I typed quite a lot and my laptop just shut down on its own. Now using phone to reply.
Thanks for the nice description. Funny but meaningful.
If in shitload, ya I agree with you to get out from it fast.

*keeping this post short.

RM 800 is a per annum allowance and not per month.
Yeah, slightly lower than market price.

After 182 days will be normalized to standard tax bracket, so not to worry.

Not necessarily.
Join a company which emphasizes on work-life balance. Most of the MNCs are into this nowadays, my company as well.
You do know MNCs' salary range is on a higher side compared to local companies right?

By looking at your IP, you are based in SG now.
Anyway, it is no good to generalize like that lo. At least for my case, we do have good balanced of work and life. Of course, there are times where we cannot avoid but not all the time. Working late is not the key point to earn more.

I have no intention to argue. I'm just speaking on behalf of an employer and employee. I can represent both.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Aug 29 2013, 11:34 PM

Normal for banking industry.

Quarterly? You mean 4 times per year, can I join this company?
I doubt so.

Yearly adjustment is normal though.

You do know there are many factors to affect your salary range. Let me just name a few:
1) Your strengths that distinguish between you an others
2) Your current pay
3) Your job
4) Your company
5) Your industry
6) Your experience
7) Your qualification

Those things I mentioned above are not in sequence, so point 7 doesn't mean it is not important.
Plus, you are still young, career advancement is what you should prioritize and not salary though it is important. If not, when you are in 30s, you will suffer and lose out in competition.

I'm 27 this year and I have gone through what you are going through now, I'm still sticking to my current company that I joined since internship as it gives me very wide exposure and I think I'm earning quite good for my age (the amount you "dreamt of"). You (and others) may not agree with me, but I don't believe in frequent job hopping in early working years.

Well, that's just my point of view.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 3 2013, 06:20 PM

We shall see when your time comes but with the current inflation, nothing is impossible.
What is worth 6k today is not what it is in 1 year time.
That time you will ask for more. What is the limit? Sky is the limit.

Yeah don't get me wrong, I was not saying I'm earning a lot. That's not my point la, to me career advancement is more important. You need to understand, I have not jumped a single company before and every year I get 20-25% increment, which is something I appreciate a lot. Though that was last time, now hardly get that much anymore.

FYI, I'm a HR person and HR doesn't earn as much as engineers, sales persons (for e.g.). If comparison is really necessary, it has to be apple to apple, orange to orange.
If you have friends from HR field and if they are still in junior roles, you will know how pathetic the salary is.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 3 2013, 11:04 PM

HR salary only climbs after 3-4th year onwards. Can easily go more than 10k as it progresses.

You are still very new to working world, so it is normal for you to feel clueless now.
Just work hard and find your passion. Passion makes things easier.

I love my current job, it gives me so much of exposure.
This year I'm given with few overseas assignments opportunities and I must admit I learn a lot.
Next week I'll be flying to Myanmar for recruitment, after that to Beijing for training and probably to Sydney for on-ground operations support.

So, just enjoy and learn from your current job! All the best.

Anyway, Mgmt Trainee is a good program as you get to learn a lot.
Although I must say this, 3k for a Mgmt Trainee in banking line is very little.
My friend was a mgmt trainee for one of the overseas banks in Malaysia and she was getting more than RM 4k as the start, that was 2 years ago.
Besides during her mgmt training, she was sent to UK and HK for trainings, stayed there for nearly a month every time.
But again, be contented with what you have.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 4 2013, 12:17 AM

More than 4k actually. Of course I can't share which bank is that. I have two friends who were their management trainee, both doing very well now.

I don't usually do recruitment because company doesn't have active recruitment, we don't go out to source for people most of the time, just headhunter or internal transfer. But this time, a bit unique, so we were asked to fly into Yangon to support a mass recruitment.
I'm more on operations side, but my boss proposed me to give a lending hand to the HR business partner group.

You just joined less than a month, yet start to think of so many things.
Still fresh to the company, be a sponge and absorb as much as you can.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 4 2013, 12:27 AM

Even for their normal employees.
So, go into O&G.

I'm looking for one now.
Got bored with telco.

Well, he can study part time while he is working.

Sorry, just noticed your gender tag. You are a "she".

Whatever you expected doesn't mean the company needs to fulfill, so it is not cheating.
But it is still up to you to accept or not, they can't force you.

Most of the time gross salary, how to give you an accurate net salary off hand?

I see people's salary all the time as well. Used to be part of my job, buy these days I'm more to supervision role.
Well, of course what you said is true, and you will need to calculate your annualized tax as well, put in the YTD tax deduction and EPF contribution to ensure accurate tax deduction.
Just saying.
In nutshell, what I was trying to say, they always give gross salary figure.

I can always give an estimation amount but most of the time I don't do it unless the employees want from me.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 21 2013, 12:46 AM

Just sharing only, this is what the forum meant to be.

Sorry, I'm in telco field. Not familiar with yours.

Above your expected salary because we put an expected salary in JobStreet and it varies.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 28 2013, 11:20 PM

OnG also needs SAP ma.
My company is also using SAP and now I'm specialized in SAP for HR module.