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cybermaster98
post Oct 9 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(unitron @ Oct 9 2012, 08:31 PM)
All the speed limits in this country doesn't make practical sense to me or the drivers I know.

The North-South highway should have speed limit of 160 km/h for the 110km/h stretch and 140 km/h for the 90 km/h stretch.

Speed limits on normal road should be between 80 - 100 km/h.

Of course speed limits don't apply to those who make the rules...  they have police escorts or saman can be 'waived'
While i agree that speed limits in Malaysia should be revamped, i dont think it should be raised to the levels mentioned. The NSE design speed limit is 130kmph so the current speed should be increased. As for normal roads, i think 90kmph is sufficient.

There are factors which determine speed limits:

1) General driver skills & ethics
2) Type of vehicles and safety systems used
3) Traffic
4) Road design
5) Terrain
6) Enforcement of traffic laws

Most if not all of the factors mentioned above are severely lacking in this country. The rot / cancer begins from the licensing stage whereby its getting easier to obtain a driving licence through uncontrolled corruption. Same goes for the road design and enforcement. Both severely affected by rampant corruption. And because of our national car, there is little focus on equiping cars with the latest safety features which are mandatory in most Western countries.

So before speed limits are raised, agencies like JPJ must first be revamped starting from the head.
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Oct 10 2012, 04:12 PM)
Ha....they won't so is depends on our luck. Based on my experience I only see them about 10am, about 9am never.

I also always stick to the speed limit, just one time overtaking the bus with 100km/h that time, so sure take few more seconds to overtake. Then behind one car come from far very fast almost hit me, make me have to accelerate..... shakehead.gif  so sometimes is out of control.
The rule is you should check before you overtake. Not just blindly overtake.
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post Oct 11 2012, 08:48 AM

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Bad news for some of us. Seems that the camera at Slim River on the North South Expressway is malfunctioning. Its now snapping those who are travelling even at 90kmph. Many people got snapped this morning.
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Oct 11 2012, 09:14 AM)
Then the road users can sue them if they still send the summon because the speed limit is 110 and yet they dare to send the summon to the users with the speed stated like 100- 110
Unless they ammend the summons to show a speed in excess of 120kmph.
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post Oct 13 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(wb4j @ Oct 13 2012, 11:39 AM)
AES is nothing but a new cash cow for the govt their cronies. I really do not see how a car speeding above 90 could be dangerous. I do see ppl maintaining speed at 90 and start to fall asleep, that is dangerous to me.

If the govt is serious about public safety, perhaps they should punish offenders with point system, hang their licience rather than issuing millions of summon to rob the poor rakyat.
Agreed. Just imagine this. They snapped 63,558 offenses using 14 cameras in just 11 days. That's like 412 offences per camera per day. So imagine when all 1000 plus cameras are operational. That would mean >420,000 offenses snapped per day. So if all 420K get the fine of RM300, the agencies / cronies involved would get RM126 million per day.

If this is not a money making scheme, then i dont know what is. vmad.gif

They keep on saying its a similar system implemented overseas. Yes i agree. The system is similar but in those countries the speed limits are carefully regulated and ammended to suit actual road conditions. You wont get a speed limit of 30kmph on a single lane Federal trunk road like we have near Teluk Intan.

But kudos to the DAP led Penang state government which banned the installation of the AES system until a more detailed study is completed. thumbup.gif

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post Oct 13 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(twins9 @ Oct 13 2012, 04:11 PM)
I really dont know what speed to drive anymore.  Silk is 70km/hr and some areas 50km/hr.  Saga highway is between 50-90km/hr, you need to keep looking at signboards instead of other cars.  Isnt that dangerous?

I cant even use my cruise control as the speed keep changing on Saga toll road!
In Germany, the cars GPS system automatically picks up roadside speed limits and warns you so you dont need to actually focus on the signs at all. Thats what i call a truly efficient system. Malaysia rushed into this AES before ensuring the support infrastructure was in place first. Hence why we need a better and more intelligent Gov in future unlike the bungling clowns we've had for the past 55 years. vmad.gif
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(curaptz @ Oct 15 2012, 08:34 AM)
they banned AES???

confused rclxub.gif  I see pulau pinang in the camera location list...
The list is the INTENDED locations for the AES cameras. TO date only 14 are operational. The rest will be installed in the next 18 months.
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post Oct 17 2012, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(synetics2k @ Oct 15 2012, 10:03 AM)
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Latest summon i get from AES camera

Slim River Expressway...
This isnt AES. AES started 3rd week of September and the AES pics are high definition. You can see your face clearly. The summons also looks different. The one you got is from PDRM. AES summons are from JPJ.

