I know there may be some of you may know or disagree about this, but hey i am just trying to share and let other people who didn't know to try out !



Well, u can always switch to tank demon hunter which i think is ridiculously OVERPOWERED ! i know what will people say, "If you wanna play tank, play barb or monk better". i will explain why a demon hunter can be as tank-ish as barb later on. The following are the reasons why you (fellow demon hunter friends!! ) should give Tanker Demon Hunter Build a try :

- you will not die easily and at the same time, saving repair bills
- you can invest more in the equipment but to get the basic tank equipment, 1m to 1.5m is enough !
- I spent less than 1.5m and i can beat inferno mode (excluding Siegebreaker because i don't have enough DPS to kill him before enrage so i have to party with a dps friend to inflict damage while i tank in front)
- I can kill ghom without dropping a single hp (unless sometimes i am too lazy to move my fingers) and kill butcher AFK overnight (my follower do all the damage while i stand there)

MY CURRENT BUILD

3.8k armour
700 AR
60khp (not full set yet)
1.3k LoH
8k DPS - no SS
39.5% crit-chance
LIFE REGEN - 3k per second

MY SKILL
CLICK HERE TO SEE TANK DEMON HUNTER SKILL


YES LIFE REGEN IS THE KEY TO THIS THING. many people may think that life regen sucks and useless but i am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Think about stacking LoH and Life regen at the same time. from my build, i am gaining 3k hp per sec + 1.3k hp per hit (I am using grenade which makes it massive aoe damage).. For one second, i gained about 6.9k hp (assuming my grenade hits 3 creeps)

Back to the first question of the post, why demon hunter can tank as good as barb/monk class? because demon hunter has skills to REDUCE MASSIVE INCOMING DAMAGE.

- caltrops with numbing traps (REDUCING 25% DAMAGE)
- sentry with guardian turret (REDUCING 15% DAMAGE)
- shadow power with gloom (REDUCING 65% DAMAGE)

-TOTAL REDUCE BY 105% INCOMING DAMAGE

NOT ENOUGH DISCIPLINE TO SPAM ALL THE SKILL?
- increase your max discipline (minimum 40 recommended 50) (currently 45 for me but will be upgrading to 50)
- get critical chance a minimum of 40% and use Night Stalker Passive Skill (gain one disc per critical hit inflicted)
- NOW U CAN HAVE UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF DISC TO USE FOR SHADOW POWER, CALTROPS, AND SENTRY

LOW DPS?
- YES this is a tank build so we are going to throw DPS out of window but u can still do massive damage and even kill elites.
- u will be using CALTROPS (normally i will stack 5 caltrops on the ground)
- and empty your hatred with either spike traps or chakaram with shuriken cloud


In all, i am not saying this is a perfect build but i am still looking to make it even better.. Just saying - this build can tank as good as barb/monk with less than 1.5m worth of equipment, so it is worth trying to be honest. I just wanna share my opinion to all of you fellow friends.

BTW anyone that wants to see this build in action before investing 1.5m gold, feel free to add me in the game. Alrighty, peace out !!

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM

about the same stats + skills + concept
main diff is that i have higher dps + crit so that i can solo . no regen lol (maybe a couple of hundreds?).

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jul 25 2012, 05:51 PM

I played at public game last night.
And met 2 tankers, a Demon Hunter and a Wizard.

I rate Wizard a better tanker because he can froze the monsters.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM

yeah i met one tank wizard in the public game too.. good tanker but still i am a better tank.. we were in act 3 on quest to kill ghom (4 players - tank wiz, tank monk, glass cannon demon hunter and me).. in the end, i am the one left standing - solo-ing ghom while others stays in the corner to avoid ghom's fart gas..

freezing is not really tanking ... it is more creep controlling ...

nice regen there bro. but dps abit low

haha tanker rocks... maybe if u throw in some life regen, u will be golden.. LOL.. how much dps 1 handed crossbow are u using??

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Added on July 25, 2012, 5:56 pmyeah it is due to my weapon actually.. hopefully i can get a decent one to increase it.. however i mainly use traps to inflict damage !!

