19 2012, 01:06 PM)
Tried out the DW setup with 4.7% LS on mp6 uber 4-player game and my health went down slowly when shooting SB (only use Gloom when my health is 50% and got back up vry fast). My guess is with 6% LS , RD on SB can mitigated w/out using Gloom at all.
Now i need to get a Reflection with CC roll to boost my DPS back up. I didnt realise when i ditched DML i lost 20% ias (i thought im only losing dex/vita/cc). My dps went down from 128k to 110k. Lost of ias really affected my disc regen so i hope to get my hands on a Reflection ASAP.
Once i obtain a Reflection my nxt move is switching my Calamity to a rare hxbow with LS/CHD/OS to get highest possible CHD from DW (Calamity caps my CHD on main hand to a max of 100% only)
Other future upgrades i have in mind:
- Switching my Embrace to a high vita roll inna chest so that i can use witching and still get 130 dex inna set bonus.
- Get Nat Bloody footprint so that i still get 7%CC bonus from losing Embrace.
- Replace lacuni with a rare bracers that gives me Dex/Vita/AR/CC (since alrdy get 24% MS from boots n pants)
Hopefully the end result will give me me higher dps & also ehp so i can tank more n kite less.
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I really don't think you should change your embrace man. The +9 disc is very very good but you could if you wanna do what polarzbears does. Get as much HP and AR to compensate for DISC. With this,i don't think reflection should be your first priority la. I think bloody foot prints should. I think when you drop DML, you lost lots of survivability.
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 01:16 PM)
I really don't think you should change your embrace man. The +9 disc is very very good but you could if you wanna do what polarzbears does. Get as much HP and AR to compensate for DISC. With this,i don't think reflection should be your first priority la. I think bloody foot prints should. I think when you drop DML, you lost lots of survivability.
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I totally agree that losing DML is very painful indeed haha thats why i am trying to counter that by getting a Reflection (for the ias + CC + bonus 7% CC). Unfortunately my current fund always made me lose bids lolz. Dex/Vita loss i have made up slightly with the rare hxbow i am currently using (got 1 with dex/vita roll). Losing Disc on Embrace wont hurt me so much bcos i plan to get a 2nd rare hxbow with +max disc roll. The main reason i am switching to Inna chest is bcos it give the best vita + %life and also i can ditch Inna belt (while still getting the 130 dex bonus) so i could use Witching Hour (more ias n chd). Its a goal i am working on to achieve .. i am also giving some thought into how such build (fast attack, high ehp, high LS) will fare in PvP when it is released (whadya think bro? wont a hard hitting, high ehp ranged hero with high leeching capabilities be a PvP beast? tongue.gif )
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:55 PM

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Haha, nice thoughts!

Well hard hitting high EHP will be a beast but I dunno about LS. If PVP is base on current play style where ppl get one or two shorted, I think LS is redundant. If they scale down the damage and let you keep your gears, then LS would be useful. But I think LS only benefits you if you drag the fight (in other words against monsters).

My two cents .
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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 19 2012, 01:44 PM)
I totally agree that losing DML is very painful indeed haha thats why i am trying to counter that by getting a Reflection (for the ias + CC + bonus 7% CC). Unfortunately my current fund always made me lose bids lolz. Dex/Vita loss i have made up slightly with the rare hxbow i am currently using (got 1 with dex/vita roll). Losing Disc on Embrace wont hurt me so much bcos i plan to get a 2nd rare hxbow with +max disc roll. The main reason i am switching to Inna chest is bcos it give the best vita + %life and also i can ditch Inna belt (while still getting the 130 dex bonus) so i could use Witching Hour (more ias n chd). Its a goal i am working on to achieve .. i am also giving some thought into how such build (fast attack, high ehp, high LS) will fare in PvP when it is released (whadya think bro? wont a hard hitting, high ehp ranged hero with high leeching capabilities be a PvP beast?  tongue.gif )
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Of course, the dh concept you're advocating is interesting ...just that blizz must make available rare black 1hxbow with >1.1k dps, >2.8ls, >85 chd, DISC and os.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Nov 19 2012, 02:13 PM
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:58 PM

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Calamity? I think the prices for calamity are dipping so much now.. That's what I heard la..
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 19 2012, 01:44 PM)
I totally agree that losing DML is very painful indeed haha thats why i am trying to counter that by getting a Reflection (for the ias + CC + bonus 7% CC). Unfortunately my current fund always made me lose bids lolz. Dex/Vita loss i have made up slightly with the rare hxbow i am currently using (got 1 with dex/vita roll). Losing Disc on Embrace wont hurt me so much bcos i plan to get a 2nd rare hxbow with +max disc roll. The main reason i am switching to Inna chest is bcos it give the best vita + %life and also i can ditch Inna belt (while still getting the 130 dex bonus) so i could use Witching Hour (more ias n chd). Its a goal i am working on to achieve .. i am also giving some thought into how such build (fast attack, high ehp, high LS) will fare in PvP when it is released (whadya think bro? wont a hard hitting, high ehp ranged hero with high leeching capabilities be a PvP beast?  tongue.gif )
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agree to that i've been thinking of dropping disc as well to get higher dex+vit combination.. i saw a dh he only has 30 disc and i was quite curious is that sufficient? his answer is yes and the key is NS + preparation with focused mind.

anyway i haven't reach to the point that i need to drop my disc yet cause there are quite alot of gear waiting to be upgrade other than my cloak / quiver.


