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> [CLOSED] Complain against salvator, Jonny C

sengih
post Aug 5 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 4 2012, 01:10 PM)
How do we know salvator is the one who sold you the lens? Salvator already edited the thread that there are no more details of the item being sold.

Also, even if nikon reveal the 1st owner name later, how do we know if salvator used a different name to claim warranty thus not matching his real name in Lyn? Serial number is still the best.


Added on August 5, 2012, 2:43 pm
QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 02:13 PM)
What I see now is working adult bullying/intimidating a student into paying him.

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Sadly, people see this case as a student knowingly trying to cheat a working adult into buying a faulty product.

This post has been edited by sengih: Aug 5 2012, 02:43 PM
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post Aug 5 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 02:13 PM)
Wait, so now you're saying Izwan's dispute is 2 months too late? How can I not involve Izwan in this? He has the lens, he has the 1st police report and both Nikon report. What I see now is working adult bullying/intimidating a student into paying him.

Look, if salvator does not claim responsibility, I have no money to refund Izwan. I'm not doing business on LYN, I'm neither a shop nor company, not earning or anything. What Izwan can do now to get back his money and prove that that lens indeed is still the same lens, he has to get that name on the 1st report from Nikon.
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Hello dumbdumb, Izwan bought the lens FROM YOU not the first owner. You have to settle it with Izwan!

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jul 16 2012, 02:48 PM)
First off, I said I got it from a friend, I didn't say I'm selling it in behalf of my friend. Do you still have the sms? Or do you want me to post them here?

As for the photo if you can read properly, I said photo by the lens, not photo of the lens. Photo of the actual lens itself is posted outside the spoiler. Now the thread hasn't been edited since 3rd of May. I posted a total of 2 photos of the lens, one of which I moved to a new link, as follows:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


The actual date that I received the complaint regarding the broken lens is on 1st July. As stated, I suggested him to return it Nikon Centre for repairs.

That's all the clarification I'm going to make.
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So salvator is your friend rclxms.gif

Kudos to Silverfire? LOL shakehead.gif
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post Aug 5 2012, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(umsholyghost @ Aug 5 2012, 03:30 PM)
Hello dumbdumb, Izwan bought the lens FROM YOU not the first owner. You have to settle it with Izwan!
So salvator is your friend  rclxms.gif

Kudos to Silverfire? LOL shakehead.gif
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Yeap...an accomplice whistling.gif
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post Aug 5 2012, 03:48 PM

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Serial number? I don't recognise that serial number.

Can Izwan prove that its the same lens I sold him? No.
Does the receipt have the serial number of lens or my name on it? No.
Does the first service invoice have my name on it? No.
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post Aug 5 2012, 03:52 PM

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So you guys ask me to ask first owner for clarification. When I do, he's an accomplice.

Kudos to all the assholes here.
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post Aug 5 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 03:52 PM)
So you guys ask me to ask first owner for clarification. When I do, he's an accomplice.

Kudos to all the assholes here.
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You got nuked so bad because your statement keep contradicting your other statement. Obviously you going to get nuked by everyone mate.
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post Aug 5 2012, 05:11 PM

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salvator just called me told the maximum he'd refund is RM300. Consequently, I can refund Izwan that amount and Izwan can keep the lens.

If Izwan cannot agree to that amount, Izwan can(if yet) file a police report against me and I can file a police report against salvator. As simple as that.

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post Aug 5 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Aug 5 2012, 04:14 PM)
You got nuked so bad because your statement keep contradicting your other statement. Obviously you going to get nuked by everyone mate.
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Like what?
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post Aug 5 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 05:11 PM)
salvator just called me told the maximum he'd refund is RM300. Consequently, I can refund Izwan that amount and Izwan can keep the lens.

If Izwan cannot agree to that amount, Izwan can(if yet) file a police report against me and I can file a police report against salvator. As simple as that.
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RM500. Deal? brows.gif thumbup.gif Considering u're still a student...and that lens u can keep...it's useless already...
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post Aug 5 2012, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 03:48 PM)
Serial number? I don't recognise that serial number.

Can Izwan prove that its the same lens I sold him? No.
Does the receipt have the serial number of lens or my name on it? No.
Does the first service invoice have my name on it? No.
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Are you trying to imply that TS was trying to frame you using the Same model lens you sold him and with the Exact serial number? Too many coincidences ,you yourself would know its impossible.
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post Aug 5 2012, 07:20 PM

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Please consider my offer icon_rolleyes.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 5 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(umsholyghost @ Aug 5 2012, 03:30 PM)
Hello dumbdumb, Izwan bought the lens FROM YOU not the first owner. You have to settle it with Izwan!
So salvator is your friend  rclxms.gif

Kudos to Silverfire? LOL shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 05:18 PM)
Like what?
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Check the post 24.
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post Aug 5 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Aug 5 2012, 05:58 PM)
RM500. Deal?  brows.gif  thumbup.gif Considering u're still a student...and that lens u can keep...it's useless already...
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Final? Because I wont accept the refund from salvator if you do not agree to that amount and if salvator do not agree to the amount you demand, the police station will be the first place I'm visiting tomorrow.


