Can i do my diploma in ipts and then transfer to ipta to do degree?

yes. but the amount of credit transfer you can do depends on each ipta.

Can but you only have slim chances since IPTA degree mostly take F6 & Matrix students...

Yeap. But dont count on being able to transfer credit too much

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Added on July 24, 2012, 5:59 amPlease do not mislead people if you dont have proper information on the issue

This post has been edited by Syd G: Jul 24 2012, 05:59 AM

of course you can. you have the same chance as any F6/matriculation student. dont worry, go on and apply. good luck


you are wrong.

Thanks for reply..does the diploma need to be accredited by MQA?

Sorry if I'm wrong because this is what my friend told me.
She took A-Levels in IPTS and wanna to take Degree in IPTA but she din get anything I guess.
Maybe this statement is only relevant for those popular courses la.

note that A-level and diploma are 2 different qualifications . at diploma level, as long as it is MQA accredited, shouldn't be a problem. im not sure about non-MQA accredited courses though.

My brother entered USM Pharmacy with his A-Levels result.

I guess it depends on which uni (Apex unis have the ability to choose students without going through UPU), and whether your friend did well in A-Levels or not...

Well, yeah, perhaps.
And I think part of it is because of the screwed up education system in Malaysia.
I don't get it why the better result student cannot get the course they want when the not-so-good result got the offer.
The Ministry of Higher Education blame it on the koko marks but the koko marks is just 10%! These are all bullshit

of course.


no need sorry leh.. she didnt get it not because A-Levels in IPTS but simply cos she was pushed aside, which often happens for no logical reason..

got that right. no answer for the question.

Im a diploma in tesl education course student at MSU and the course is accredited by jpa and mqa and im also a muet band 5 holder...can i join ipta for degree in education tesl after completing my diploma? the ipta's that offering the course are um/upm/ukm/usm/ums/upsi..is there chance for me? Some people scaring me that i wont get ipta..any info? Please reply thanks

don't be scared. as i told earlier in my replies, diploma students have their fair chance for degree in ipta. plus, you have the advantage to do credit transfer if the syllabus of your diploma is deemed appropriate for this purpose by the ipta.

people can tell many tell-tale stories, happened to a niece la, friend la bla bla bla.. rather than going for this kind of sources which mostly would give unreliable answer, you might as well call the uni itself. the effort is worth the right info that you will get.

good luck in your future undertakings and studies. go ahead

as a lecturer working in UTM, i can tell u for sure about the policies on diploma students in IPTAs. this is first hand information, first hand experience (on my side, that is).

1st, in order to even propose a transfer, the diploma must be accredited by MQA. if it's not, or in the process of getting accredited, there is no chance at all.

2nd, diploma students DO NOT compete with STPM/matrics/a-levels for 1st year intake. diploma intake is usually straight to 2nd year. only those changing courses might have take 1st year subjects, but their status will still show "2nd year".

3rd, credit transfers are subject to relevancy. even if there is a similar sounding subjects in both the diploma and the degree, it might still not be transfered. this is subject to the syllabus and course content.

4th, credit transfers are subject to maximum allowable by the university. even if u have 100% similar subjects, the university will usually allow only up to 50% transfer, sometimes lower.

Thanks alot..ur a big help..and you really made me more motivated..i dnt mind if Couldn't credit transfer also..as long as i get entrance to ipta for my degree in tesl course i dont mind..as i don't want to burden my parents any more by studying at ipts and keeP on burning holes in their pockets.

So your saying i will get a chance provided that i have Excellent results in accedemic wise..and ur suggesting me to call the university and ask them straight away is it?

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Added on September 14, 2012, 6:00 pmHi azarimy thanks for you reply. i don't mind even if i couldn't get credit transfer.but msu diploma education tesl is accredited by mqa and jpa.i checked.i just don't wan to burden my parents..thats why i'm looking forward to join ipta. I need to ask you because your working in a ipta. Usually does ipta take ipts diploma students? Usually what are the requiremtns? I know even utm have degree in tesl education. Can u help to clear me out..? And really a diploma student is not competing against stpm, metric,a-level students? As i heard from a lot of sources, that i won't get a place because i will be competing with stpm and metric..? These people have made me unmotivated,stressed,panic,sad and regret choosing ipts..can u help me in anyways?thanks and looking forward for a positive reply from you sir or madam

This post has been edited by vk9545: Sep 14 2012, 06:00 PM

well i can tell for a fact that u WONT be competing against the other 1st year intakes.

and for UTM, we dont really care which university u come from as long as it's accredited by MQA. however, there have been several universities that have fallen out of grace with UTM. this is due to some dodgy dealings, abuse of responsibilities/delivery or stuff like that. i dont know if UTM's standing towards MSU or it's TESL diploma, but i do hope it's good for your sake .

that aside, the requirements are stated on UTM website, u can refer there.

Oh ok thanks for the Info sir.i did saw the requirements online. Really appreciated ur help sir..do you Know which universities have fallen out of grace with utm and other public uni's sir? Hope you can help out sorry for the trouble..

This post has been edited by vk9545: Sep 16 2012, 07:42 PM

it's course specific. so i wouldnt know any list outside architecture.

