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jasonloh7906
post Sep 13 2012, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 13 2012, 07:01 PM)
like what xan did drool.gif
anybody wanna bulk for that? haha
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wow, serious?? if yes i want XD
actually a lot of things to bulk. last time so many. but now, no news....

got a very stupid question here.
LCP effect is having the power of = aircond off. able to save petrol also.
so if always drive at night without aircond, the use of LCP totally gone rite??
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post Sep 13 2012, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 13 2012, 08:25 PM)
Haha....you're kidding right? On the air-cond thingy.

LCP sort of bring forward the torque curve thus we can reach higher torque faster than without it. It gives a noticeable boost at low to mid rpm but somehow reduce the torque on the higher end.

All this was works WITH or WITHOUT aircond on...of course with air cond off, more power are diverted back to the engine....so more torque there vs with air-cond on. Technically it does not really increase the torque from nothing, as mentioned, it bring forward the torque in earlier. Saving petrol....I don't notice any difference, just better acceleration at lower end negated by you stepping on accelerator to pecut faster.


Added on September 13, 2012, 8:26 pm

Just copy the latest list (last person who updated it)...and add your name in it. Repost the list with your added name.
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haha, i am not sure so i asked. like you mentioned, at higher end, the torque graph go down mean lesser pulling power when high rev. if better acceleration mean save petrol lor. coz i maintain my right foot mah. tapping only. driving like uncle. but dissapointed bcoz never get fc like other T.T


Added on September 13, 2012, 8:38 pm
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 13 2012, 08:34 PM)
drool.gif So many names! Zeng, ask the dealer to give cheaper lah since can hit 20 people if leave it any longer.
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nice product mah. i wonder xandras interested XD

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post Sep 13 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Sep 13 2012, 08:40 PM)
if cheaper can buy more and more and more  thumbup.gif
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lol, i don't expect it to be that cheap because FS itself is not that cheap.
but of coz, if cheaper then buy more XD
but how many can you buy? if you take 5 can last your 50k km if you service every 10k km. and i think can last 2 years rclxub.gif not bad also.
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post Sep 13 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Sep 13 2012, 08:49 PM)
haha why not..hassle free in future ma.. if not want can sell to other...it will not going to waste  brows.gif
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like oilman said, it shouldnt be kept for so long. so for me two to three bottle is ok coz if i travel sure high mileage.

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Sep 13 2012, 08:52 PM)
the culture kinda vanished...  sad.gif
I wan i wan.. couldn't find in ipoh
hahahaha.. but he just tapao the other maivee...
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hmm, i only saw one seller in auto garage.
but then come to think of it, doesnt seem to be worth it. might as well keep the money to mod other things.

QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 13 2012, 09:02 PM)
It was advisable not to keep lube for too long.

Taken from Bob the Oil Man site...

If lube, even if unopen has some....

• Settling out of the additives as a gel or sticky liquid
•Floc or haze
•Precipitates/solid material
•Colour change or haziness

Can throw away liao. As a guideline keep lube no more than 3 years at most before usage.
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what if the supplier keep stock??
just went to caltex to pump, go have a peek at the engine oil. they put out the API SN grade for semi, but only SM for Fully. Maybe they still keeping the stock of it until the SM grade lube is sold.
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post Sep 13 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Sep 13 2012, 09:49 PM)
how much does it cost anyway?
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i forgot but it is around 80-100 i think the last time i asked for it.
but then, if the bulb burned, you need to change the whole thing which i think is not worth it.

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Sep 13 2012, 10:52 PM)
i can sense d next mega TT is CUSCO TT! rclxms.gif
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this idea not bad. make it in JB XD
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post Sep 13 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Sep 13 2012, 11:31 PM)
shocking.gif wow...... that exp better buy denso iridium lol
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iridium is double the price. haha, edi using.
but maybe the price drop edi. who knows.
save some money do soundproof lor. XD
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post Sep 14 2012, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Sep 13 2012, 11:52 PM)
haha... my car still the stockest of the stockest...  laugh.gif
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how stock is your stock??
not even spark plug??