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 25 2012, 05:56 PM

too dam expensive man ... high dex vit ar regen armor gear ... sometimes u cant even find it
~900 with + dex + 70% crit

lol no wonder u have high dps... critical damage on your weapon.. for me, i am looking for +10 max disc , LoH minimum 700 and 150+ vit... don't really care about the dps..

Since we're at it, here's my friend's Tank Hunter build for those who are interested.

Stats and items below:

Shield:
http://i.imgur.com/SD5bN.jpg

Dual-Wield:
http://i.imgur.com/9PeH9.jpg

Skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;VXe!ccbYcb

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Jul 25 2012, 06:08 PM

Me oso a bit tank build DH,
30k hp
4.7k armor
680 AR
Discipline 44,
Critical damage 158%
Critical chance 51.5%
Dps without ss 30k

No problem in act 2 but act 3 a bit hard..

DH needs more nerf since they can kill Inferno Diablo totally naked.

u try naked? Vid pls.. pls dun tell me it killed naked by Athene..

Damm it leave the tanking to us barbs..
its all we can do... why why why......

im leaving it to u.. glass cannon is more fun for me.. full dps 1 hit kill is way to go.. if wanna tank i'll play monk or barb

moogleee! please do livestream of your TANK DH!

/inb4 lulz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXby5EWUCY4

Tank Loh Built

nice build bro

Its not additive.
I think the maths works like this:

1-((1-0.25)*(1-0.15)*(1-0.65)) = 1-(0.75*0.85*0.35) = 0.78 or 78% dmg reduction

For loh/hp regen, both are reliable.
Hp regen ticks every 0.5 sec(half of the displayed value), and loh depends on your attack speed.

But since dh has imba skill loh multiplier+crazy ticks per second, loh are more valuable.

For pvp oriented players, balanced approach is more optimal, since I dont think caltrops/grenades/turret will be as reliable in arena.
Also, I think vit(hp) plays an important role too.Its useless to have high armor/res if your hp are like 20k only.For this I think a helm with amethyst socketed in is a must for any tank/balanced dh.( which I dont have yet )

p/s:crazy regen+hp man

This post has been edited by nightshade_nova: Jul 25 2012, 10:20 PM

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Added on July 25, 2012, 10:59 pmThis post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 25 2012, 10:59 PM

Athene has done it therefore anyone with enough perseverence could do it too. Try melee classes, they can't even smell diablo's fart without good gear.

can! naked done before. i pop serenity and smell his fart before dying.

=edit=
ps: i got naked diablo kill and punch diablo achievements

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 26 2012, 01:21 AM

Can u do it? Do u know how imba athene bow and quiver? Lol.. dont simply say it can be done so easily coz someone with best item in game can do it.. 99% dh cant..

I'm not sure whether it is the same skill or a different skill.
The Wiz was surrounded by 4 elites and these elites could hardly hurt the Wiz.
All 3 players already killed uncountable times but the Wiz still stood there like a boss (on a pool of poison + arcane) with more than 50% HP.

For me, the best tanker is the one that survives longer than others + without kiting.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2012, 09:21 AM

bow + quiver >>> your full gear? Then your gear sucks mega ass, because:

http://athenelive.com/trophyroom/

1303dps weap
+272 dex
+197% crit hit dmg
+8.5% crit hit chance
+15% atk speed
+1 hatred/s
+10 max discipline

That is ALL the stats he gets from his weapon+quiver. ZERO extra vitality, 450 or whatever total Dexterity.

In any case the fact is that one DH has beaten Diablo naked. Can any other class even come close to doing this?

ghom is the lord of fart lulz

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Added on July 26, 2012, 8:25 amwiz and wd can, as long as range

This post has been edited by olman: Jul 26 2012, 08:25 AM

Normal to Hell mode, yes, Barb could be pretty good tanker.
When it comes to Inferno, Barb is no tanker (unless you have god-like gears).
Barb is VERY gear dependent.
This is why you see those powerful Barbs in Inferno opt for DPS and kill-the-monster-fast.
Simply because Barb can't tank in Inferno.
Barb has no healing skills. Barb can't do range attack. Barb has to go melee but on a pool of fire+poison+arcane+invulnerable+shield fast elites?
Barb can only kill the enemy fast, as fast as he can to survive.
God-like DPS, meaning you need to spend HUGE amount on weapon and gears.

