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rav3n82
post Aug 15 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Aug 15 2012, 05:03 PM)
anyone here running a Asus GTX670 TOP with a Gigabyte Z77 G1.Sniper 3 motherboard?  I have problem running the GPU on the X16 slots of the motherboard.  Just wondering anyone else encounter this problem.  icon_question.gif
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What sort of problems you're encountering? hmm.gif You may need to be more specific so that the folks here can help you out.
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post Aug 16 2012, 10:36 AM

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Some backup plans from AMD. tongue.gif

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AMD is planning to give further price cuts to its Radeon HD 7000 series lineup after the launch of NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 660 Ti. NVIDIA’s GTX 660 Ti is already awaited by many fans and mid-range gamers.

To be specific, AMD would announce price cuts on Radeon HD 7850/ HD 7870 and Radeon HD 7950. The Radeon HD 7950 recently got a price cut from $450 to $350 for reference models. The retail price of NVIDIA’s GTX 660 Ti is set at $299 so our guesstimate is that the new price of HD 7950 would be around $329.

Coming to the 7870/7850, both models retail for $299/$249 respectively. A $20-$40 price cut is expected on these two models too. From current benchmarks and especially TweakTown’s early review, we came to know that for 1080P, GTX 660 Ti turned out the be the best GPU overall compared to HD 7870/ HD 7950.

To spice things up further, AMD has also planned a Boost version of the HD 7950 details of which can be found here.

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post Aug 16 2012, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Aug 16 2012, 10:40 AM)
ATI price cut again ! lolz. i guess no any supplier will carry ATI anymore.
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Yup, until the next generation HD 8xxx series comes out, i guess the only thing AMD could do is to reduce the price of its current models. We're also seeing some models being given a 'boost', e.g the HD 7970 GHz Edition, and now the HD 7950 also going to get some boost like its bigger brother. laugh.gif

Only a few hours now before official reviews of the GTX 660 Ti comes out. biggrin.gif Quite clear that this GTX 660 Ti will be faster than HD 7950 or 7870, but probably with AA/AF lowered due to the smaller memory bus width.


Added on August 16, 2012, 11:00 amSome leaked photos few hours ahead of the official GTX 660 Ti launch. Gigabyte and Galaxy cards spotted! biggrin.gif Wow, the Gigabyte card does indeed pack quite an impressive clock speed. smile.gif

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post Aug 16 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 16 2012, 11:59 AM)
-1 for blue PCB  laugh.gif
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LOL, you're right. Both also blue PCB. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2012, 02:52 PM

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Pretty impressive, everything (clock, memory speed, cooler) the same as the GTX 670 PE, except for the smaller memory bus width of 192-bit.

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Looky looky, what have we here? hmm.gif
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My preliminary testing revealed that the MSI GTX 670 Power Edition is indeed as fast as a stock GTX 680. I got 45.5 FPS in Unigine Heaven 3.0, while using GTX 680 i only get 46 FPS. Very small difference. laugh.gif The fans on the Twin Frozr IV cooler is indeed very quiet at idle, but at load you can hear a very very mild "turbine" kind of noise. Not intrusive at all in my opinion. Vast improvement over the Twin Frozr III that i've experienced with GTX 560 Ti HAWK, which was really loud to my taste. At load in BF3, the Twin Frozr IV manages to keep my card's temperature at max 69 C only. Quite impressive really. Max boost clock was observed at 1175MHz. smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 16 2012, 07:44 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2471840
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2472659

Assuming MSI GTX660Ti PE goes for about RM1100 as compared to the GTX670 PE for about RM1400, which would be a better buy? Bear in mind that there is a price difference of about RM300 here.

