QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 26 2012, 10:21 AM)
PE H-Line ok lar for...mmm.....for now only 1 year old, personally, its better than when new, coz LCP push the low torque to acceptable level and almost all noise that plague the car for first few month (rear door, back seat, seat), all gone, either magically and DIY. Using better EO with same price.....Caltex Havoline semi even lowered the engine noise abit.
If 2nd hand car value is a key issue, Civic will be the one to go, rarely drop price, only goes up. Depreciation rate of Civic, IMO, is one of the best around vs other similar range. Of course don't go for the 7th gen 1.7cc one, that one got torque dip issue. 8 gen is good, engine no prob but 1.8cc is going to be a bit underpowered at low torque, better than PE anytime tho. FC is going to suffer a bit, imo, lebih makan sikit than PE but then again, its a MUCH bigger car and very comfortable with acceptable handling, unmodded.
Civic if I were to buy it i will still get the 2.0. XD
QUOTE(anep @ Sep 26 2012, 03:25 PM)
roughly how much is the halvoline? cant find in fnf thread.. saw one caltex EO dealer at sri gombak prima.. thinking of getting one while waiting cusco to arrive
one more, there's a cat's nail scratch at my bonnet due to cat loves to sleep on my car. can it be remove by waxing??
advised to get it at caltex station just in case.
QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 26 2012, 03:58 PM)
Ya, it's safer to buy from caltex petrol station. Garantee no fake. Don't know havoline got fake or not, better no risk it unless the its a verified reliable source.
Syntium 800 almost same price (RM103), the new sn-rated havoline perform almost the same but produced less engine noise and vibration (maybe). Seems smoother in acceleration. SN rated lube have enhanced wear and sludge protection vs standard sm rated lube. However since good brands lube usually exceed SM rate guideline, it really depends on lube quality.
I using fully synthetic but cost more than 2 bottle of semi. why!!
but it is SM grade lah. going to change soon. cannot wait for the Cusco also.
I think this time can get SN grade de fully edi.
QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:43 PM)
listen to minyak man's advice and you won't go wrong.
i feel my car a bit more sluggish after using Halvoline. FC wise still monitoring. highway fc seems to be on the high side. PJ - Ipoh auto cruise 110km/h use half tank

. duno whether COSE really pour in my Halvoline anot

maybe your car not adapting?
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:53 PM)

Atas said Minyak man is correct, bawah said halvoline is sluggish.
Maybe they pour to the max liao. Check your dipstick.
Added on September 26, 2012, 4:55 pm
Polish / Compound lah, not waxing. Cat's scratching is sup sup water only.
actually i am curious about the max line. there is two curve in on our dipstick rite??
normally you all the engine oil lvl until where??
QUOTE(muslayer @ Sep 26 2012, 05:00 PM)
Sluggish?? got use with Caltex Petrol Ron 95? U won't feel sluggish,

one thing i realised is Caltex will be a bit less powerful during low end.
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 26 2012, 05:09 PM)
Better dun use Halvoline, use Shell will be better.

then our car will cough. hahaha~~
btw, one thing about shell EO, i think is not that rough compare to petronas initially.
but it doesnt last, so no point also.