Please be reminded that AES will not replace the PDRM cameras. PDRM will still go around placing their portable speed traps at the usual locations. Slim River & Tapah are some of those famous locations.

As for the amount, if you get a RM300 summons from PDRM, then its 'operasi' so you get the maximum compund. Yours came under the Raya operasi hence the max compund. At other times it starts from RM150 and increases as time goes by.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...2240&sec=nation

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post Oct 17 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Oct 17 2012, 10:38 AM)
just wanna chk...do they snap during night time on highway for speeding?
The AES system is 24 hours.
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post Oct 23 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(tnchsg @ Oct 23 2012, 09:56 AM)
it is the aes camera which detect traffic light only. it is located near jalan pasir puteh, ipoh
This location is a traffic light location.
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post Oct 24 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(alg7_munif @ Oct 24 2012, 11:43 AM)
Every time there is a news report on an accident, this phrase is always mentioned "dipercayai dipandu laju". Why must speed be associated with dangerous driving?

In Germany, there are some stretches on the Autobahn where there is not speed limit and people there are legally driving way faster than we are used to here. I have a german driving license and I have been driving in Germany at speed in excess of 180kmh without getting any summon. Here even at 130kmh, you will get a summon just because some people think that 130kmh is considered dangerous compared to 110kmh.
I think you need to take a few factors into consideration when comparing Germans with Malaysians:

1) Driver's expertise
2) Drivers ethics
3) Respect for the law and road signages
4) Type of cars
5) Road conditions
6) Enforcement

If you look at these 6 factors, ull easily see why we cant actually increase speed limits on roads in Malaysia. The NSE could probably be raised to 130kmph max but thats about it. But other roads need to be re-evaluated to administer the correct speed limits.
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post Nov 5 2012, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Oct 30 2012, 05:24 PM)
According to advanced country's research, be prepared to die in Pekatan-led states.
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/wcm/road_saf...cident_risk.htm

Assessing potential effectiveness of speed reduction measures

Based on work by Nilsson in Sweden, a change in average speed of 1 km/h will result in a change in accident numbers ranging between 2% for a 120 km/h road and 4% for a 50 km/h road. This result has been confirmed by many before and after studies of different speed reduction measures. This relationship is used by other Scandinavian countries and by Australian and Dutch safety engineers.

A similar relationship is assumed in Britain, based on empirical studies by Taylor, where changes in accident numbers associated with a 1 km/h change in speed have been shown to vary between 1% and 4% for urban roads and 2.5% and 5.5% for rural roads, with the lower value reflecting good quality roads and the higher value poorer quality roads.
You need to get your facts right. Nobody is contradicting the effectiveness of the AES system. All people are saying is the implementation needs to be more effective and proper 'systems' need to be in place before the AES can be effective. Ive replied to you before and ill repeat it here again.

In Europe, speed limits are regulated and agreed upon by the local councils taking into account traffic volume, road design speed, urban development plans, climate, land geography and traffic zoning. In many countries in Europe, there are standard speed limits which are implemented across the country e.g for city centres, education zones and areas of lifestock. There are also stipulated limits which are enforced in bad weather or when approaching interchanges. And drivers need to be aware of all these limits when applying for their driving licence.

This, generally has not happened in Malaysia which is why you can get speed limits of 90kmph on a trunk road while the MEX highway with 3 beautifully constructed lanes has the same speed limit i believe. You also have numerous cases where the road has been upgraded to dual lane carriageways but the speed limit is still about 15 years old.

Firstly, for the AES system to work well in Malaysia, the speed limits would need to be regulated to demonstrate uniformity. In our current scenario, when the AES system is fully operational, alot of our attention while driving will be on keeping an eye on various speed limit signboards. This generally shouldn't be the case. If the speed limits are regulated, everybody would know that when you approach city limits for instance, your speed limit would be say 40kmph and you can then slow down. In many European countries, cars with on board GPS systems automatically track current speed limits and warn the driver. So the driver can stay focussed on the road instead of keeping an eye out for warning signs. Yes u still need to be aware of road signages of course but you wont need to be continously on the lookout for varying speed limits.

