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post Aug 20 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Aug 20 2012, 10:02 PM)
I'll wait for the 256GB models to reach <RM350. Price, please keep dropping. At this rate christmas sale should have something within my range.
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Manufacturing prices of NANDs dictactes that 256GB SSDs won't be dropping down to <RM350 this year, that'll be the story for next year.
<RM550 is a possibility, but only for lower-end SF models and perhaps the popular M4.

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post Aug 24 2012, 08:10 AM

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The Corsair Neutron series isn't really such a bad SSD. If only its price can be lower ($10-$20 lower in fact), I think it could be a good new direction for Corsair.

Will be keeping an eye on its reliability and any issues over the next few months though.
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Aug 24 2012, 08:49 AM)
Corsair using LinkAMedia? i thought it was bought over by Hynix already?
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Yeah, bought over by SK Hynix already. But LinkA still has their branding over their products, it's not a whole swallow take over where even the name changes.

Maybe in a year's time, we'll have Hynix controller on the mainstream market.


QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Aug 24 2012, 11:20 AM)
thanks i am currently still using a mobo with no support for sata 3 but that is seriously fast!
thanks for sharing thumbup.gif
now waiting reply for people who use it with windows and gaming
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Putting games on SSD is subjective.
For games which are texture heavy where the engine renders everything in real-time (not a pre-load), an SSD will help significantly. These are games like RAGE, GTA4, and Skyrim.

For games which loads the whole level on the RAM before the start like the COD or Battlefield games, you'd probably shave a couple of seconds here and there (depending on the level load) over normal HDD. But not a huge difference really.
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QUOTE(blackht @ Aug 24 2012, 11:39 PM)
i getting m4 ssd
and 2TB hdd for games
let say COD or Battlefield games install HDD not SSD
SSD = OS+APP only
HDD = 2TB Games installed a lot games i dont want install SSD for games
what i must to do
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You already answered your own question... lol.

Just set the directory to your HDD when you install games and that's it.
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post Aug 25 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(blackht @ Aug 25 2012, 01:44 PM)
game install will show c: drive i press browse D: drive dont have Program Files
must be c : drive Program Files
any problem
i played game saved will be c: drive i dont want i prefer saved game for d: drive
let say ssd virus i reformat then i dont want lost game saved
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No problem, why would there be a problem?
For save games, they are usually saved in My Documents which on your C drive on default. Just move the My Documents folders to your D drive.

Check google for guides on how to do it.
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post Aug 27 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Aug 27 2012, 03:41 PM)
Anyone here using Samsung 830?
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I am.


QUOTE(redkord @ Aug 27 2012, 04:09 PM)
why only 7series chipset  is supported for TRIM raid0 ssd?? TRIM is on hardware level or software? correct me if im wrong.
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Hardware mostly.
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post Aug 27 2012, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Aug 27 2012, 05:40 PM)
How was the performance compare to other SSD since Samsung make the whole drive all by themselves.
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I've used Corsair Force GT, Crucial M4, Intel 330, OCZ Vertex 2 and Agility 3 SSDs in the past (and present).
Compared to them, the Samsung 830 proved to me it is the fastest drive of them all but that only matters when I'm doing real-time video recording and recording.

This is where I save a huge video file (usually .tp/.ts mpeg-2, which could go up to 15GB for a 1 hour clip), and the Samsung 830 proved to be the snappiest.

So yes, to me at least personally.. it is the best SSD I've used so far.

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QUOTE(ReaperX @ Aug 27 2012, 08:22 PM)
How about the boot up time? Any differences, say comparing Samsung 830 to Agility 3?
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If you count 2 seconds being a difference then yeah... I guess that's the difference, in terms of boot up speed.

Setting a script to open all my most used programs when Windows start — Chrome, PS6, Sony Vegas 11, StaxRip, Steam and loading the usual drivers — my Samsung 830 > Agilty 3 by roughly 3~4 seconds, give or take.

