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post Sep 11 2013, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Sep 11 2013, 05:32 PM)
Hi,

Any agent can tell me more on the free whole-life insurance that comes with a certain fund. I heard about the free incidental insurance coverage before, this is something new to me. Please tell more, like how much coverage for each rm1 invested.
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can find the infor @ http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurServices/Insurance.aspx




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post Sep 11 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Sep 11 2013, 05:46 PM)
One is sukuk and the other is a balance fund. Both PB series.

If there is any Public series new funds being launched, better watch out... harbinger of doom!  tongue.gif

When market is hot and ongoing, the marketing department would go into overdrive to drum in more sales... easy pickings in sight when every Tom, d*** and Harry want to jump into the stock market bandwagon.

".... be fearful when everyone is greedy."

New Public funds = A harbinger and first indication of impending market crash.  tongue.gif

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stupid system censored a common guy's name.  biggrin.gif
System is dirty minded, same as its programmer.
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A sign...more fund coming uo..if there is CRASH...then is a opprtunity...
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post Sep 12 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(moko82 @ Sep 12 2013, 12:41 PM)
do you think the price will drop more for the new public sukuk fund??
yesterday i did invest some money into the new public sukuk fund.  sad.gif
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this juz personal view and what i read.

Listed Shariah stock requirement/compliance to take under sukuk not from conventional loan if they want to list as shariah.

For me is good, sukuk in M'sia there is demand for sukuk fund.

But come to cupon rate, i have no idea how to derive the cupon rate.

Furthmore shariab prohibt riba - (interest of money) , there the cupon rate not fix. Not mistaken based on profit sharing.

You can try Islamic FD, their rate not fix and some time is higher than conventional FD.

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...gest-sukuk.html

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-investors.aspx

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...al-rebound.aspx
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(moko82 @ Sep 18 2013, 09:59 AM)
i plan to open new fund too.
the Indonesia stock market is now start climbing
don't know whether it just bounce or what??
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UT buying for long term -min 3year.
Too concerning bounce or what too JSE may not right type investment for you.
Do look for long term investment & own homework more before invest.

You dont mind can wait the right time - may seek to put $$$ in FD.
I personaly wait- only scare no cash to invest. When crisis come - is your guts to enter to market and see jaw droping happen.

Invetment has risk - the reason you gain the return and paper loss when wrong.

Dont need to scare, mindset/ heart must steady to wait for return.
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post Sep 28 2013, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Sep 28 2013, 05:56 PM)
What apps you guys using on your smartphone or tablet to monitor your investments?

Need some more canggih app to keep track.
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you mean public mutual ? or investment infor/news/biz headline ?

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post Sep 29 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 29 2013, 12:04 PM)
Hi guys,

How is the calculation to estimate how many years i have to invest to reach my goal? My agent have told me before, but i forgot edy. Let me give example of my situation.

i'm doing DDI, RM200/month. i want to do this till my total investment is RM500,000. I'm investing in PIEF. How many years i have to invest? TQ in advance.
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TOTAL INVESTMEN= RM500K
DDI = rm200/month

Total number of month = rm500k/rm200
= 2500 monthly
= 208 year 3 month.




Another is Saving calculator

http://www.miniwebtool.com/savings-calcula...ed=12&years=100

Savings Calculator
Initial principal: 200
Monthly deposit: 200
Annual interest rate: 5 %
Interest compounded: Annually
Number of years: 100


