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post Sep 29 2013, 12:48 PM

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Thank you for the calculator link. It takes around 50 years for me to reach my goal if the annual interest is 5%.
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post Sep 29 2013, 01:06 PM

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I dont know if u guys understand or not (or i'm the one who is confuse here) about the 10% i'm talking. What my agent said, the longer the investment time is, the better. So, referring to picture below, she said if my investment time is 30 years, it is safe to use 10% annual interest rate. She didnt say it will be exactly 10%, some fund will perform better and some will under perform. But 10% is safe for the 30 years.

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That is why i'm using 10% annual interest rate.
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post Sep 29 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 29 2013, 12:50 PM)
juz do it...
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 29 2013, 12:51 PM)
rclxms.gif always better to start investment early....just select well.
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Huhu. I already did this for about 2 years. I just want to set my goal, and estimate how many years can till can reach it. I want to set a different goal from a different source of investing (DDI and epf).
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post Sep 29 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 29 2013, 01:30 PM)
In investment there no such guarnatee 10% return. The sample you given is sweet illustration for us to start saving.

How old are you ?

Im not to destory your saving plan, but when come to works and economic - our WORLD Financial system hv same flaw sometime- when too good repeated aka bubble there is correction happen- you might related to Asian Financial Crisis 97 and SubPrime Crisis 2008.

You must aware type of investment you invest becoz it come with a risk to have 10% gain.
You may need to do homework more before believe of what your agent saying. You hear the good thing, but they wont tell you the bad thing.
You dont worry, juz a tuition fee you learn to be Financial Genius.

If you juz started- you may try to undesrtand by slow invest the fund. Later you may interest to Low risk fund such and Bond fund. Then diversify your fund...later can go to property and stock.
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I'm 27. Yea, i know there is no guarantee in investment. But that 10% annual return my agent said is too sweet ke? What is more cautious value? 5%? I want to estimate/calculate when will i reach my goal. That is all. And can u explain what u mean (in the purple color)?
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post Sep 29 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 29 2013, 01:30 PM)
Dont too concern of which fund can give 10%, which i/we wont know what will happen tomorow. To gain, you need to invest. What to invest do homework, you put in few factor- is own personal factor which may different each other opinion and needs.
Example theme fund are Reits, Property or OnG in equity type fund. Some are country theme like Indonesia or Singapore or Emerging Country.

Some scare of Equity type then can choose Bond Fund or Money Managment Fund. You must understand type of fund available in the market..which more that you money to invest. Disclamier i can suggest which fund, becoz i wont know yesterda Hisotry may not represent future performance.
Some individual like history performance and etc....
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As i said in previous post, i invest in PIEF. My agent suggest that for me 2 years ago. She said that fund is equity. Most of it is in Malaysia, only small portion is outside. And i'm asking how to calculate the time (in years) for me to achieve my goal. i use 10% annual return because my agent said it is a safe value for long term investment. If 10% is unrealistic, please tell me a more realistic one.

I want to set different goals for my investment (DDI and epf). I want shorter period for DDI and longer for EPF.
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post Sep 29 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 29 2013, 01:50 PM)
purple color...one

Meanz i learn from mistake of believe ppl, there is no such guarantee 10% or 5% gain. If there is loss $$$, you treat the loss as pay for tuition fee to realize your mistake. But you gain knowledge..which your parent and school wont able to teach you.
So....keep reading lwn yat forum and post more question if you dont understand. We all happy when we free to answer you...
I cant explain more..need to find my wife at shopping mall.
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Ok bro. Understood what u meant. I wont accept all what my agent said, i will ask for second opinion too. Thank you for ur reply and enjoy ur weekend.
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post Sep 29 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Sep 29 2013, 02:57 PM)
The table is a scam job!

$100 per month for 30 years @ 10% compounded monthly = $227.933 (or $227,932.53 to be exact.)
The 10% annual rate was simply divided by 12 months, to get the monthly compounded rate of 0.83333%.

The correct monthly compounded rate is 0.7974% if the annual rate is 10%.
Using this correct monthly compounded rate, it would only give $207,929.27.

And let's be realistic and put in $95 instead of $100 monthly... yeah, I know the service charge is 5.5%; but I'm giving you 0.5% discount since you're special client, okay?  tongue.gif

The final total in 360 months (30 years) is then $197,532.81.

To get 500k, you'll need to increase it to about $254 per month.

Then keep fingers crossed for 360 months that the fund returns 10% monthly compounded each and every month without fail.  biggrin.gif
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Do u mind showing me the calculation? This is what I want to learn. Hehe. TQ in advance!
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post Sep 30 2013, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Sep 29 2013, 03:46 PM)
I using MS Excel... the closest math explanation is in this link http://superuser.com/questions/352981/exce...aily-and-weekly.

But the excel should be =(POWER((1+A1),(1/B1))-1)*100%, to convert it to percentage.
Where:
A1 is your annual rate
B1 is the number of interest periods.

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And to verify it, use a table as follows... with simple formulas, then drag it down to 360.
0  95.00  0.00000%  - 
1  95.00  0.79741%  95.76
2  190.76  0.79741%  192.28
3  287.28  0.79741%  289.57
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359  194,325.54  0.79741%  195,875.11
360  195,970.11  0.79741%  197,532.81
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TQ very much sir. I'll be doing some calculation on my own using the formula u give. May i ask one more thing, what is the realistic annual interest rate to use to estimate this? Is 10% like my agent told me is too good? I know we cant predict it accurately, but base on ur experience, what is the realistic value?

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