Secondly, the speed limits would need to be communicated in an effective manner to new and current drivers so that everybody is aware. Knowing these limits must be made mandatory to passing the driving exam. Existing drivers should be informed through the media as well. Also some of the locations of the AES are silly and surely not for the purpose of reducing accidents at that stretch.

Thirdly, Malaysia needs to beef up enforcement of traffic laws. Its pointless having the AES system to catch speeding vehicles and those who beat traffic lights but nothing much is done to eradicate blatant corruption by JPJ & PDRM which is becoming worse day by day. The corruption within JPJ has become so bad that now you dont even need to go to JPJ in order to get a driving licence if you pay the right person the right amount of money. How many of our lorry and truck drivers actually went through a driving test before getting their heavy vehicle licence? How many trucks out there have 'potong' chasis which 'passed' Puspakom inspections without even having the truck in Puspakom for an inspection? Ever wondered why certain overly laden timber lorries can pass through a JPJ roadblock easily while others get stopped? Try checking the stickers they have on their windscreens and you'll see a pattern. I know all this as first hand information btw.

In short, many Malaysians who oppose the AES are angry that somehow the Government is suddenly so keen on getting the AES system operational while nothing is being done to stop the rot among our enforcement agencies which should be the first priority if the Gov is serious about invoking a culture of respecting the law among Malaysians.

As long as JPJ continues to put unskilled and unqualified drivers on the road daily, the purpose of the AES will still be defeated. Accidents at the AES loctions might decrease but that doesnt mean accidents at other areas wont increase. The AES is supposedly a secondary system to lower accident rates but in Malaysia its being regarded as the primary method which should not be the case. Its like continously taking Panadol for a headache without dealing with the real cause of the headache.


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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 5 2012, 09:47 AM)
Any idea how far can this AES shoot? 1km away? perhaps somebody can enlighten me please? thanks.
Its only about 100-150m.
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QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 6 2012, 12:07 AM)
I used to think that that was the case but the other day when I was snapped, I doing was <95kph so that theory is flawed.
Its not thoery, its a fact. All speed cams have a 10kmph buffer. Its due to the accuracy of the speed cams themselves and human error. Its even confirmed by the minister. So if you were flashed in a 90kmph zone while travelling at <95kmph then its 1 of 2 things:

1) You were not the one being flashed at
2) Your speedometer isnt accurate

I think No 1 is more likely. Either way, if u get a summons for travelling at <95kmph at a 90kmph zone, you would surely win a case in court. My guess is that you wont be getting any summons for this. Ive had friends who were flashed by the AES at Slim River while doing 100kmph and till now (>1 mth) no summons.


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Just kena the AES camera near Slim River early this morning. I totally forgot about it. I usually slow down but today forgot. Damn!


Added on November 15, 2012, 7:50 am
QUOTE(JML @ Nov 9 2012, 12:51 AM)
north south highway near slim river.
confirm flashed no matter what speed u drive..

btw, can u guys confirm currently apart from the 12 locations for trial run, any other locations already install AES ?
Well ive heard cases of this AES flashing you at even 90kmph but not always. Most of the time when i drive here at 110-115kmph, its fine. I only kena tis morning but that's cuz i was driving at 130kmph. Damn!

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QUOTE(ralf @ Nov 15 2012, 11:59 PM)
I just back to Penang, passby Taiping Utara and that small little box was flashing at me, my speed? 110km/h....dont tell me they are going to issue me with 111km/h speeding ticket.  doh.gif  doh.gif
Possible causes:

1) It could have been flashing at another vehicle
2) Your car's GPS speed was 121kmph min which would mean your speedometer accuracy is poor
3) Malfunction of the AES camera
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post Nov 17 2012, 09:57 AM

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Keep this in your cars at all times. If ure stopped and the policeman wasnt visible i guess this gives you grounds to argue. Works especially for those hidden speed traps.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4524&sec=nation



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post Nov 27 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(jenli_84 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:37 PM)
from KL to simpang pulai got how many AES? traveling to cameron thursday
1 only. Just before the Slim River exit.

 

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