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post Aug 17 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(sacremento @ Aug 17 2012, 03:48 AM)
i did go to maxis centre and try to sign in....as always maxis start off this promo without any stock with them. curse maxis. always promo but no stock.
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Got stock I manage to get 1 on last Sunday but now all of them sold out...
Only left Note, even 4S / One X also sold off...
Wanna get another 1 either One X or S3 also cannot... smile.gif

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Guys i need help... i thought S3 can handle multitasking... but how to enable it... because everytime i leave the browser, youtube or others apps for a short SMS/whatsapp/viber reply it restarts when i try to switch it back on...


QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 19 2012, 05:03 AM)
Here is a demo by some Malaysian of Papago M9
The popular gps navi apps are

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Tried sygic but didn't feel user friendly. papago i don't know enough, but i wonder why on the official site m9 isn't listed o.O; anyone know ?

google maps was recently updated to show routes for public transports if i remember correctly.

waze is a social navi that depends on other waze users to help build the road map via gps feedback when the app is in use. Also depends on user base teamwork to actively report traffic, accidents, etc etc...
Google maps has so much detail these days, so becoming harder to justify going for the paid apps compared to the free google maps  hmm.gif

Waze is also free  thumbup.gif


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agress... Sygic really does not really feel it is easy to look for a place... Papago been using it for some time on the stand alone unit... on my DZ since i got it, but now my fav is Waze... it does consume quite some numbers of data at 1st, after than it is ok except u go to other place where it id not in your cache... i love the live traffic P2P feedback also... at least i know approx i need how much time i can arrive to my destination...

BTW M9 for mobile was just released not long ago, you can purchase at their office located near Eastin Hotel...
i have not update my stand alone unit to M9 too, although they are giving free updates... recommended Papago if you really want simple and nice GPS without much POI like Garmin/Sygic...

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 19 2012, 12:53 PM)
so basically your saying papago is easy to use like waze ?  hmm.gif  interesting.
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ya... personally have Sygic on my DZ now because my Papago M5 does not has any map updates any more, coz papago ask MFM to stop the updates... but it is mostly lying there doing nothing than get ready position haha... most of the time Waze will bring me where i want to go smile.gif Papago is in my SD card with titanium backup for emergency purposes...

QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Aug 19 2012, 12:59 PM)
true. personally, I would rather use a RM10 pasar malam SP.
It's just that i realised majority of the cheap SP that i've tried for the S3 has rainbow effects and is not crystal clear.
It makes the HD AMOLED screen look like some cheap screen sad.gif
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don buy those as cheap one... the decent one i think will cost around RM20~30...
personally i do not like to use any SP or casing... most of my phones is like ~80% after 2 years usage because i never put things together with it... 2 phones in each pocket, 1 for my wallet and keys... never put any hard subject with it, even tissues pack.. haha...

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 19 2012, 12:50 PM)
Guys i need help... i thought S3 can handle multitasking... but how to enable it... because everytime i leave the browser, youtube, skype or others apps for a short SMS/whatsapp/viber reply it restarts when i try to switch it back on...
no one has the answer... disappointed with the so call TOP SELLING Phone, claimed by Samsung (10mil unit sold), on this area...

*especially skype it keep on disconnecting... where as i do not have this problem last time on my DZ... the Samsung memory management keep on killing skype when it is in the back ground...

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Aug 19 2012, 09:40 PM)
Did you in any way touch your apps section on developer options setting.?
Check...Settings > Developers options > Apps (disable/un-tick on Do not keep activities)
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nope... u think i 1st day use android meh... i did not touch anything...

QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Aug 19 2012, 10:02 PM)
no problem with skype disconnecting even though i use whatsapp, watch youtube etc. i always need to manually disconnect skype on my own.
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good for you... try to run a few apps... facebook, whatsapp, skype and also browser...
i'm very sure when u press home button will have a lil lag, after going thru all these app...
the memory management in the ROM is bad...
i did not expect a top range device to be like that...

