Most of malay are not qualified to enter UM due to the result not excellent, most of engineering student(electrical,mechanical, chemical,civil) um are 4.0 from matrix and STPM. UTM engineering very easy to get n very easy to score, they have their own book and all lecturer will refer to the book when preparing the exam questions, so that's why many students can score and rate of student repeated the subject very low compare to UM(5 years is normal), while in UM,the question cant be predictable and most of lecturers are foreigners/engineering consultants, UM doesn't have the reference book like what others universities does, and most of lecturers preparing the open question and not based on the lecture class, i can say even u bring the book to the exam, u cant answer the question because most of the question are very open  and u never seen the question before(u cant find in a book or lecturer notes), there are no tips from lecturer on exam, There are many 3.0 and above graduate students  from UTM, while in UM, if u can pass 3, meaning u are good student because most of student graduated below 3 especially student from matrix/asasi UM. UTM engineering still accept 3.0 from matrix/STPM(i believe most of them are matrix student) student while there is not such kind of clowns in engineering UM. One things good about um, the live is free, not like others university, now UM has many international students for undergraduate and the percentage of malay students in UM are not majority anymore, so u can see hot chicks wearing short skirt around university(only in UM for public U category) and the UM gate 24 hours open(only in UM for public U category) since its located in the kl area. Dont worry about the job if u are graduated from UM, I can say 100% got a job after final exam, while in UTM there are many jobless compared to UM and student english proficiency is low.( Most of the class conducted in Malay).

I don't doubt what you have to say about UM, but you have to state some source for your info regarding UTM. They are not reputable for nothing.

I don't doubt what you have to say about UM, but you have to state some source for your info regarding UTM. They are not reputable for nothing.

Indeed it is funny bcz some ignoramus still thinks that UM practice the quota system 

KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 17 — A World Bank publication has found that standards at Universiti Malaya have fallen and the institution has been kept at a disadvantage because of race-based admission quotas and political interference in university management.

In contrast, Singapore’s decision to prioritise research, keeping English as the medium of instruction and a merit-based admissions policy have all contributed to the success of the National University of Singapore’s success, according to “The Road to Academic Excellence,” which studies what contributes to a world-class research university.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...rld-bank-study/
http://www.mmail.com.my/story/end-quota-sy...ation-standards

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Added on August 19, 2012, 11:06 pmWorld ranking

435    Universiti Sains Malaysia        900    964    102  618
448  Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia / National University of Malaysia    764  554  372  850
451  Universiti Teknologi MARA    71  372  707  1,673
500  Universiti Putra Malaysia    444  758  511  857
527  Universiti Teknologi Malaysia    439  972  200  1,158
550  University of Malaya    981  1,068  336  692

if u have friends in UTM ,u can get the info from them...i got the info from my friends and the student who got into UTM during my time....very hard to find the student especially from matrix being offered to study in critical course in UM..

no uni is hard to enroll,as long as ur result is good..
as for undergraduate studies,me and my friends got in, and yes we r non bumis. 

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...rld-bank-study/
http://www.mmail.com.my/story/end-quota-sy...ation-standards

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Added on August 19, 2012, 11:06 pmWorld ranking

435    Universiti Sains Malaysia        900    964    102  618
448  Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia / National University of Malaysia    764  554  372  850
451  Universiti Teknologi MARA    71  372  707  1,673
500  Universiti Putra Malaysia    444  758  511  857
527  Universiti Teknologi Malaysia    439  972  200  1,158
550  University of Malaya    981  1,068  336  692

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...rld-bank-study/
http://www.mmail.com.my/story/end-quota-sy...ation-standards

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Added on August 19, 2012, 11:06 pmWorld ranking

435    Universiti Sains Malaysia        900    964    102  618
448  Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia / National University of Malaysia    764  554  372  850
451  Universiti Teknologi MARA    71  372  707  1,673
500  Universiti Putra Malaysia    444  758  511  857
527  Universiti Teknologi Malaysia    439  972  200  1,158
550  University of Malaya    981  1,068  336  692

Indeed it is funny bcz some ignoramus still thinks that UM practice the quota system 

UITM>UM???

Most of malay are not qualified to enter UM due to the result not excellent, most of engineering student(electrical,mechanical, chemical,civil) um are 4.0 from matrix and STPM.

UTM engineering very easy to get n very easy to score, they have their own book and all lecturer will refer to the book when preparing the exam questions, so that's why many students can score and rate of student repeated the subject very low compare to UM(5 years is normal), while in UM,the question cant be predictable and most of lecturers are foreigners/engineering consultants, UM doesn't have the reference book like what others universities does, and most of lecturers preparing the open question and not based on the lecture class, i can say even u bring the book to the exam, u cant answer the question because most of the question are very open  and u never seen the question before(u cant find in a book or lecturer notes), there are no tips from lecturer on exam, There are many 3.0 and above graduate students  from UTM, while in UM, if u can pass 3, meaning u are good student because most of student graduated below 3 especially student from matrix/asasi UM.

UTM engineering still accept 3.0 from matrix/STPM(i believe most of them are matrix student) student while there is not such kind of clowns in engineering UM.

One things good about um, the live is free, not like others university, now UM has many international students for undergraduate and the percentage of malay students in UM are not majority anymore, so u can see hot chicks wearing short skirt around university(only in UM for public U category) and the UM gate 24 hours open(only in UM for public U category) since its located in the kl area.

Dont worry about the job if u are graduated from UM, I can say 100% got a job after final exam, while in UTM there are many jobless compared to UM and student english proficiency is low.( Most of the class conducted in Malay).

Bro, u junior than me, i was graduated 5 years ago, there are many 4.0 matrix student during ur time because the exam now much more simpler, different from my time.Not so many 4.0 matrix student, so the malay percentage very low especially electrical and mechanical.s0 dont compare ur time and my time,- some department has many malay, but the course not consider as popular course - manufacturing, enviroment engineering, and so on - i guess our time is different, since like now many students can get 4.o easily from matrix..)[/b]

Check my post before u make any statement-(electrical,mechanical, chemical,civil)

while in UTM there are many jobless compared to UM and student english proficiency is low.( Most of the class conducted in Malay).

Thanks for clearing that up.

hi john doe

why abandon the dupe?

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