Initial reviews suggest that the performance of both are very close: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvid...iew/index4.html

And I heard GTX660Ti cannot handle AA?
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Hard to say. Best to see the official reviews first before deciding which to get. The smaller bus width should have some effect. Let's wait and see how they perform in the reviews.
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 16 2012, 08:06 PM)
as fast as stock gtx680 yes congrats! how about the 670 PE price vs leadtek gtx680 stock price? cool2.gif
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I think you should compare Leadtek GTX 670 instead? RM1099 vs. RM1499. shakehead.gif The 670 PE is a customized version, which in my opinion is expensive. On a tight budget, going for the Leadtek 670 reference is the clear choice.


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QUOTE(Cynox @ Aug 16 2012, 04:42 PM)
sorry, miss out the details.  blush.gif  The Asus GTX670 cannot run in both x16 PCIE3.0 of the Gigabyte Z77 G1. Sniper 3 - the screen will blackout for split seconds, sometime up to 2 seconds.  The GPU work fine in a P55 setup while an older GTX260 work perfectly on the motherboard.  rclxub.gif  Anyway, i am sending back the motherboard next week for further checking.  smile.gif
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It sounds like you got yourself the dreaded problem of the Asus 670 TOP, supposedly due to the unstable factory overclock. Have you tried to update the BIOS for this card? I have heard forumers here mentioned that it did solve the problem. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 16 2012, 09:28 PM)
u dont get me.. an expensive 670 PE only can be on par with the cheapest 680. so nothing to b happy of the 670 PE while u can get the cheapest 680
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I get exactly what you meant in the first place, that's why i don't want to go down that path with you. blush.gif If you were to really compare apple to apple like that, then getting the 670 PE is still cheaper by RM60 compared to the cheapest 680. You get a real awesome cooler, a card with nice aesthetics and default higher clocks that translates to a close to or on par in performance with a stock 680. For someone who just plug and play, i guess getting a 670 PE does seem feasible. There are indeed some reasons to be happy about. Of course, i'm speaking from an entirely different perspective all together, so really....if someone wants a 680 for the sake of having the cream of the crop, then getting the Leadtek is really a no brainer. Cheers.
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QUOTE(hackcremo @ Aug 16 2012, 09:56 PM)
gtx 660ti review are emerging on the net enormously..
it seem ati 7950 beat it on most of the test..
with the price tag of 660 ti, better get ati 7950..
for the first time i vote red camp..ha3..
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Not as close to the GTX 670 as we were initially told. biggrin.gif With the current pricing, the Leadtek GTX 670 at RM1099 is really a better choice. smile.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 10:12 AM

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Just sharing the summary from this very detailed review results of the GTX 660 Ti from X-bit.

Basically i would say it is positioned somewhere here: HD 7950 > GTX 660 Ti > HD 7870

Compared to HD 7870
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They are identical in price but not in performance. The Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition wins in DiRT Showdown, Sniper Elite V2 and (at the heavier settings) in Metro 2033: The Last Refuge, Aliens vs. Predator (2010), Sid Meier's Civilization V and Batman: Arkham City. But the rest of the games and benchmarks are won by the GeForce GTX 660 Ti. The latter is an average 12-17% faster at 1920x1080 and 6-13% faster at 2560x1440. That’s good but only if the GTX 660 Ti costs as much as the Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition costs now.
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Compared to HD 7950
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The Radeon HD 7950 improves AMD's position even more in the games where the Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition was superior and adds a win in Crysis 2 to that. The other tests are still won by the GeForce GTX 660 Ti, but by a smaller margin. Mathematically, the Radeon HD 7950 is faster than the GeForce GTX 660 Ti across all the tests (by -2 to +6% at 1920x1080 and by 5 to 14% at 2560x1440).
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Compared to GTX 670
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The gap is actually not very large. The GTX 660 Ti is an average 13-19% slower than the GTX 670 at 1920x1080 and 15-23% slower at 2560x1440. That’s not much considering that the GTX 670 costs 33% more. The effect of the narrow bus can be seen again, by the way: the gap is wider when antialiasing is turned on.
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post Aug 17 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 17 2012, 10:49 AM)
by the way bro.. at lingloong leadtek 680 rm1499 vs 670 PE rm1499
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I'm sure if you share them with lingloong, he will happily match the price. brows.gif

yoongkeen/zhen^wei - RM1439
rockrock - RM1400


Added on August 17, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Aug 17 2012, 10:57 AM)
not bad la the 660TI....now i am thinking should i sell my 670 & get the 660TI?

next year want to watercool d....not sure if there will be any WB for 660TI  hmm.gif
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Keep your 670 bro. The current pricing for 660 Ti also not really that attrative anyway. What 670 you're using btw?