QUOTE(waveweaver @ Aug 19 2012, 10:07 PM)
Charge it until your battery full is enough.
Hmm..i did try open more than two apps but when comes to three then one app closed. Anybody can open three or more apps open at one time and it shown at application monitor.?
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three only ar... ok... but they should not simply kill communication app... i do not have these problem on others rom or phone... 1st time using Samsung after sometime and this is my 1st Android phone with them...
again they disappoint me again... should stand firm on the banning samsung in my life...

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only that much... the launcher also keep on restarting... try to on a few then press home button... that time it will lag to go back to the home screen...
BTW i do not think is apps related problem... mostly is the samsung software engineering problem...
they kill running task too easily... that cause the phone to lag too, coz when u want to go back to home screen it needs to restart the launcher again...

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Haha... Ya now ok back... it their firmware problem... but stillI have restarts for the browser... Nvm... disappointed with how the memory management script was written by Samsung engineer

Cheers... thanks all for doing the experiment for me...
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Aug 19 2012, 01:27 PM)
The glass is made by Gorilla (big, bad ape)..and used by human. Cannot scratch by dust one. Sand maybe...or used by monkeys.:-P
It's much easier to scratch your phone body paint instead of its screen  :-))
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 19 2012, 10:48 PM)
Stock ROM? If so yes I agree memory management is quite bad for something that has 1GB RAM.

S2 is better, but you must understand, for thr S2 to reach that level of optimization, it took a couple of (ok, more than just a couple of) updates.

Give it a few more versions, it should shape up. Hopefully JB makes it better too.

OR, you can go the Custom ROM way, though this is not for everyone. With some Sammy bloatware kicked out + swap, I could very well run more than 10 stuff at once - concurrently - with little issue.
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Agree the firmware issue but with S2 as a sample they make such mistake again does not helps. My DZ has half of the ram also does not has a bad management like this...
Temporary I would prefer not to root it yet... wait and see lo...
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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Aug 19 2012, 11:41 PM)
Clearing the list doesn't do anything unless the apps are open. It's not going to clear cached processes or stuff like that.
Erm... True and maybe not exactly accurate either.

Free ram is advantageous of course.. Cause if you have NO RAM available, how will you run apps? Sensibly, you need free RAM to open up new apps(without killing applications you want left open).

True in the sense that android really does manage open applications and RAM well enough for daily basic usage. Most cases, people don't even know about this 'clearing RAM'  and they use the phone without any problems. They don't close apps properly and the phone still functions without a problem. That's the average user. In fact,  if you're running regular apps like messaging or Internet, you shouldn't be facing any FCs due to RAM issues.

How they govern priority to open apps in default is good enough for most users. We know we can change this,  but leaving it as it is should be very reliable in most cases.

However, if no apps are open, and you are 100% confident that you have NO running apps in the background, then RAM usage should be low. If you are seeing around 680-700++ RAM usage with absolutely nothing open, then something really spooky is going on. SII used to hover at about 400 with nothing open. SIII hovers 550+ with nothing open.

Remember, I see quite a few people rebooting their phone and checking their RAM and showing a high amount of RAM usage and saying that it's so high even without apps open. Dudes, remember, on a fresh reboot... Myriads of apps are running. Wait for a while.. Maybe like 15 minutes or more and then check your RAM. things like media scanner, download manager, and many others are running on a fresh boot.

Cheers
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i'm not using any special tools to kill task but after i use the stock task manager to kill tasks the memory still hovering around 630MB...

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Aug 20 2012, 11:28 AM)
Interesting...  But I see no such memory leak. Woke up this morning and checked to see if there was such memory load built up...  And obviously not.
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hmmm, are you running on stock... mind to share your settings...

thanks...


QUOTE(Milk_MilkzZzz @ Aug 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
Think to grab one, Currently is IOS user,
Anyone know penang area got ready stock for SIII?
Digi/ Maxis, Thanks lottt!!
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you might on hold a while 1st... from my point of view it does have a good specs but the GUI (user experience) not really that smooth lo... the lagging comparable to my 1st Gen iPad running IOS 5.0, and it does not expect the most high end gadget in the current date to be like that... the main culprit is the firmware of Samsung, around 779 RAM available but more than 80% of it will be occupied most of the time...