Monk is better tanker than Barb most of the time (despite lower armor + resistance). Thanks to the healing skills.
It is way way lower cost to maintain Monk too.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2012, 09:40 AM

show me.

yes this is what i thought so.. barb requires really good EQ to progress in inferno.. i am not sure about the lower cost to maintain monk though because as far as i know, dex equipment are the most expensive basic stat in the game..

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Added on July 26, 2012, 9:43 amactually i am kinda agree with wizards having the ability to kill diablo naked.. if u fight diablo long enough, u will know the movement of it.. like what skill is he going to use next.. with that in mind, it is kinda easy to predict and avoid these attacks with diamond skin, just like what demon hunter did with ss..

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 26 2012, 09:43 AM

DEX equipment are way cheaper than Barb's STR gears.
Besides, DEX equipment can be used on both Monk and Demon Hunter.
Barb's STR is useless for other class of heroes.

thanks.. it is quite a nice build though with the total cost less than 1.5m only !!

Two hugely different skills.

Diamond skin with crystal shell absorbs 20k-ish damage. It's awesome when you have pretty high DR (armor/resist), not so awesome when you're naked and have 20% DR from Blur. Smoke screen avoids damage entirely.

like i posted on the other monk thread. its the other way around.

price is determined by DEMAND.

str gears are only demanded by 1 class - barb
dex gears are demanded by TWO classes - DH/monk

its easy to know who gets the more expensive gear just by this.

yeap.. simple marketing system.. more demand more expensive.. the same goes to int but D3 is overloaded with more dex players compared to int players, thus making dex the most expensive stat in the game..

wrong wrong wrong lol.

your only right is yes, barb is VERY gear dependent. without decent gear, barbs are arguably the worst class
however once they gear up, they can be EASILY the best.

refer the lyn top stats. look at how much dmg reduction/armor a barb can go compared to the other classes.
then look at their dps. lol trumping SS demon hunters.

again wrong, barb has skills that life leeches/regens based on scalable %
monks are purely STATIC value heals.

and range? monk's only range is the runed up deadly reach. barbarian can friggin weapon throw skill with rune to further enhance it (refer to "chicken" inferno ranged barbarian youtube video)

monk is a way better tanker than barb only assuming that both of them are at lesser gear (eg: full set i level 61)
however once both of them gear up (eg: full set ilevel 63), barb EASILY outpace the monk in tanking.

mainly because your healing skills scale, and if your gears are bad, you dont get much out of it. monk ones are static, so they are good when they arent decked out uber gear, but once they are, they dont benefit any of it aside from e.hp scaling (which barbs benefit from that too mind you)

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Added on July 26, 2012, 10:17 amyes and no though. wiz are fairly overpopulated. the only difference is WD are so rare, while monk isnt, that makes dex more demanded. that, and emerald gems also fuel for every classes weapons for their crit dmg

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 26 2012, 10:17 AM

Those 30K armor is buffed. It's about 10K of armor.

My Barb has 11K of armor (33K after leap). 1500AR after WC + Mantra.
My Barb still like toufu.

My Monk has 6K+ armor and 900AR.
My Monk can swim in A3/A4.

It doesn't work that way.

fair enough the thread is about buffed (bluff lol) stats. however know this: we want to bluff also we cannot acquire such stats.

kripparrian has WAY LESSER stats (lol budget barb), yet he can do act 3/4 fairly well. albeit a lot of difficulties.
granted, he is kripparrian, not everyone is.

my point being, if you're having better stats on your barb than your monk and you cant do as well, its probably:
1) you're not playing your barb properly
2) you're able to play your monk better than your barb (i find the LYN monk thread very resourceful compared to the other 4 classes )
3) both barb/monk are only decently geared, and as i said, monk does better than barb if they arent in awesome gear. however as i have also said, as they gear out better, barb will easily leave the monk class in the dust

Let's leave kripparrian for a moment.
I speak as average gamer.