Your Savings
Final Savings Balance: 6290360.63
Initial Investment plus Monthly Contributions: 24200
Total Interest Earned: 6266160.63
Year Balance
1 2610.00
2 5140.50
3 7797.52
4 10587.40
5 13516.77
6 16592.61
7 19822.24
8 23213.35
9 26774.02
10 30512.72
11 34438.36
12 38560.27
13 42888.29
14 47432.70
15 52204.34
16 57214.56
17 62475.28
18 67999.05
19 73799.00
20 79888.95
21 86283.40
22 92997.57
23 100047.45
24 107449.82
25 115222.31
26 123383.42
27 131952.59
28 140950.22
29 150397.74
30 160317.62
31 170733.50
32 181670.18
33 193153.69
34 205211.37
35 217871.94
36 231165.54
37 245123.81
38 259780.01
39 275169.01
40 291327.46
41 308293.83
42 326108.52
43 344813.95
44 364454.64
45 385077.38
46 406731.24
47 429467.81
48 453341.20
49 478408.26
50 504728.67
51 532365.10
52 561383.36
53 591852.53
54 623845.15
55 657437.41
56 692709.28
57 729744.74
58 768631.98
59 809463.58
60 852336.76
61 897353.60
62 944621.28
63 994252.34
64 1046364.96
65 1101083.21
66 1158537.37
67 1218864.24
68 1282207.45
69 1348717.82
70 1418553.71
71 1491881.40
72 1568875.47
73 1649719.24
74 1734605.20
75 1823735.46
76 1917322.23
77 2015588.35
78 2118767.76
79 2227106.15
80 2340861.46
81 2460304.53
82 2585719.76
83 2717405.75
84 2855676.03
85 3000859.84
86 3153302.83
87 3313367.97
88 3481436.37
89 3657908.19
90 3843203.60
91 4037763.78
92 4242051.96
93 4456554.56
94 4681782.29
95 4918271.40
96 5166584.97
97 5427314.22
98 5701079.93
99 5988533.93
100 6290360.63

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 29 2013, 12:44 PM)
Before this i think my agent said to use safe value at 10%. I know we can only estimate/assume because who can predict future right? I just want to know how many years to reach my goal, using estimated annualized return at 10%.
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Calc your self.
http://www.miniwebtool.com/savings-calcula...nded=1&years=30
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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 29 2013, 12:48 PM)
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Thank you for the calculator link. It takes around 50 years for me to reach my goal if the annual interest is 5%.
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juz do it...
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post Sep 29 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 29 2013, 01:06 PM)
I dont know if u guys understand or not (or i'm the one who is confuse here) about the 10% i'm talking. What my agent said, the longer the investment time is, the better. So, referring to picture below, she said if my investment time is 30 years, it is safe to use 10% annual interest rate. She didnt say it will be exactly 10%, some fund will perform better and some will under perform. But 10% is safe for the 30 years.

user posted image

That is why i'm using 10% annual interest rate.
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In investment there no such guarnatee 10% return. The sample you given is sweet illustration for us to start saving.

How old are you ?

Im not to destory your saving plan, but when come to works and economic - our WORLD Financial system hv same flaw sometime- when too good repeated aka bubble there is correction happen- you might related to Asian Financial Crisis 97 and SubPrime Crisis 2008.

You must aware type of investment you invest becoz it come with a risk to have 10% gain.
You may need to do homework more before believe of what your agent saying. You hear the good thing, but they wont tell you the bad thing.
You dont worry, juz a tuition fee you learn to be Financial Genius.

If you juz started- you may try to undesrtand by slow invest the fund. Later you may interest to Low risk fund such and Bond fund. Then diversify your fund...later can go to property and stock.

If you have the fund return share to us...by time i invest may be different return. Time to time been..not all fund will return the same...some give you return 10% at 1year..subsequence drop like bird shit never wake up.....

Dont too concern of which fund can give 10%, which i/we wont know what will happen tomorow. To gain, you need to invest. What to invest do homework, you put in few factor- is own personal factor which may different each other opinion and needs.
Example theme fund are Reits, Property or OnG in equity type fund. Some are country theme like Indonesia or Singapore or Emerging Country.

Some scare of Equity type then can choose Bond Fund or Money Managment Fund. You must understand type of fund available in the market..which more that your money to invest. Disclamier i can suggest which fund, becoz i wont know yesterdar Hisotry may not represent future performance.
Some individual like history performance and etc....

