Pfft lol, wasn't even one of my choices. I'm not saying it sucks, just that its engineering faculty isn't as renowned as UTM. Chill the f*** out.


You know me too well

DIAM LA Vietnamese.

Talk cock.

UM international ranking is keep dropping, why not try Hong Kong or Singapore?

Most of malay are not qualified to enter UM due to the result not excellent, most of engineering student(electrical,mechanical, chemical,civil) um are 4.0 from matrix and STPM. UTM engineering very easy to get n very easy to score, they have their own book and all lecturer will refer to the book when preparing the exam questions, so that's why many students can score and rate of student repeated the subject very low compare to UM(5 years is normal), while in UM,the question cant be predictable and most of lecturers are foreigners/engineering consultants, UM doesn't have the reference book like what others universities does, and most of lecturers preparing the open question and not based on the lecture class, i can say even u bring the book to the exam, u cant answer the question because most of the question are very open and u never seen the question before(u cant find in a book or lecturer notes), there are no tips from lecturer on exam, There are many 3.0 and above graduate students from UTM, while in UM, if u can pass 3, meaning u are good student because most of student graduated below 3 especially student from matrix/asasi UM. UTM engineering still accept 3.0 from matrix/STPM(i believe most of them are matrix student) student while there is not such kind of clowns in engineering UM. One things good about um, the live is free, not like others university, now UM has many international students for undergraduate and the percentage of malay students in UM are not majority anymore, so u can see hot chicks wearing short skirt around university(only in UM for public U category) and the UM gate 24 hours open(only in UM for public U category) since its located in the kl area. Dont worry about the job if u are graduated from UM, I can say 100% got a job after final exam, while in UTM there are many jobless compared to UM and student english proficiency is low.( Most of the class conducted in Malay).

yes agreed...u dont hv to follow malay culture...

wow, my boss from thr to econs.

Your statement totally wrong UM ranking keep dropping...please do more research...

The ranking not only based on r&d, but the percentage of international student, lecturer to students and so on...u can check the criteria by urself...any England University (Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College) or US university, once u enter, degree on ur hand...the Malaysia system very difficult...

what's the advantage of UTM Engineering ?

easy to get in if ure not a melei like me

i am doing my master in um nao

UTM ke UITM ke UKM ke UPM ke...

All the local M&M's university is shit ..... the only good one is UM ....

easy to get in and easy to score...most of student not consider as good student, thats why they end up in UTM...so easy for u to potong them...

macam shit je statement ko nih ....

I agreed, if u go to industrial..people will have more respect to UM graduate during interview especially if u are malay

no uni is hard to enroll,as long as ur result is good..
as for undergraduate studies,me and my friends got in, and yes we r non bumis.

Okay I take back all the bad things I've said about UM.

Anyway they still don't have my course so I didn't apply there. Maybe I should have reconsidered.

so you're saying curfews, can't bring cars for first years are malay culture?

i meant u can mix with different sex, can dating, can wear sexy...Others public U cant and u will get the ticket and counselling..some of outside students very surprised when they see the boy and girls hostel very near( u can see boys/girls in thee room because too near) and the student free to walk in and out ( only at lobby), UM is very free..u can walk in and out anytime from uni...

This post has been edited by jack~daniel: Aug 19 2012, 10:43 PM

oh you mean that, yeah, memang best

LOL

which engine?