Why you need such stats? It is not effective in battleground.
With such stats, Barb is still like toufu, what is the point of it?
It is very common to have 10K armor and 1200AR (after War Cry) for a Barb but these are no good at all.
How many Barbs go for tanker? Those Barbs who can farm comfortably in A3/A4 are those with god-like DPS + LOH.
They don't go for armor and AR.

I have an average Monk with 20K DPS (My Barb has 20K DPS too).
My Monk has lower AR and Armor. My Monk is doing a lot better than my Barb.

Ask those Barbs with 20K DPS / 1000 Armor / 1200 AR / 46K HP how they do in A3/A4.
It is pain-in-the-ass. Barb has to chase the teleporter like those desert hornets in A2. Monk can teleport.
Half HP gone before Barb can make a single hit.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2012, 10:49 AM

- it is up to one's decision to gear up as a pure tank, pure dps, or in the middle. chances are you want to do both, and as such, you require better stats, and thus being more expensive. (it is the same for monk, as with EVERY CLASS save DH because lol smoke screen)
- monk is equally as toufu as barb with similar stats. the biggest differentiation is that we have serenity
- it is common for monk to have 10k armor (albeit require keen eye buff for over 10k armor) and 1k all resist too, but again, when elites in act 3-4 can hit me for 5 digits regardless of the stats i have, i am as toufu as a barb is. however i still finished inferno diablo. again, you probably play better on your monk than your barb. though at the same time, it seems that you're carried on your monk, not sure bout your barb, but that *COULD* be a factor; assumptions from my end though.

i've known a few barbs that go for armor/ar being a full tank. they have separate gears to swap if they wanna dps. SAME case for my monk

god like dps is very subjective. if they dont have decent armor/AR to begin with, they just get 1 shotted before their DPS/LoH can even kick in. again, works the same for monks.

"monk can teleport" go ask the monk thread who has that in their hotkey LOL!
while barbs on the other hand, chances are they have dash thingy with marathon rune (kripparrian does! so it cant be bad, huh?)

If you read, my monk is doing better with a poorer stats.

Monk can teleport. Fist of thunder - Thunderclap.
I use it and do immediate melee attack.
While my Barb still has to chase the teleporter.

and my points above still stands

FoT is only good if you got good enough survival stats and/or offensive stats/dps.
being lesser, deadly reach will always be better in terms of buffing 50% armor or 18% dps.

and hell, deadly is aoe, have a bit of range, FoT is single target (for the most part) until the 3rd hit that has a small AoE

Barbs has a LOT of skills for close ins and most of them are very very practical without much drawbacks. (leap lets you go 33k armor, no?)

33K armor is still toufu when it comes to elites fight. Likewise 1500AR.
As I told you, it doesn't work that way.

To prove that your points stand, I think you need to play Barb.
Have you played Barb before? If not, try it and share with us how it goes.

i havent played a barb myself, however i have many friends who do and i team/coop up with a barb very very frequently.
and form my experience on those barbarians, they can tank better when i do and in fact, they LOVE IT when they get mobbed because of how OP revenge is. in fact some of my barb friends tell me NOT to blind unless things get out of hand because he love to spam revenge/healing from revenge. dps wise? lets just say frenzy/WoTB > anything a monk has. and my biggest dps boost (MoC) benefits him as it isnt that exclusive/special to myself anymore. granted, i benefited greatly from his warcry

again, if you're dying like toufu having 10k armor 1k AR compared to your monk, the only thing happening is you're not playing your barb as well as your monk. how else other barbs (lol my sister is reaching inferno soon on her alt barb w) are doing DECENTLY fine/finishing inferno act 4 in the very first place? initially i bring in kripparrian because he is CLEARLY doing something right for barbs when he is clearing inferno act 4 with MUCH LESSER STATS. should i say monk class is horrible because i only clear inferno post 1.0.3 with almost DOUBLE of what kripparrian has on his budget barb?

if you invalidate my points because i dont play a barb, that would be very sad as diablo3 isn't a very difficult game to be very honest and imho you don't really need to play that class to get an idea on how things work. (eg: 10k armor does x dmg reduction, ignore pain does x % dmg reduction and so forth)

I speak from my experience. I am no pro like kripparrian.
Perhaps you can share with us how you sis does in A3/A4 later. Show us the gears she has too.