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post Sep 29 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 29 2013, 01:10 PM)
Huhu. I already did this for about 2 years. I just want to set my goal, and estimate how many years can till can reach it. I want to set a different goal from a different source of investing (DDI and epf).
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you juz 2 year... I tell you my grandpa been doing for 60years. How old is my grandpa is 79year old..still everyday looking at stock to invest...

able patient and withstand heart attack see his stock plunge to zero value. It's require emotion and patient to gain from investment.

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 29 2013, 01:41 PM)
I'm 27. Yea, i know there is no guarantee in investment. But that 10% annual return my agent said is too sweet ke? What is more cautious value? 5%? I want to estimate/calculate when will i reach my goal. That is all. And can u explain what u mean (in the purple color)?
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purple color...one

Meanz i learn from mistake of believe ppl, there is no such guarantee 10% or 5% gain. If there is loss $$$, you treat the loss as pay for tuition fee to realize your mistake. But you gain knowledge..which your parent and school wont able to teach you.


So....keep reading lwn yat forum and post more question if you dont understand. We all happy when we free to answer you...


I cant explain more..need to find my wife at shopping mall.

By the way the sample is static contribution of x year with x%. You may need to factor when you hv increment and bonus you may need to invest more to archieve your goal. 30year is way long way with juz rm200 per monthly. Spending all you money you wont arhcieve your goal in short term..you may need to increase your saving. Increase your saving with x% factor also.

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 1 2013, 07:46 AM)
One side increases service charge

The other side imposed platform fee
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All Investment want money...Pray IB dont increase broker fee.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 15 2013, 04:07 PM)
Hi just want to ask a simple question here:

I have been looking for a chance to buy Public Bond Fund for few years but up to current it is still closed for investment due to investment quota full. I really have no clue.

Should I say it's only when market crash and more people selling their Public Bond Fund then only I have chance to buy?
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there other bond fund available in Public Mutual to choose. Sales charges has increased 1% since 1 oct 2013

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QUOTE(Readable @ Nov 10 2013, 04:42 PM)
izit people want higher return but less risk so they choosing bond fund?
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Higher return come with higher risk.

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QUOTE(Readable @ Nov 10 2013, 07:34 PM)
yah, i understand this, actually my question is y people choosing bond fund as there is a risk compare to FD and lower return compare to equity.
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you have answer...return higher than FD.

FD basically is BANK fix income product to their bank customer and part of bank business way taking deposit to give loan.

While BOND is a structure fix income security which promise given by a enterprise/company(NON BANK) to loan money rather borrow thru commercial bank.

Loan money from bank the interest may be higher and volatile rate, the reason enterprise/company may be prefer using BOND to gain financial, only way attract investor by giving higher than FD rate.

By LAW FD is only offer by bank, non other than bank which take/put your money in their account by return % rate is Investment structure.

Furthermore BANK FD is insured by PIDM up to rm250k max, and always NOT categorize as investment product.

Sharing how bank making money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

You try to google BOND and FD definition.

Bond definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_(finance)

Recently BOND ipo; maybe you ineterst to apply.
http://www.danainfra.com.my/index.php?opti...id=69:frontpage

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QUOTE(Readable @ Nov 13 2013, 05:36 PM)
Now im looking for below few fund,

PUBLIC SINGAPORE EQUITY FUND (for long term invest)
PUBLIC OPTIMAL GROWTH FUND
PUBLIC INDEX FUND
PUBLIC INDUSTRY FUND
PUBLIC SMALLCAP FUND (Not open for investment)

planning to invest by EPF,
PUBLIC ISLAMIC SELECT ENTERPRISES FUND (only for EPF investment)
PUBLIC ISLAMIC DIVIDEND FUND

Any comment for me?  blink.gif
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are u planning to do ONE LUMP SUM or regular TOP UP?
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QUOTE(Readable @ Nov 13 2013, 06:19 PM)
Lump sum possibly.
Maybe regular for optimal growth.
and both PUBLIC ISLAMIC DIVIDEND FUND & PUBLIC ISLAMIC SELECT ENTERPRISES FUND for EPF invest.
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duration to keep? do you expectation to withdraw $$$ , example new car, renovation, children edu, new hse, open business..etc
or Purely Retirement income.
Pls bear with me since we don't hv background of you. Best you get Financial planner to advice you, i can brief as below few scenario i can think;

Few info investor must aware by investor
Current market hv move peak now under correction .
In every 10year; there will/maybe having a financial crisis.
We cant/don't time the market in UT investment.