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post Sep 14 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 14 2012, 10:22 AM)
at COSE for 3rd service now. trying Halvoline semi this time..
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nice choice. review review XD
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post Sep 14 2012, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 14 2012, 04:12 PM)
Haha.. No intention to become distributor.. U need to invest a lot to become one. and just becoming a distributor for 1 type of stuff is very difficult to survive. If want to become distributor also will take a lot of products and become central distributor.

Itu hammie punya.. Not mine.. But most of the performance stuffs i also have.. haha.
Haha.. impossible.. Waiting for custom to tax.. later if custom tax higher then the oil price also will go higher.. if tax rate low then its cheaper..
yes. its stated in the manual.
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oic. i was wondering when are you using FGK extractor.
but still the parts seems to a bit different.
where can get FGK extractor ah??

QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
Stock has been limited to 24 cans at the moment. So once it reaches 24 cans will need to wait for next batch of import.

Bulk List For Cusco Oil Low Friction Formula 5W-40
Please self update
http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/whats_new/cusco_engine_oil.html

PRICE: TBD, tentatively at RM150. But the dealer said due to stock limitation it might rise.
Since there is so many people ordering, i cant possibly foot the 2k bill directly. will PM u all later when stock arrives to bank in to me. 
1) Zeng
2) Zeng
3) ckdenion
4) anep
5) jasonloh7906
6) jasonloh7906
7) junhowe
8) junhowe
9) Fubar20
10) Jackyap84
11) ziggy87
12) onijoseph
13) onijoseph
14) kennywee92
15) saddient
16) monodevil
17) monodevil
Minyakman Cavino said so: Cusco FS low friction formula bulks here has a number of proven and tested users here. The high amt of PAO synthetic based along with excellent feedback with darn low pricing (for this type of FS) is worth it if you want a FS.
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24 is ok lah. now edi 17. saga thread no ppl want join meh??

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Sep 14 2012, 11:47 AM)
yea... very stock.. even EO also only using petronas syntium
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join the bulk lah. you will feel different.
i see no point using petronas syntium when my warranty over. and the price of it is not cheap also. so i just go for caltex.
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post Sep 14 2012, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(sbvc79 @ Sep 14 2012, 08:13 PM)
tongue.gif company pay my petrol drool.gif
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i can brain this.
i work one month + also 10k km. XD

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Sep 14 2012, 08:15 PM)
too far to bulk bro..  laugh.gif
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how far?? can postage de mah.
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post Sep 19 2012, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Sep 18 2012, 10:05 PM)
Original use Mitshuboshi (i think)....I change to Bando Belt. (RM 5x/= i bought from my spare parts shop). U need to ask mechanic to check the tensioner for faulty bearing.

My mechanic say the belt got 2 sizes, Long one same as  the original, but the shorter one would be prefered told by my mechanic. tongue.gif
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what is compulsory to be changed with the belt together??
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post Sep 20 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 20 2012, 11:59 AM)
I think it applies to all Iridium Power range.

Just read up 1 guy uses IT20 12K mileage = 20k kilometer. Spark center conductor habis.....

So I suggest not using our Denso Power IT20 more than 20K kilometer max.
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what i saw is that it is designed to last 100k km under normal driving, but recommended to change at 35k km for optimum performance as it is high performance plug. if can only last 20k km, then i will just stick to campro oem plug and change it every 10k km. i still can accept if change at every 35k km. reasonable for the price too.
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post Sep 20 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 20 2012, 04:11 PM)
After reading more articles from denso overall (they never give exact life span)...I come to conclude in general Denso Iridium Power plug should be able to last maxed 50K mileage. By then probably performance degraded to max.

Most vendor recommended 30k to 40K change. I think I will either go for 30K if got $$$ or 40K if no $$$. Don't think I want it to go 50K...the eroded performance and fc probably did not worth that 10K mileage.