Iphone 4S during launching definitely smoother than this, because i got my hands on it for 4 days on the launching of maxis... i sold it of later because prefer the android interface and my gf does not want to use it...

many ppl might be disagree to me on this...
just my single cents... is your choice... cheers...

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Aug 20 2012, 01:21 PM)
there is always root and with that we can clean up the ram hoggers, i cleaned it up and now is at 50% ram usage under normal circumstances
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wow, ok... i told myself not to root it... until i make a decision to keep or sell... it is a BAD BAD ROM by Samsung... no offense... others makers that i'm using on hand now did not make the similar mistake... Single Core on ICS stock ROM with SE Xperia does better, of course my DZ on Sense 4.0 Customer ROM also not bad... but really does not expect a Quad Core Phone with plenty of RAM perform like that...

cheers...

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 20 2012, 05:16 PM)
those concerned bout ram usage

go download an app call autostarts from store. it's a paid app but totally worth it IMO

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...utostarts&hl=en

you can choose to disable app that will launch during start up. you will be surprised by the sort of apps which your phone will boot under stock mode, even games.
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need root... hmmm...
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don wanna root S3 coz i thought it is enough...

have a DZ rooted on Sense 4.0 ICS custom ROM, nice... Ray did not touch still good on latest stock ICS... but S3 is a big disappointment for me...
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 20 2012, 05:58 PM)
It's simple. Sammy shipped the S3 with 1GB of RAM - AND A SHITLOAD OF BUILT IN FEATURES. Not a good combi really.

You'd think that Smart Stay, Direct Call, Allshare and whatevs don't eat RAM? If it's built into the framework, it will. They SHOULD have given us 2GB for sure. Or at least 1.5GB (which they are already planning to put into the Note 2).

I mean, free RAM is unused RAM, sure. But if a browser with some tabs open is all it takes to force my music player running in the background to shut down out of RAM issues, than Sammy really messed up somewhere.

I freaking don't care if I have ZERO free RAM available at boot, if I can multitask heavily without issues.

Not that I hate the S3, I love it, and I still think it's the BEST Android device out there (RIGHT NOW - taking into account that you can ONLY get the Korean 4G 2GB RAM S3 IN KOREA). But I do agree it has RAM issues.

I'm solving it (partly) with swap, but the point is I REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

Nonetheless, if you think that Sammy makes BAD BAD ROMs, you'd better stay away from the One X. That thing leaks RAM like a sieve.
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haha... ok... clear stated there...


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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Aug 20 2012, 06:01 PM)
So does that mean if we flash stock android ROM like cyanogenmod or supernexus, it will speed up / improve the S3's performance and RAM usage by milestones compared to stock samsung touchwiz? ohmy.gif
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it will speed up... u never know until you try AOSP...

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Aug 20 2012, 09:03 PM)
I thought he sold his S3 edi coz grossly dissapointed with the peformance..IINM  :-P
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haha... not that fast i always gives ppl chance... but i'll not root it until got no hope dy...
or the new S4 chipset officially available in malaysia... then i might sell this for that...

BTW TouchWiz is nothing la... it is replaceable... temporary Sense is my fav... lets see touchwiz can over take it or not...

QUOTE(noobandroid @ Aug 20 2012, 09:04 PM)
well, he is the first s3 hater i encountered
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haha... right... have you ask 10 millions user around the world?
and some more i does not hate it, i love a few aspect of the phone but disappointed with the performance on the RAM's firmware tweaking by Samsung engineer... it is the 1st time Skype got killed even is just swap it over to whatsapp for a while...

so far i tried a lil tweak here and there with the settings, has been about 1/2 day...
things is better but still there is a lag here and there... manageable...
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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Aug 20 2012, 10:31 PM)
like many of us said, Skype won't be killed by swtiching to other apps. it is the only app that requires me to manually logout and switch it off. something is not right there
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that did happen to me... my bro saw it... try again later see whether can happen again or not... cheers...
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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Aug 20 2012, 10:51 PM)
maybe something is wrong with the phone. try a hard reset?
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haha... use it since Friday, that is 4~5 days ago and so fast got corrupted or problem meh...
i wonder why i need to clean the memory myself always, where as my gf's Ray and my DZ performing well on 512 RAM without cleaning the RAM... or should i say my gf never clean up the RAM before and she duno how to do it...