I suggest below alternate way can practice/meet your personal financial
Case 1) You age below 45 or Investment duration of 15year
You can practice lump sum as you not keen/listen/worry of the market every 10year.

Case 2) You maybe planning to to use the money less than 10year or Saving cum Investment
You can practice regular contribution slowly deduct. If you hv flexi mortage, you can put your money in the account to be deduct. Able to save the mortgage interest and regular saving. or you may interest to put in Bond fund..


Above juz example scenario i can think , the most important is your Financial and Risk Profile

Do you own risk profiling; then you able to select type of fund meet your profile
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/InvestmentP...owYourRisk.aspx
http://www.bankislam.com.my/en/Pages/RiskP...stionnaire.aspx
http://www.cimbclicks.com.my/content/einvest-guide.html
http://www.hsbc.com.hk/1/2/hk/investments/ut
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/artic...k_Profiling.pdf
http://www.pacificmutual.com.my/?mobj=001&...content&pid=209

If you done above profiling, then you able to understand which fund that suitable you.

Disclaimer , is my 2sen and other sifu can provide different opinion/view/thought/suggestion of mine.
My suggestion not the best. nod.gif

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Want to do switching is sell $$$ the current fund and move the $$$ to new fund.

Each fund has different NAV, like buying Kancil and switch Myvvi every year to avoid depreciation value by buying new one and sell the old one.Juz a sample. flex.gif

Regular Swtiching wont BENEFIT/Shortterm cash profit/Formula can over take Fund manager, becoz the entry price enter NAV and distribution will be a gap different when switching. Not all the time swtiching you get a positive gap everytime. Market alwasy volatile.

There ppl who do so(SWITCHIN) before fund the distribution declare, switch to fund those fund after/declare distribution ; simple reason DONT want the FUND got TAX give to Gov. icon_idea.gif , Not everytime the GAP is postive.

I didnt include the SC and Switch fee and etc in 1st year which you may forgotten eaten your 5.5%.

Example NAV buy Fund A is 0.50 sen, after 11 month or 1 month before distribution, may not know what the Distribution. Let said the Fund A rise to 0.60, tink hv earn 0.10 sen - you may switch - to those other FUND B after distribution.

Not everytime the fund can rise 0.10sen after 11 month, we may not know the future outlook. It may rise to 0.60 on the month 6 and move average back to 0.52 sen on the 11month. The gap is very important if want to play short or regular switching or luckily to see so everytime. UT not like stock, which ppl can spread rumor on individual to rise or speculation on individual on particular date.UT is collection of pool of stock which has fixed financial day, and not speculative by individual stock by a market of the fund investing.

The risk taken is to avoid the distribution and making assumption it will rise in every fund. Some fund may stuck the range 0.50 - 0.55 so to other fund as well with smaller, there wont any Benefit when do so when the fund NAV move small varying with 1 year.
Comparedoing switching after 3year, becoz outlook equities not good and want to move to safer/less volatile fund like bond fund.

There is a risk the NAV switch fund will go UP, becoz the NAV not alwasy will rise but depend on the market of the fund.
If investor never do research properly/or knowing the market outlook may loss juz to play short like stock.

Juz my 2sen...Dont time the market in UT, not everytime is correct.
UT is not investment for less than 1 year, is alwasy long term above 3year.
UT is alwasy associate OLD MAN like me...cannot get heart attack.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 20 2013, 09:20 PM)
My PISEF price now very high liao....

I wanna take profit, sell and buy into low NAV; how about "snicker lol" PCSF? It's NAV is now below its IPO price.

Good rite?

Xuzen
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 20 2013, 09:35 PM)
Won't tell.... you guess lar.

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You buy...then I switch into.


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