QUOTE(seyuripa @ Aug 5 2012, 07:14 PM)
Are you trying to imply that TS was trying to frame you using the Same model lens you sold him and with the Exact serial number? Too many coincidences ,you yourself would know its impossible.
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I have no record for the serial number to begin with.


QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Aug 5 2012, 07:35 PM)
Check the post 24.
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Sorry, I really don't get the pun.
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post Aug 5 2012, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 07:49 PM)
Final? Because I wont accept the refund from salvator if you do not agree to that amount and if salvator do not agree to the amount you demand, the police station will be the first place I'm visiting tomorrow.
I have no record for the serial number to begin with.
Sorry, I really don't get the pun.
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RM300 not enough... sad.gif
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post Aug 5 2012, 10:41 PM

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Seriously I don't understand why you all so love to nuke Silver...
Go clarify with the 1st owner if he got any serial number; or maybe to admit the warranty WAS already void.

1st of whatever (EVERYTHING) discussed in both treads can be manipulated and god knows the truth.


Added on August 5, 2012, 10:44 pmAnd I would never see a conmen who really want to con you, still keeping everything updated, show himself in facebook/forum, kept original thread unedited, and the list go on...
IF I were the con man I wont even appear here to even let you nuke me...

This post has been edited by IamNOT: Aug 5 2012, 10:44 PM
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post Aug 5 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(IamNOT @ Aug 5 2012, 10:41 PM)
Seriously I don't understand why you all so love to nuke Silver...
Go clarify with the 1st owner if he got any serial number; or maybe to admit the warranty WAS already void.

1st of whatever (EVERYTHING) discussed in both treads can be manipulated and god knows the truth.


Added on August 5, 2012, 10:44 pmAnd I would never see a conmen who really want to con you, still keeping everything updated, show himself in facebook/forum, kept original thread unedited, and the list go on...
IF I were the con man I wont even appear here to even let you nuke me...
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To answer your questions,

First of all,how TS confronts with the original owner if TS isn't the person who deal with him and doesn't even know him at all. 'Salvator' known as the original owner was revealed after countless complaints have been made towards Silverfire. At least for me, I never ever thought Silverfire as a conman but he's indeed at fault for selling it unintentionally w/ knowing it was already faulty and not to refund TS.

"IF I were the con man I wont even appear here to even let you nuke me..." Not relevant to the case but here you go since you have asked http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2163000 A great example for you to refer.
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post Aug 5 2012, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(seyuripa @ Aug 5 2012, 11:24 PM)
To answer your questions,

First of all,how TS confronts with the original owner if TS isn't the person who deal with him and doesn't even know him at all. 'Salvator' known as the original owner was revealed after countless complaints have been made towards Silverfire. At least for me, I never ever thought Silverfire as a conman but he's indeed at fault for selling it unintentionally w/ knowing it was already faulty and not to refund TS.

"IF I were the con man I wont even appear here to even let you nuke me..." Not relevant to the case but here you go since you have asked http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2163000 A great example for you to refer.
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Totally agree nod.gif


Added on August 6, 2012, 12:06 am
QUOTE(IamNOT @ Aug 5 2012, 10:41 PM)
Seriously I don't understand why you all so love to nuke Silver...
Go clarify with the 1st owner if he got any serial number; or maybe to admit the warranty WAS already void.

1st of whatever (EVERYTHING) discussed in both treads can be manipulated and god knows the truth.


Added on August 5, 2012, 10:44 pmAnd I would never see a conmen who really want to con you, still keeping everything updated, show himself in facebook/forum, kept original thread unedited, and the list go on...
IF I were the con man I wont even appear here to even let you nuke me...
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Wow bro...is it a coincidence your successful tradelist same design with silverfire?? hmm.gif brows.gif brows.gif whistling.gif

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Aug 6 2012, 12:10 AM
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post Aug 6 2012, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 07:49 PM)
Final? Because I wont accept the refund from salvator if you do not agree to that amount and if salvator do not agree to the amount you demand, the police station will be the first place I'm visiting tomorrow.

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You should refund full amount of what TS had paid you. Not 1 cent less. Both salvator and you (if salvator really do exist) have a lot more to lose with the police investigations and all.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 5 2012, 07:49 PM)
Final? Because I wont accept the refund from salvator if you do not agree to that amount and if salvator do not agree to the amount you demand, the police station will be the first place I'm visiting tomorrow.
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Aug 5 2012, 07:53 PM)
RM300 not enough... sad.gif
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Have already texted salvator.

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