Added on September 20, 2012, 4:12 pm

Actually those denso iridium that can last 100k km is iridium tough not power. Power is performance, tough is long life. OEM usually used something similar to tough.
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if you believe denso, then the interval will be 30k miles which = approx 48k km.
so changing at 35k-40k km like i mentioned is reasonable.
previously i wanna buy tough, but it seems not much people selling. so i just take the power.
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post Sep 20 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 20 2012, 04:14 PM)
Then it is not 20K lah?
Yalo, better dun stretch it past 50K since SP problems will make car stalling, performance down and FC high.
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true true. i wonder when is the time i installed it. my fc still high now.
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post Sep 20 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 20 2012, 04:17 PM)
Denso global STILL give comparison of Power IK20 as 15K to 20K kilometer vs OEM/tough 100K kilometer....so... blink.gif
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what bout IT20??
i am not sure if I am using IT20 or IK20 coz I din join you all in the bulk last time.
but if i am not mistaken i am given IT20. need to check my pm. haha.


Added on September 20, 2012, 4:22 pm
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 20 2012, 04:19 PM)
Manada? That one is basic requirement for spark plugs and did not specify that it is for Denso Power.


Added on September 20, 2012, 4:20 pm
Heavy foot and traffic jams.  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on September 20, 2012, 4:21 pm
Heavy foot and traffic jams.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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if like that i wont be sad lah. i light foot and smooth driving in JB without much jam. I really cannot brain why such FC~~

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post Sep 22 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(junhowe @ Sep 22 2012, 10:38 AM)
Is Castrol Edge Sport 10W-60 FS Gooding..? Clocked 9700km, unable to wait for my Cusco order on November as i'm worried i might clock over 11000km which affect my warranty claims in future.  sad.gif

Any better viral than Castrol edge sport, Cheaper alternative and available to grab in shores now..?

Thanks Sifus  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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definitely not for your car. using 60 weighted oil you will cry. unless your car turbo lah.
if cannot wait, either get castrol magnatec or caltex havoline.

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 20 2012, 04:31 PM)
Then dunno lah. Too heavy, tyres not pumped properly, no Firestorm.  whistling.gif
Here is the pdf for the Denso recommended SP.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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haha, i got everything that i should have (light foot, denso spark plug, properly pump tyres, Firestorm, Fully synthetic EO) haiz, not seeing any improvement in FC. Maybe I need LCP, Extractor, light weight rims, and E-throttle. hope this would help XD

QUOTE(sleyer @ Sep 21 2012, 09:04 AM)
anyone ?  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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haha, go practice your left foot then.

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Sep 21 2012, 10:30 AM)
hahhaa... Im just pure weird now.

when i plan to sell car so many ask for parts. Now confirm sell nobody ask.  doh.gif
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haha, actually very interested in your rims. but no budget. then think of it, i think i will place rims at last priority.




much more 1Malaysia than someone that only say it on the mouth XD
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post Sep 23 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 23 2012, 06:52 PM)
Its due to the door design too.. The front door is longer and the weight of it u can see its nearer to the B pillar.. The rear door is more heavier looking towards the B pillar compared to the C pillar end.. where it has the curve for the rear wheels.
Well nothing is better that real world knowledge. When i went for Denso last time i did my research ady..

I took out my spark plugs and did a regap it at around 40k km. Thats like around 32k km of mileage since i changed my plugs at 8k km mileage.. clean plugs with no sign of soot or lean redness.
Regap the plugs back to stock specs, which is 1.1mm. but u can go closer to like 1mm or 0.9mm.
After regap the plugs will function like perfect brand new plugs.
Y they say performance plug spoilts faster? its due to the electrode being more finer than Tough series which is 0.8mm. Every spark the plugs put out, a miniscule amount of the electrode will be gone together. Thats call wear and tear. So technically, a 0.8mm electrode should tahan 2x times the mileage of 0.4mm if the amount of sparks generated throughout the mileage is EXACTLY the same. However due to different driving conditions such as high rev all the time will cause more wear and tear.

