Been there.
Nearly posted there to work as well.
So what do you think?

I'm not sure about those smaller provinces but Hanoi is not that poor la. It is quite bustling actually.
Makan also not really that cheap.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 11 2013, 08:08 PM

I also got mine this month and it is only 4%. 7% is considered good for yearly adjustment.
But anyway, due to my performance, my manager is trying to get an off-cycle for me... Hopefully will be approved.
Else, next year is a confirmed promotion case for me. Either way, I'm happy.

24 years old is still very young and can take up contract position.
Usually contract positions will have higher salary compared to permanent.

I was a contract staff for 2 years and converted to permanent last year.
That was right after my internship (same company). But if you are married, then that's another story as job security is important.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 17 2013, 10:48 PM

8 days is as per Labour Law, so what do you think?
Commonly is 14 days.

Mine is 20 days but after carried forward 10 days from last year and some other in-lieu PH, I have 33 days to use this year.
Unfortunately, I only used 3 days so far.

But again 2 years from 1.2k to 1.27k? That's a joke.
Degree having 1.2k salary? Not worth at all. Even becoming a clerk is more than that.

We are talking about Aviation industry. It is totally different.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 18 2013, 04:18 PM

No worries, I understand this. I'm a HR person myself, I'm just trying to prove that it is possible to get such a huge leap.
It is different for each industry, so different requirements, different pay.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 18 2013, 05:16 PM

My room only costs RM 265 (inclusive of utilities) in Seapark, PJ and near to LRT station. Not too big but sufficient for me as I'm just staying alone. Been staying here since my internship days which were 4 years ago.

Though I'm earning more than you, I'm still saving to get my first house. It is difficult when every single piece of property in Klang Valley is expensive. Well, you just have to start difficult and let's not start thinking of buying your own property yet. Unless, your parents are willing to support you on the down payment. Then by all means go ahead.

Come to Klang Valley and see how much you will need to own a property.
I have to save myself as I don't want to burden my parents to pay anything for me.
Recently, just bought a car myself.

I want to go to O&G also.

Telco is paying me well but O&G is much better.

I work in a MNC and they pay me RM la.
Unless you are on expat package, that's different.

Well, to me, I'm happy with the salary then to me that's considered well.
27 - Junior HR Specialist moving to Senior ranking soon.
Earning slightly more than RM 5k.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 29 2013, 06:45 PM

Top 5% in which sense?
Yeah, been absorbing a lot of things over the years to equip myself for another leap. Maybe in another company in the future.

Well, still cannot be compared to those from O&G.

Er, probably for junior HR positions.
My other HR bosses and seniors are easily earning more than 10k... Some even more than 20k...
I'm pretty happy with mine. Of course the more the better.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 29 2013, 08:01 PM

Though as a fresh grad you can't demand but with the increasing living costs, you can try to negotiate.
When I started working in 2010, that time I was 24 years old and I got 2.8k from my current employer. They gave me outright and I didn't demand for it. I was happy that time.
But again, before they offered me, I already had a benchmark salary amount in my head, anything lower than that, I will negotiate with them. Most of the employers will understand.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Jul 31 2013, 10:59 AM

:lol Alex. Slow slow wait lo.
Still long long way to go for me.
But I'm enjoying the process.

I didn't even share the exact salary details, how did you come up with that conclusion?
It was just your guess.
To add on, all I can say my bigger leap happened when I was a contract staff because I lost out quite a lot compared to permanent employees. Then, I was converted to be a permanent employee last year and oh yea I just had my annual adjustment last month, 4%?
I just received a recognition award 2 days ago, besides some money, I'm truly glad that my performance is acknowledged by others and the HR's leadership team. Add another ribbon to my career.


By the way, there is an opening in my company for the same role I'm holding now but will be based in Sydney, Australia. I think I'm going to apply for it, wish me luck.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Aug 2 2013, 12:59 AM

What is the reason look out again?
Assuming your previous experience is only 4 months and only stay with current company for 1 month.

If I were to see this kind of CV, I'll....

Actually from the beginning is also not encouraged. You haven't learnt much and yet you start jumping to another company.

Imagine if you are the employer, will you take the risk to hire a job hopper? After your investment in this person, you know he/she will leave you very soon? What's the point?

I mean if stay for 3 years like that still acceptable unless due to any special reasons, then of course no point continue staying there and you may look out again.

I have faced similar situation when I interviewed candidates for R&D positions and HR junior positions. I regard myself as a junior Exec as well but I'm amazed by how these people keep jumping around over the years. Only when I further drilled in, I will know how much substance they have. Again, I'm emphasizing that this is based on my own experience and have no intention in offending any party.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Aug 13 2013, 02:52 PM

I guess, you might overlook on this part: "I mean if stay for 3 years like that still acceptable unless due to any special reasons, then of course no point continue staying there and you may look out again."


By the way, I'm also a normal employee just like you guys.
Though in the company, I'm representing the employer.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Aug 13 2013, 08:41 PM