it depends on your tolerance.. some people are blardy weaklings and the slightest shock to their bones they complaint of comfort problems...

if you put the foil and madone 7 side by side... i prefer the madone 7.. but the madone 7 is also a whole lot more expensive if i am not wrong... slightly aero, quite a light frame for climbing, stiff enough for most applications and funky brakes upfront and back... i like the madone 7 if i can ever afford one...

pure stiffness... i go with tarmac sl4 as i think the SL4 has one of the stiffest bottom brackets among the 3...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 4:11 pmnow the real reason comes out.. it's never about rubbing against your bibs isn't it...

u olang buntut gatal.. kena cocok sikit baru rasa selesa is it?

micro is already damn small lar... unless you have chun li's thighs...you'll never rub against it..


give kh cycle a call and see if they have those conti's.. think i saw they have a whole stack of conti's in the shop... but not sure if they have this that no one ever looks for...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 04:11 PM

tat's call the bike that can potentially land you in hot water...but look at it the other way...

you got no reasons to upgrade the brakes because there is nothing better to upgrade to... one less potential upgrade.. and no seatpost upgrade as well... that is 2 good reasons... stupid but true...

ini dia the chart.. but comparing against madone 6.9ssl lar.. and no foil yet...



i believe spez played with the numbers of their major rivals a bit... might have lowered them a bit to make themselves more hansem...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 04:15 PM

i believe the trek is not that bad hence i said spez might have manipulated the data a bit to show off their direct competitors which is the big brands like scott and trek... i don't think i can feel any difference between either bikes if i were given them... that's a mighty big number to be off by anyways..

what do we know with those number to begin with anyways... it might already be damn high compared to bikes we own currently...

the trek does have a ride tuned seat mass which flexes as forces gets sent up to the seat mass making it slightly comfortable without compromising parts of the frame where power transfer is critical...and don't forget... most importantly, the trek has a BB90 bottom bracket which is 90mm wide one while the spez has a BB30 bottom bracket that is 68mm wide.... that should not have made the bb stiffness so bad that it is on the other end of the scale going against the spez...there is simply something a bit wrong with the chart... no matter how bad the layup of the trek is... it should not be the weakest among the bb stiffness test with it's wider bb... i doubt the data a bit...

the trek madone 7 is gonna costs a sweet 5k usd while the s-works tarmac sl4 is gonna cost a less hurting 3.5k usd... even the madone six is still standing at a nice 4.5k ....

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:21 PM

wei... you remember one part forgot the other...

and it's delivered by USPS right to your door step...

yeah wor... orang kampung is more discreet... but no difference lar... inject at home or on site also sure got the same effect one... why let your riding buddies know... after they strip you of your qualifications ler...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 5:30 pmdrugs galore...






This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:30 PM

and the upgraded cera...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 5:38 pmthat is to make your buttocks firm up and shiny lar...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 5:53 pmyou'll be the envy of your friends


bet you can't take your eyes off the screen now can you

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:55 PM

how come i get the feeling that this thread is not talking about cycling anymore???

thanks to the leadership of vin_ann and miao... we are spiraling out of control

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:54 PM

because you always recommend epo

as you can see from the chart, the difference from sworks and normal specialize is only quite small... again it is chasing minor percentages....

whether it 2012 or 2013...no big deal... if there is a particular paint scheme you like in 2012 even better...if you like a 2013 , then you have to wait a bit unfortunately

nothing a lot of money can't fix

you can buy the spez here and use the case to bring it there

the problem is that the venge is not going to be as stiff as the tarmac even with much more bigger tubes all around... but the bigger tubes is causing a much rougher ride which sounds contradicting... i don't know how that works.. but that is the general consensus between the owners of this 2 bikes...

2013 and 2012? beats me... most probably the difference is even lesser than you think... they didn't mentioned any changes at all... most likely visual appearances only...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 7 2012, 02:20 PM

of course... you lose top end speed although by not a lot... i mean.. who can sustain 60kph for long stretches...

the thing is not a disadvantage... but rather a problem with finding the right gear when cruising along... you might find yourself in a situation that one gear up and the pedal stroke is too heavy and one gear down and you're spinning too fast...

that is always the problem with wide ratio cassettes...

some people might feel it.. some people don't... it depends which one you are...