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QUOTE(Alfsaw @ Aug 17 2012, 11:05 AM)
Damn nice price for those 670s
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If really tight on budget, the Leadtek 670 is really a no brainer. Super cheap man. You can't compare these expensive 670s from MSI, Gigabyte, Asus. They're not so worth it for those looking for price/performance.
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QUOTE(Alfsaw @ Aug 17 2012, 11:10 AM)
I agreed. Used a Leadtek GTX560Ti before, the brand really caters for the those whom are budget constrained. Shouldn't put unnecessary prejudice to a brand just cuz its cheap or reference card.
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Exactly, the thing is, some still think this way. Cheap = Problematic brand? Cheapo components? Bad quality?

Even premium brands / products are also prone to problems. Depends on luck, at the end of the day.
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QUOTE(terrance511 @ Aug 17 2012, 01:22 PM)
so, which should i go, leadtek 670 rm1150, asus 670 dc2 rm1400 or go for 660 ti ? thanks !
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What's your budget? The Leadtek GTX 670 is one of the best-bang-for-buck for this price range.
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Zerohunter, which is your favourite 670 so far? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Aug 18 2012, 07:11 PM)
Lol  , user experience and reading on articles r different things .  notworthy.gif Pro , some reference card users complain the noise but the others not even all the reference card built r the same , so please let the owner of leadtek gtx670 comment if u know what i mean  blush.gif

I had no idea y u sound so sarcastic , i just need some comment from leadtek GTX670 users.
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I do not have experience using a Leadtek 670, but I have tried the reference MSI 670. My personal experience is that, you will be able to hear a slight whoosh (blower) kinda sound during full load. Nothing obtrusive, really. So you shouldn't be too concerned about its noise. smile.gif Most often than not, it will be drowned out by your casing fans. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gazer8866 @ Aug 22 2012, 04:41 PM)
Hello,

Is that Nvidia GTX 560 can support 2 1920x1080 monitor? For example dell U2312HM?

Please advice. Thank!
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QUOTE(gazer8866 @ Aug 22 2012, 06:10 PM)
Why cannot have Nvidia Surround? Is that because of the dell monitor did not support for 3D?
Thank!
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A single GTX 560 should have no problems supporting 2 monitors. If you want to go for 3 monitor setup (Nvidia Surround), it is only possible through a SLI configuration (2 x GTX 560). Only the newer generation GTX 6xx series allows for Nvidia Surround (3 monitors) setup through a single card alone.

I'm not familiar with 3D setup, i believe it's only possible through monitors which offers 3D support only. AFAIK, the Dell U2312HM isn't one of them.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-sur...quirements.html

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QUOTE(rc2x @ Aug 22 2012, 07:04 PM)
I would rather use a can of compressed air. Do it outside the case, stop the fan from spinning and see those dust fly out.
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Lol, indeed. I've always manually clean my CPU heatsink or graphic cards anyway, so no diff to me. Regardless, this feature comes with the card by default, so just enjoy it. I will report in on my findings in a few months time to see if it really does reduce the dust buildup. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(0126910937 @ Aug 23 2012, 10:01 AM)
Is Galaxy card more expensive or cheaper compare with other brands of cards?
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From my experience, it is often priced somewhere in between the cheaper ones from Leadtek and the pricier ones from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte. If budget is of your upmost importance, go for Leadtek instead.

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