By the way, do you have the video clip on kripparrian clearing A4 with lesser stats?
The last one I saw is the one with whirlwind.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2012, 11:30 AM

look up his budget barb videos

hmm, i tot is topic Tank DH...

I have never played a monk, but i did spend alot time with my barb before rerolling to my wiz.

I generally think monk has better utility as in teleporting and constant interrupt on mobs not to mention serenity. While barb is a more in your face kinda tank which requires alot more gear to take hits. In the end i've ditched sword & board and went 2handed to clear act3.

Bottom line will need to look at the amount of ehp require to clear both a3 and a4 with both classes.

- no monk can spare hotkeys for dash teleport, and if you choose FoT + thunderclap rune you wont have deadly reach + keen eye for armor boost (which is VERY much needed for lesser geared monks)
- barbs does better interrupts via stun. monk generally ONLY has blind which is on hefty cooldown and has shit effect for elites/bosses
on that same page, wizards does the best with their "stun lock" frost nova abuse

arguably, due to serenity, barbs do require slightly higher e.hp to be equally effective. however again, due to the scalability of barbs, they WILL become much better tank than monks in the longer run (that is how gear dependent classes work in almost every game, start out bad, end up god mode with god like gears)

Until u have killed diablo with naked dh on ur own then i'll agree with u.. otherwise i'll assume ur comment is full of shit.

Typical response of people who have no substance to their arguments.

Fact: DH can kill diablo while naked (as proven by Athene)
Fact: He did it with 400 total dex and 4000+ hp (or whatever a naked lvl 60 base character has).
Fact: No other class has done even a "blue itamz only" diablo kill.

What proper arguments do you have other than "you kill nekkid first then only talk?"

@Aleune: id suggest you spending more time on monks before you comment about skill set, not EVERY monk set thunderclap for hotkey, they actually do lack hotkeys to skill the skills they "want". this is based on my experience and observation

generally imho both classes has its pro and cons, in terms of general mobility, barb do have that advantage, leap to be specific

AR and armor ration has a specific balance, as a barb you should know that, stacking up maximum AR and armor doesnt mean that you will do better tanking than another that is having lesser.

why most barb goes for dps on later acts are very obvious, tanker barbs arent as efficient as dps when you are soloing for obvious reasons, the enrage timer. makes not sense if you are gonna tank a shitload of mobs/elites/champ but cant kill it when you are alone before the enrage timer hits.

Of course, others can choose the skill they prefer.
I just pointed out monk can teleport and healing skills that give better survival in A3/A4.

As for Barb, as you observed, we hardly see a tanker.
Or we only have tanker with low DPS.
Yes, high DPS is the direction for Barb. As I said, that comes with a cost.

For normal players (who have no budget to spend on godly gears), I think they will have more problem with Barb than Monk.

ive seen a ton. all my barb friend started their barb as tanks. I to started out purely tanking, until recently converting/acquiring more of my gear for dps.

when most, if not all my friends has beaten the game, we hardly do massive 4player coop runs. its theoretically more efficient to farm solo with no 115% hp bonus/player.

when i was a tank, i had way less than 20k dps (about 5-7k buffed going full tanking gear coop with friends, they do the dmg, i just make sure they dont die). when i finished diablo inferno as a tank, i had maybe 20-21k BUFFED DPS.