Therefore a performance plug which is tend to be driven at high rev most of the time will show lesser lifespan than standard plugs which were calculated on normal mileage at lower rev and also thicker electrode.

Y spark plugs have problem such as misfiring after a while? its because of gapping voltage. gapping voltage is the voltage required to bridge the electrodes. the thinner the electrode, the lower the gapping voltage. the nearer the electrode to the ground , the lower the gapping voltage. Thats y denso misfires very less. its thinner electrode gives the advantage. Over time the electrode will wear off and the gap will become bigger. So a regap will bring it back to brand new performance level.

So conclusion is. Ur IT20 Iridium Power also can last as long as regular plugs, if u do a proper regap. However if u regap it with an inexperienced person or a person who does not know how to do it, there are too possiblities.
1st the electrode pin bends. Causing irrepairable permanent terminal diec0ck damage to the plug. Continue to use it will cause instant damage to ur engine.
2nd, the gap becomes too near. When the ECU is unable to specify a gapping voltage that is low enough to time it properly due to the much lower gapping distance, ur sparks will jump a bit too soon. causing detonation. then ur engine will become like ckdenion punya.
U mau beli R3 rim only? R3 Rim only for sale also. Offer me. Ori price is RM1920. Lowballers will be sarcastically replied.
Cusco so far the best.. But too bad dont have stock.
Sorry bro.. Need to update u all.. The current batch stock also finish.. 1 Gen2 club came and sapu every single bottle.. so have to wait for the next batch in nov. But since there is so much demand. In the future when there is stock i will straight take as much as possible and then put it for sale here since there is a lot of demand for the oil.
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diecock, need to wait so long mean I need to go service my car first. cannot wait edi. haha. nice info on the spark plug. din know about it. but how do i even know if the person that gap the SP do it correctly or not??
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post Sep 24 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 24 2012, 07:35 PM)
Ur 17" can sell it off mah.. VIP style got a lot of ppl want.. Or u take from me then i can give u installment..  smile.gif
Yeah. The reknown Advanti.. hehe..
Lol.. I guess u misunderstood it.. My original Besi rims are black.. hehehe..
Cos u dont have R3 rims.. Or u want to take ckdenion's VIP style 17" rims? Then can do 3 way trade.. hehe..
Denso tough cost around Rm300. Well it depends on where u go for  the regap. for example shops with good workmanship can do it well enough. Cue : EA Autokerja.
But for me, since right after regap and before regap i can feel quite a noticeable difference, it means that around 32k mileage the plugs did degrade quite a bit too.. Hence the difference when regap. Assuming i didnt regap it, it would have a performance penalty by the time it reaches 60k mileage.
No wonder got sound.. U are using horse shoe instead of brake shoe.. Thats y got the wheeeeheeee sound when u brake..
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the rims is silver punya??
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post Sep 25 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Sep 25 2012, 09:23 AM)
hehe..12month installment..haha


Added on September 25, 2012, 10:14 ammy car cacat sebelah..thats why i've been thinking why my car looks different on driver side, a few weeks after gotten back my car, i realized that the driver side skirt is not for baseline model..zzzz.z.z.
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wah, 12 month installment. if 12 month installment i take the R3 rims immediately XD


Added on September 25, 2012, 12:30 pmafter browsing through again and again at the automotive garage, found the dispute between erictioh VS and Icecube VS. any comment??
haha, sounds crazy, but i actually think of buying the original pivot. but also saw HKS, Works, Qmax. all have it. but not cheap. of coz, pivot also not cheap.

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post Sep 25 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(arayz @ Sep 25 2012, 12:49 PM)
imitation cheap what..
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i heard why people say VS effect is a myth is because the one used is mostly imitation.
i searched and saw this.

http://www.importtuner.com/tech/impp_1010_...on/viewall.html

suprising and dunno why, some VS actually increase torque and HP?? which as usual, the result may be fake.

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