Oh thanks sir..between if i call utm or other ipta means can i inquire about which ipts that they will accept? Will they inform sir? And sir to enter ipta is it the course should hv mqa and jpa accredititation? Whats the differents with jpa and mqa accreditation sir? Which one is important?

I dont know if such information can be reveald publicly. But what u can do is just ask if it's possible transfer credit from xxx university or yyy college.

What matters is MQA accreditation. JPA uses MQA list, so they will follow suite. However, MQA only covers local institutions, while JPA also covers overseas. Bottom line is, JPA's local list should be exactly the same with MQA's, but they also have ovrsea list, MQA doesnt.

MQA maintains the standard. If something is not accredited by MQA, u can easily conclude that it is below standard. JPA on the other is just for sponsorship and government job placement.

Um/upm/ukm/utm/upsi/uiam offers degree for diploma holders in tesl education..
So what your saying is i just call the ipta's above mention that offer degree relavent to my course.. And ask them that im from msu and studied diploma education in tesl and tell them my cgpa and muet results and ask them that i can credit transfer or not? Is it so sir?

yes.

Sir is it true that utm/ukm/um/usm/upm were given the autonomy in managing their own student intakes? how does it work sir? can you explain for me? thanks

yes, it's true. but how does it work? well, literally each university is given a whole list of applicants, and we can choose based on whatever category or criteria that we please. it would also mean if this year we only wanna take 3.75 above, there's nothing a 3.74 could do even if there's 3-4 places still empty.

UPU will not interfere in the selection process. they just manage it.

yes. dont let yourself down k.

azarimy have given a better reply.

i see..how the universities given the list of application sir?by upu is it? and further more, it means the university will only set and control the intake grading.. like cgpa of stpm/metric and diploma to enter the course n uni it so sir?? how upu will manage it sir? till now not many understands how upu operates right sir? so the ipts diploma applications are usually managed by the university it self or by upu sir?

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Added on September 20, 2012, 3:48 pmthanks lord_anju.. and between are you a government servant or lecturer?

This post has been edited by vk9545: Sep 20 2012, 03:48 PM

for universities with autonomy, this is what will happen:

first of all, prospective students will submit their applications to UPU via online.

UPU will sort the names according to their choices. then the list will be sent to the respective universities. from here on, the university will select their choice of students based on their own criteria. the they will return two lists to UPU: the final list and the backup list.

UPU will then process the list and send out the offers to the finalists. if any of them rejected, there will be an empty slot. if u click the "appeal" button, the computer will look for ur name in the backup list. but if ur name is not in the backup list, u wont get the call even if the backup list have been exhausted.

when sorting ur name, they will sort based on the highest offer. if ur 1st choice rejected u, they will look into ur 2nd choice. if that also rejected u, they will look further down.

this will happen for diploma as well, but i'm not exactly clear how it is run by UPU.

hope this clears things abit.

Oh i see thanks sir...do you know anything about the teaching courses? I heard goverment will build more school and will make the education degree as open market.for ipta and ipts student to compete.what does that mean sir?and i heard they need minimum 3.0cgpa for intake of education degree students for teaching career..do you know anything about this sir? And any1 around here have any in sights on this matter?

long before this, all teachers must take a diploma perguruan before teaching. even if they already have a non-teaching degree (professional degrees like civil engineering, accountancy etc), they still need to spend some time to go through teacher training. and these are specially trained at maktab perguruan or specific faculties in a university.

it was controlled by IPTAs as the government wants full control over the quality of the training. IPTSs in the past was notorious for its focus on profits, so the government didnt want any of that.

but there are a few IPTSs that have shown that although they are profit oriented, they are also honourable, prestigious and focused on the quality as well. i believe under this notion the government are now allowing courses that were almost entirely exclusive to IPTAs now to be open to all.

and yes, if u're talking about education (urself or educating others), the minimum should be 3.00cgpa.

Yes sir your right, and i came across article from our deputy prime minister and education minister that they made bachelor education as open market degree and appointing any private or public uni students as teachers if they have a qualification of cgpa3.00 and above to have a better quality teacher and good competitiveness.

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Added on October 9, 2012, 4:01 pmSir i need to inquire another one more thing. I came across in the upu website that to pursue um/upm/ukm/utm first degree minimum requirement using ipts or ipta diploma is 3.00 with muet band 4 and upsi is 2.50 and band 3. Is it the final requirement or the uni will change it time to time without informing? few of my friends told me its safe if you have 3.50 and above with muet band 4 and above. So you can secure a place, and one of my friend told me upm need minimum 3.50cgpa and muet band 4 and above to accept diploma ipts/ipta students but when i checked in upm and upu website their minimum was 3.00 and band 4 muet for diploma ipts/ipta students. How is this works sir? Kinda confused. Hope you can explain it to me. Thanks sir.

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Added on October 18, 2012, 7:20 amsir i also need to ask you
iii. Dokumen berketerangan sendiri yang ditetapkan (seperti arahan semasa memohon) dihantar ke IPTA pilihan;
iv.Perakuan oleh JK Akademik IPTA;
what does this two documents mean sir?

please reply me sir. its been a while you didn't reply. but i do understand that your busy with your work. do help me out when you find the time.

This post has been edited by vk9545: Oct 18 2012, 07:20 AM