For games load time, I can't test that as my Agility 3 is only 60GB in size and it's already touching 50GB in space used. So no space for installing games there and compare it with the 830. But I reckon, the difference wouldn't be any more than 2 seconds either way.
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QUOTE(boonykun @ Aug 28 2012, 12:01 PM)
How's yr guys comment on this? negotiating a offer for LAMD's 120GB GTX / normal ones, but the Write speed is AWFUL for 120GB non-GTX version...

http://www.corsair.com/neutron/

120GB Neutron
Max Sequential R/W (ATTO): 555 MB/s sequential read
211 MB/s sequential write

240GB Neutron
•Max Sequential R/W (ATTO): 555 MB/s sequential read
370 MB/s sequential write

120GB GTX
Max Sequential R/W (ATTO): 555 MB/s sequential read
330 MB/s sequential write

240GB GTX
Max Sequential R/W (ATTO): 555 MB/s sequential read
511 MB/s sequential write

Gtx looks tasty smile.gif smile.gif

LAMD seems new to me... sad.gif
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Okay, the first main issue for LAMD drives now is that we don't know how reliable it is. Whether if firmware issues will bog the drive down or not in the near future, since it's only been released, we can't get enough feedback yet.

I'm not trying to defend Corsair, but the positive thing is that they don't like having any bad track records in their history of products.
Corsair learnt their lesson with their Force 3 and Force GT drives, jumping onto the SF bandwagon too quickly.

They did their homework for their Performance Pro SSDs, but too bad they cost too much in comparison to other Marvell SSDs and isn't readibly available in most regions. Didn't really took off.

So with their new Neutron drives, I think they're really trying to put all of those behind them and hopefully change their face around like how OCZ did with their Vertex 4. Depending on the price, I think if you can secure a good deal then why not? Bringing some in wouldn't be a bad idea.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Aug 31 2012, 09:57 PM)
i mean not download to ssd, but download to secondary hdd, just the bittorrent program install at ssd.
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Doesn't matter either.
I don't see why it would hurt lol. SSDs aren't just made for speed you know...
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post Sep 3 2012, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Sep 3 2012, 12:38 AM)
I'm noob about SSD. While browsing, it seems Intel 330 120 is the cheapest SSD one can buy. But I read something about sandforce issue.

Other option are Crucial M4.

However, reason I want to go for SSD:

1. Get rid of annoying Diablo III lag
2. Faster windows 7 boot up

Budget around RM380. Anyone can recommend value for money with balance performance? Thanks.
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1. Getting an SSD won't remove your D3 lag. D3 loads its entire level onto your RAM, doesn't stream from HDD/SSD unlike games such as Skyrim or RAGE.

2. Good choice.

The Intel 330 is using Sandforce controller, but Intel's firmware has been pretty solid for it thus far. Don't have to worry too much.
So I'd still recommend an Intel 330 for your budget, otherwise the Crucial M4 is always a good alternative pick.


QUOTE(Isolation @ Sep 3 2012, 12:48 AM)
Hey guys, im new to SSD. Can i know, OCZ Revodrive new gen is better or not compared to conventional SSD? Anyone using Revodrive here?

Please share story.
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It's faster yes, if that's what you're asking.
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QUOTE(farizluqman @ Sep 5 2012, 10:54 PM)
I have a question.

Since that SSD drives are quite good in reading and writing speed, is it good to use it to store Windows pagefile or Linux swap?

some says good, some says it'll worsen and shorten the lifespan of the SSD.

if it is good, I'm going to buy a small and good SSD for my gaming rig.
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Storing pagefile on SSD won't shorten its lifespan by much (if at all, really).
But realistically, you're just gonna store 512mb - 1024mb... just for programs that uses pagefile, for stability.

Doesn't make a difference really.
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QUOTE(ketapang @ Sep 6 2012, 03:01 PM)
Just notice when i was looking around the pricelist. Damn cheap!

So guys, i already placed an order from Newegg Malaysia for Samsung 830 128GB, RM310+RM25 postage to my place. But this Intel price is just too good. Should i cancel my order and go for Intel?
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I'd stick with the Samsung 830 if I were you.
RM335 for a Samsung 830 128GB is a very good deal, I don't see why you'd want to save RM20 to get an Intel 330 instead.