Currently i feel better with the performance but the troublesome is i need to manual clean the RAM myself...
more smooth, but there is lag here and there... clean up the memory, gone, everything back to normal

QUOTE(jackdante22 @ Aug 21 2012, 02:30 AM)
I went to Courts @ Setia City Mall today just for browsing. One of the sales person said this phone have problem such as overheating due to overcharging & always hang. Is it true guys? I might getting this phone next month.
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well that is sales talk my friend... i cannot give you an absolute answer but due to my experience for few days...

1st is over heat problem, yes and no... but i do not thing it is due to over charging... when using the phone to play every simple games you will feel the heat... i duno y ppl complaint about the New iPad but not this...

2ndly is the hang problem, i do not feel it but yes there is some lag here and there... my bad experience is i never clean any of my task since i bought it on last friday, mess up with it and install all the apps i wanted... on Saturday nite my nightmare comes, i'm chatting with my sis and my gf at the same time but different app... and i'm surfing for something using stock browser and looking thru the iproperties app... suddenly my skype auto killed by the task manager and also my stock browser restarts everytime i swap to messaging apps to talk to them...
after complaining on it here, i only find out one thing... i need to clear the memory myself, using the S3 task manager... when i check that time my memory is 650+MB used over 779MB (that is what available for user only), so i wonder why there is so heavy loaded there...
so restart i still have slight problem but no big deal, then until now i need to clear the RAM myself using stock task manager to clear up the path for my usage... i do not think i'm a heavy user for this few days, as i'm worst on working days... more towards chatting, web browsing and gaming for tis few days but for working day i have a lot of calls, 2 account running emails, whatsapp, browsing and some light gaming... i'll see how it performs by next week, when everybody (customer) back from Raya mood...

my bad experience on the phone is not about the parts and specs is the firmware build by Samsung... for Android it will auto manage the memory for you but i did not expect it does not help me to clean up instead i need to do it myself... user experience is badly affected, maybe i expect too much as i upgrade from Single Core... my DZ running custom Sense 4 ROM is almost as speed on the Home Panels as S3, which i felt it should be smooth like a silk with the core and RAM available...S2 is better as the RAM usage is not that high and they maintain around 450~500MB as i heard... yesterday go out with my fren who owns S2 and he say what is the freaking things running behind it, 650MB used!!! but after manually clearing it using task manager it is ok, goes down to ~500MB but then it will bounce up back to ~600 later stage...
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sorry bro... i'm not 1st day android user and i know that but the stupid task manager always overloaded my RAM... have bad bad experience which i never felt be with even Single Core/512MB RAM phones... maybe i expect too much from a Quad core and 1G RAM product...

i need to do it, and it helps a lot on the lags here and there... some apps also did not mange to launch properly, so i try to use task manager to clean all task... u know what, just right after i do it i relaunch the app and it is running smooth and fine... i think there is something do with the firmware problem, on the Sammy side... S2 does not require to do so as per my fren statement... my rooted DZ with Sense 4.0 ICS ROM i did not do that also, my gf's stock Xperia Ray does not even do any task killing coz she duno what the hell is that or how to do it... but we will restart the phone once a week, i face this problem even after i just bought it for 2 days sweat.gif and pls do not tell me after i download all my needed apps i need to restart it... which i never do on both of the single core, no problem...

i hate that troublesome also, i have no choice but doing it for the smoothness...

BTW i duno y all ppl thought i'm a new user... I'm not have 3 Android device in 3 yrs and rooted my beloved DZ already...

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well as i already said, i never hate it... but the RAM management disappointed me... thats all... to discuss my view on the problem is a crime in this thread is a crime then i have nothing to say...
if you read the post properly i never said i hate the phone, but feel the RAM management screw up...
end of story...
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walauweh... ok... fanboys noted... thanks...

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