Added on November 19, 2012, 2:04 pmbtw have you guys seen this yet? this is damn crazy man.



it makes me rethink the 4 hours i spent solo diablo with my undergeared dh patch 103 is NOTHING.

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post Nov 19 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 19 2012, 01:59 PM)
agree to that i've been thinking of dropping disc as well to get higher dex+vit combination.. i saw a dh he only has 30 disc and i was quite curious is that sufficient? his answer is yes and the key is NS + preparation with focused mind.

anyway i haven't reach to the point that i need to drop my disc yet cause there are quite alot of gear waiting to be upgrade other than my cloak / quiver.
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Based on my own playtesting, needs an additional of >16 disc to ensure that its sufficient but that applies to my dh.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Nov 19 2012, 02:10 PM
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post Nov 19 2012, 02:11 PM

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try ghom mp10 naked... whistling.gif
stop bully diablo athena tongue.gif

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post Nov 19 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 19 2012, 02:08 PM)
Based on my own playtesting, needs an additional of >16 disc to ensure that its sufficient but that applies to my dh.
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haha although i might not go to such extreme yet (30 disc) but if i do, i might consider getting a SOJ with max disc. so 40 minimum. and have to discipline myself enough to use discipline biggrin.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 02:48 PM

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When I get the DPS I want, I'll remove the hellfire ring n uses a SoJ.

Why?

SoJ >>>> any ring out there.
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post Nov 19 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 02:48 PM)
When I get the DPS I want, I'll remove the hellfire ring n uses a SoJ.

Why?

SoJ >>>> any ring out there.
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I'm vaulting along the SoJ ring solution to get my DISC diet ...hehehe.
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post Nov 19 2012, 03:03 PM

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I have 36 discipline and never run out of disipline even when glooming on one siege breaker. even preparation is seldom used unless I'm crazily vaulting around to hunt elites... just ls on xbow seems enough to manage disipline well when tanking.... for ubers just take mark for death with 1% ls on hit... my conclusion is that high ls only seems useful to counter reflect dmg... survivability you'll be better off dependant on AR so that you don't die to easily when targeted.. for pvp u don't need to wory about reflect dmg (or do you?)...


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QUOTE(wlcling @ Nov 19 2012, 03:03 PM)
I have 36 discipline and never run out of disipline even when glooming on one siege breaker. even preparation is seldom used unless I'm crazily vaulting around to hunt elites... just ls on xbow seems enough to manage disipline well when tanking.... for ubers just take mark for death with 1% ls on hit... my conclusion is that high ls only seems useful to counter reflect dmg... survivability you'll be better off dependant on AR so that you don't die to easily when targeted.. for pvp u don't need to wory about reflect dmg (or do you?)...
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Barb has Overpower -Crushing Advance that redirects 35% of incoming melee and ranged damage for 4 seconds, seems painful to my DH.

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 19 2012, 03:02 PM)
I'm vaulting along the SoJ ring solution to get my DISC diet ...hehehe.
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I have 47 disc and that extra 10 disc from SoJ is just a luxury. The reason why I say SoJ >>> any ring is cuz unless I can find a ring that gives me 1/3 of my DPS like SoJ does, SoJ wins hands down.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 02:48 PM)
When I get the DPS I want, I'll remove the hellfire ring n uses a SoJ.

Why?

SoJ >>>> any ring out there.
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so what's the amount of dps that you want?
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post Nov 19 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 19 2012, 03:08 PM)
Barb has Overpower -Crushing Advance that redirects 35% of incoming melee and ranged damage for 4 seconds, seems painful to my DH.
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barb is the best char liao... hammer of ancient boom boom.. wonder which DH can stand that without gloom and high AR. summore wwt barb immune to stuns right
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 19 2012, 03:13 PM)
so what's the amount of dps that you want?
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I'm hoping 230-250k Unbuffed with SOJ on
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post Nov 19 2012, 04:04 PM

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for pvp i think thorns gear price will be up up up

think bout it if someone can stack 10k thorns for range dmg..
I don wan to get near to that guy..
5 shot of bola shot then i die de...lol


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