Considering when (even if you don't need it) the Samsung 830 > Intel 330 in performance.
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QUOTE(mrteeheetummytums @ Sep 6 2012, 04:33 PM)
I'm hoping you guys can answer my question. I've been looking at newegg pricing, 120gb SSDs like Intel 330, neutron, crucial m4 and samsung 830 all have retail price about 120usd but they mostly sell around 100usd now. Plus shipping to malaysia thats only about rm325 more or less, whereas local vendors are selling these, except the intel 330, around rm360-400. So would it be recommended to just ship in from u.s because it sounds like a very good deal? In fact as of right now the OCZ vertex 4 is going for only 99usd from the rrp of 139usd.

Also according to corsair's websites it offers 5 year warranty but the garage sale posts only offer 3 years for their neutrons (not the gtx), is that just because we're Malaysia? sad.gif
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You can ship from Newegg.
Intel 330 can be bought for as low as RM310 in LowYat Plaza now btw, not RM360-RM400.

The thing with getting from Newegg is, certain manufacturers require that you send your product back to the place of origin for any warranty purposes. Not everyone provides global warranty.

The Corsair Neutron comes with 3 years warranty, the Neutron GTX comes with 5 years. No difference from us and the rest of the world.
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QUOTE(junkieG @ Sep 7 2012, 11:02 AM)
good performance ssd under rm600+- for video encoding..will be using for laptop

Please recommend....is corsair gt OK compare to crucial M4? what about vertex 4?

thank you
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For video encoding, you'd want something other than a Sandforce controller.
I'd suggest a Samsung 830.
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 17 2012, 02:42 PM)
okay,thanks.wll keep your advice in mind. smile.gif
think ill wait out for 1/2 months more.

I need the ssd cause my hdd is kinda roasting.It is in between many components(cpu,gpu,northbridge) if im not mistaken..lol..
temperature is around 45 idle and 50 max... rclxub.gif
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45 idle and 50 max is pretty typical for HDD temps in a laptop, nothing to worry about. As long as it doesn't go above 55c for long periods of time (and by this, I mean days) then there shouldn't be any problems at all.

If possible, you can wait until the end of the year (Nov-Dec) for another rather substansial price drop by most manufacturers.

120/128GB SSDs under RM300 is a given.
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 17 2012, 03:54 PM)
right now the temp is 50, normal surfing/playing games..
I use HWmonitor..lowest 47,highest 51.
Considered normal?

Its the same for the last few days..
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That's pretty fine. If you are paranoid, get a laptop cooler perhaps.


QUOTE(rudolfjie @ Sep 17 2012, 11:13 PM)
I'm currently using Agility 3 60GB
Planning to upgrade, but wonder which solution better

a: Get another Agility 3 60GB and go RAID0
b: Sell my 60GB, and get a Vertex 4 128GB

Which is faster in this case?

Thanks in advance
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The RAID0 with another Agility 3 will be faster in this case, much faster in fact.
But if you aren't going to use it for the applications that utilizes that much sequential speed, then I'd suggest you don't bother at all.

More over, you only have 60GB of space... and most applications that needs the speed requires a much larger amount of space.

And finally, no — you aren't going to feel much of a difference in normal usage between RAID0 and the Vertex 4.
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post Sep 19 2012, 02:51 AM

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RM235 for a 128GB SSD... hell of an amazing deal which ever way you put it.
Anyone ordered it?

Sold out already now.
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QUOTE(rudolfjie @ Sep 19 2012, 11:05 AM)
So you suggest just to get a vertex 4?
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If you need the extra SSD space, then yes... get the Vertex 4. No point RAID0 on a 60GB drive IMO.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 19 2012, 04:35 PM)
If he decides to get a new Vertex 4, what does he do with his existing 60GB drive?
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Sell.
Or... set it as a drive to install games only (assuming he plays games that is). 60GB alone without any OS should be more than enough for 4 or 5 games at a time. More even, depending on what is installed.

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