yes, dps comes with a cost, but what makes barb so special compared to monk? (or DH, for this thread's sake)
you either pick tanking, or DPS. if you want both, prepare to fork out money. (gold or usd alike, depending on your preference of AH)

monk heal comes with cost

revenge/charge dreadnought no cost, lower cooldown

im not even gonna touch the passives


thunderclap single targeted, unable to bypass waller

leap/charge, bypass wall & breaks jailing


ignore pain against serenity


etc etc etc etc

as i have said previously, you cant gauge a particular build based on AH pricing, its just dumb to do so when its controlled by player themselves

barbs role again is segregated to 2, tanker or dps, hybrid is just dumb in inferno, alot of barbs would agree with me

you either go full tanker in coop, or go dps in solo

if you still insist on hybrid, get ready to feel the enrage timer punishments

each class has its pro and cons

one can argue that dps gears is expensive, i dont think tanker gears are cheap either, heck all barb gears are expensive due to idiots pricing barb gears, that doesnt mean monk gears are cheap either, overall the AH econ is fvcked up, if you get ANYTHING good that is cheap, just thank the luck god

id beg to differ, the elite among elite are ALL hybrids, barb or monk alike. clearly though we arent those "elite players" and so is ALeUNe, and i guess that is where he paid for trying to be one when he gear his barb (assuming so, as he seems to want EVERYTHING from his monk too lol)

It is low to dish like that.

im not an elite player too very obviously. so if im dishing myself, i guess that's fair play right?

ya... i saw alot... but max also 15k dps.

yea i had 5-7k. didnt even have WoTB to put myself 10-14 even if it only last for mere seconds and have a few min cooldown to it. i didnt even had that "choice" unless i roll barb

i think this apply to all classes. my tanking DH only has 30k dps ... unlike those glass cannon 100k+

I have 2 friends in my list who are DH Tankers. And man they can tank better than us Monks due to the grenade LOH 3-ways!

Monks depend solely on LOH and low DPS to tank, however regen is another question.

But yes, agreeable that the DH Tank build is workable! One can tank their way all the way to Act 4 and even pawn Diablo himself! However with low DPS, one has to be extra patient....

For me, barb can pull all mob/elite closed to him, that the only thing i like.

Other range i will list them as off tank.

DH is great tank but jus too expensive to maintain.

Ppl always says that melee takes 30% less dmg, but forget that ranged class does 30% more dmg.

Those of you who doubt about my build, this is my master's video.. there is one video that he exposed his tank wizard and maybe u guys can learn from there.. i don't have a wizard so i can't try..

are you serious? wheres the f***ing DH?

dafuq is dat DH regen so high~ lol!

Doesn't tank build dh already appeared long time ago? US battlenet forum has already v4 thread, same build, the difference is just the gear but actually not much difference, AR/vit/loh/life reg

not new, just not popular here
can basically just stand at the same spot vs belial. just bring the bomb

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jul 27 2012, 09:40 AM

yes it has been a long time but there are still tons of people in this forum don't believe in this build.. said 'AFK kill butcher LMFAO'.. lol i am just trying to prove here..

yea this is what i curious about, lol

btw i find that more and more ppl are going to tank build instead of glass cannon

thanks for the sharing..i will copy your build

all my other heroes are tanker except DH...now i know what to do

THIS MAY BE THE GUIDE FOR YOU..

thanks bro, will save it for reference

hopefully those gear price not increase so much when my DH reach level 60

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Added on July 27, 2012, 1:01 pmi am so love it LOL

3000dps...hahaha

This post has been edited by Ahlok: Jul 27 2012, 01:01 PM

those hp regen stuff u can get it pretty cheap.. it has no value to the market.. haha.. ol i got 3k dps because i spent less gold in weapon.. i am using 300+ dps weapon 1 handed crossbow (who would use that for god's sake? ).. but i just wanna try the build so i budget myself to a certain limit.. right now i will glady upgrade my gear to make it at least 10k dps..

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 27 2012, 01:05 PM

nice

The price is still ok. I got a 750 DPS 1 handed with 950 LoH for 600k buyout. Lol...I guess after this the prices might just go nuts..but I must say I freaking funni to play this way...Just stand there..face off ...and pew pew pew... I am using granades and Chakram ...dual weilding cause I got another xbow with 600 LoH. Total LoH about 2k and regen about 900.. why I use chakram is that I get 4 charam and ny chest armour less 3 hatred for chakram I just spam charam and cluster bomb all the way...

Hilariuos and skilless ..but damn fun ...

Barb: ok pack your bags boys, we goin back to the north pole

Monk:

o.O.. u using dual wielding? i never tired before.. btw the crossbow i am looking for is not cheap in the market.. i want LoH at least 800, +minimum 7 disc and +minimum 160 vit.. LOL.. i need to get my hp at least 70k..