53 - 36T? err... up to your preference..but it doesn't solve the cadence problems created by the wide ratio cassette...

put chunky peanut butter... cheaper alternative... and after ride.. can buy some bread and spread on it to makan


it'll become smooth peanut butter post ride

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 7 2012, 05:10 PM

wats so disturbing???

if i were to put this pic with that peanut butter sandwich side by side.. then it'd be disturbing...

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Added on November 7, 2012, 5:17 pmproblem with not enough meat...

i thought butt pain kasi tukar butt... or everday kasi SM until no feel anymore.. sit on saddle with thumbtacks also no feel that time...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 7 2012, 05:18 PM

you see... i am a weight loss expert... even marie france bodyline and christy chung will go out of business soon...

and you have to thank me because you will ride so much faster next week with the weight you lost...

* don't freak out lar miao... that is just the grease paper from a char siu pau... and those brownish thing is the remnants of the pau filling itself... why would you think a girl would stick her tongue out and go near a dirty diaper... it's gross you know... practically a PR disaster for her if her friends found out...

see the relation?



appetite back???

hope i don't need to sell you some appetton weight gain some months down the road... my weight loss methods are rather unorthodox but effective...

it could be some curry pau as well...



you know how those stuff gets so sloppy and all over the place...

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Added on November 7, 2012, 5:34 pmdreaded eh...

dread this...


ayam the law

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Added on November 7, 2012, 5:36 pmdamn...no more nutella at home...

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Added on November 7, 2012, 5:43 pmhere is a nice article on standard vs compact crank... not the cassette... jus comparing the crank with the smallest cog at the rear..

Are you man enough... to use a compact?

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 7 2012, 05:43 PM

there has never been hope..

didn't you watch "the day the earth stood still"... that is why klaatu had to come and destroy earth...

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Added on November 7, 2012, 6:00 pmsweet grapes of nature...

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Added on November 7, 2012, 6:31 pmk dudes... i am sorry i spoiled your appetites...

here is something to cheer up your day..



This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 7 2012, 06:31 PM

what happened to your chainring??? your bike took a tumble?

not the 65.1? i hope

it's called dopage

is it some kind of hint or what?

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Added on November 7, 2012, 10:01 pmboth of you suddenly decide you want to be a man after reading an article...

if i put up an article that says compact users are pus-sies... would you change your mind and go back to standard cranks again

jus yankin yer chains

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 7 2012, 10:01 PM

frankly... i don't see what damage it has done to skins as a business... with the lance armstrong case... does it affect me from buying a trek??? not really, i don't have the money anyways...does it affect me from buying oakleys??? not that i like them in the first place, but no it does not affect my decision... does it affect me from wearing nike apparels... absolutely no....

it is the same as every bit the political situation in you know where... lots of complaints and ideas.. but none that is logical and realistic and even worst.. no one wants to step up to take the baton and led the charge to changing what is so claimed required to be changed..stop banging on the door and start tearing it down because this people are not afraid of getting their doors banged on..

so, with the full length of the article.. it is by no hints what their intentions is other than continually bang on UCI's doors...and neither did they declare what they have in mind to do with the money from the lawsuit.. are they planning to push the money into a fund to establish an independent body to monitor athlete'd doping cases or any other purposely acts....

i don't think they are wrong.. but, somehow makes no sense in doing so...

apalar difference from your current micro.. in fact, this looks bigger and defeats the purpose you want to achieve in the first place...

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Added on November 8, 2012, 9:13 amnot until you realize the day your strap fails... the click type is better as long as they are made sturdy and tough... i hang my bike on the saddle rails and it practically sits on the mount.... still working today..

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 8 2012, 09:13 AM

u say leh...

mana ada kemungkinan lar...

propack

Size (L x W x H) 12.5 x 9 x 8 cm
4.9” x 3.5” x 3.1”

wedgepack II

Size (L x W x H) 12.5 x 8.5 x 9.5 cm
4.9” x 3.3” x 3.7”

i didn't manipulate the data here like spez...

it's like buying a pelican 1010 and 1020 case... almost no difference...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 8 2012, 09:26 AM