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Added on July 27, 2012, 1:59 pmhaha not really man.. if investing more gold, barb and monk can beat demon hunter anytime... it is just the gear for tank build demon hunter too damn cheap... maybe barb + regen hp = god??? no one really try that before...

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 27 2012, 01:59 PM

nah ... i have a tank monk friend , only 15k dps but almost max regen + LoH + 900AR , 4k armor ... tank like a boss ... can plays with only 1 hand in act3/4 unless crazy elites

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jul 27 2012, 02:18 PM

so the KEY word... REGEN...

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 27 2012, 02:22 PM

if my current semi tank/dps eq need to + regen stats ... i cannot afford lol

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jul 27 2012, 02:30 PM

Ya bro..dual weild xbow..cause the Loh can stack..>loh 800 is quite common..but 7 disc??? I run with base 30 Disc..cause I use prep..of course would love +10 Disc cloak with regen 500++. I think the key to this build is AR> Vit>LoH> Regen>Amour

Need to survive the 1-2 hits and then claim back life. I trying to toy with the idea of Life after Kill/ Life steal (eventhough 70% reduction is crap) but...grenades deals huge damage lor..

I really think Blizzy is going to nerf LoH soon... I think its just too easy to build a LoH tanker naw....

haha i am using cloak +10 disc and regen 300+.. then i just bought 2 crossbow - 690+ dps, +7disc, +160vit, 800+ LoH another 350+dps +8disc +230vit +900+LoH... if i dual wielding, i will have disc 55 >.<.. but i don't think i will do that because i need critical hit chance from the shield which is 8.5.. i am using prep also but i need more disc to spam shadow power - gloom if tanking too many creep.. u got stack critical hit chance for night stalker??

Yeah it will be a bad idea if you dual yiled as your weapon not synergised..690dps + 350Dps..is too far apart. I was lucky cause I found a 750 Dps handxbow with 150 dex and 50 vit + 600 LoH. So when I saw a 750 xbow with 150 Vit + 950 LoH sapu cepat cepat for 600k. So..overall my DPS still same..average 750. . I have a nice amulet with 150Vit, 9% Life and 270 LoH, 31 MF and rings with dex vit and 100+ LoH. With the modifiers my DPS now is at 15k DPS. HP 50k, AR 550..just want to increase the life regen abit since just tinkered with the AR, so its now at 300/sec. I think about 700 should be good enough.

Not stacking crit chance..I think its about 18% Crit damage =50% nia..hahaha, hence not using night stalker. Passive I am using ..grenadier as I use cluster bombs, and the usual steady aim/archery. . Most of the time I think 30 disc is sufficient, unless the Oh..shite..SS. Might try Gloom..but with close to 2k LoH...dont think need the extra life back. The damage mitigation of gloom is nice...but I am thinking maybe use sentry..with shiled/heal + extra damage .

All in all its an experimental build ..for the kicks. Kinda tired of kiting...running away from elites. Ahaha.

well man we can experiment together some other times bro.. maybe we can build the most tankiest out there.. haha.. add me my battle tag is at the bottom... hey man u don't have to use steady aim.. add damage in range but not face to face..

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 27 2012, 04:50 PM

Ahaha...I know but I'm using twin Chakrams..cause my chest amour has less 3 hatred for chakram which is damn worthwhile. Since with deduction chakram cost 7 hatred and hatred regen at 5 per sec...i can get of a lot of chakrams out at 1 go...spammmmmmm...plus chakrams hit multipile time so added benefit of the LoH. So steady aim for the extra damage for range. yeah..will look for u when online

Now wearing full set Nataya to be a super tanker. Try will solo diablo inferno to9 again. Yesterday just beat the 1st diablo and 2nd diablo shadow but die in last diablo. 30 dis can't finish because regen 3 per second.

Wuuu, full natalya, how much you bought for it? Isn't the regen 2 per sec?

>.<

Anyway guys, talking about tank DH, how will you think this build will fare in HC? Chances of survival better than normal ranged DH?