QUOTE(dares @ Jul 24 2012, 12:34 AM)
Me guess PajeroPROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V26, 26 threads of waxing
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Jul 24 2012, 12:40 AM
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Jul 24 2012, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jul 24 2012, 02:06 AM) Tak hairan, Dugong boleh terbang lebih tinggi daripada Kura-Kura Added on July 24, 2012, 7:36 am QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 24 2012, 01:51 AM) More than twice as good as haibreeds Diesels are good. Wished we had a Campro 1.3 TDi This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 24 2012, 07:38 AM |
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Jul 24 2012, 07:01 PM
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Jul 24 2012, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 24 2012, 09:52 PM) Out of curiosity, how many litres does it take to fuel up you guys'(and gals') Saga when there's only the last indicator remaining(but not blinking)? It kinda baffles me that even when using until the last indicator, and on the third tank of petrol now, that it barely reaches RM50 per fuel up. Is the tank REALLY that small? I normally fill up when the warning light comes on. At that point about 29-30 litres will fit in the tank. Don't think I've pumped with one solid bar remaining before. Bear in mind that as pointed out above, only about 36 litres is usable. After many tanks you will know how far to push the warning light while preserving a safe reserve amount. When the nozzle trips, the tank isn't quite full, often you can fit another 2-3 litres by gently squeezing the nozzle lever gently repeatedly until the fuel nearly overflows. Okay, about the fuel pump. Yes the fuel pump dissipates heat into the fuel as the pump is submerged in the fuel. When the warning light comes on there is still a substantial quantity of fuel left. The best way to find out is to take out the Gaga fuel tank, cut off the top part, fill just enough fuel to make the warning light disappear and see how much of the fuel pump is immersed. I don't believe the fuel pump is so fragile till the tank must always be at least half full. I've been doing this for two years and nobody here has reported a fuel pump failure. By not using the full capacity of the tank you drastically reduce the range of each tank (consumption doesn't change). I don't like filling up at the petrol station for three reasons. You have to handle the dirty nozzles, you breathe in the poisonous vapours and you expose yourself to robbery and car jacking. I'd rather run my tank low and fill up less often. |
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Jul 24 2012, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Jul 24 2012, 10:53 PM) Now is FC topic then ^^ I used to get about 400-450 km on one tank, driving around KL and PJ. Occasionally a bit more. Unlike most people I don't really get caught in bad jams, that's why. My record is 546 km on one tank. I can't analyse your chart for now, on my phone. Normally full tank can go how many KM? My full tank never go more than 400KM per full tank after 2nd pump.. wonder why... FC kept on goin worst after that... Added on July 24, 2012, 10:54 pmhttp://www.fuelly.com/driver/xiaolim/saga/fuelchart You can see it here |
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Jul 24 2012, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 24 2012, 11:32 PM) Yes, I totally understand that it doesn't fully fill up even when the nozzle trips, sometimes, it trips as the displacement of air inside the tank triggers it. As for the fuel, it's not due to the overheating, as you mentioned, more like due to the impurities in the tank being sucked up(especially when your car grows older) as the fuel filter is AFTER the pump but BEFORE reaching the fuel rail, and also the possibility of pumping dry when your take corners. That's a very good point about the filter being after the pump. I accept that there may be sediments at the bottom of the tank which may be sucked by the pump when the level is low. I wasn't really referring to you about the tank being always at least half full, as you posted some more stuff while I was typing my reply. It was more towards the general habit that some people have.Frankly, 2 years is not a very long time for the fuel pump to start showing signs of failure, give it 5 years or so, then we start talking, but, heck, I know most people changed their cars before the fuel pump even died. I never made any indication that the fuel tank needs to be always half full, I just merely mention that it's not advisable to let it run until the fuel warning lights comes on every single time. It's just my habit of refuelling before reaching 1/4 tankful. I would refrain to comment on your reasons, to each of our own reasons. Like you I am peeved about the small tank. It should be at least 50 litres, but maybe there's not enough space to fit one. This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 24 2012, 11:44 PM |
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Jul 25 2012, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 24 2012, 11:50 PM) Well.. The pump is a submerged in-tank unit on most EFi fuel tanks, and the fuel filter is almost always after it, but before the fuel rail(where it's supposed to filter out most, or rather ALL sediments to prevent it from clogging up the injectors), hence my mention of NOT frequently running dry, or almost dry. Unless it's been modified to run an external pump where you could fit a high flow filter before it(which my now-no-longer-daily car is setup), the recommendation is still to refuel before it hits warning at best. I see. And I suppose putting the filter before the pump would create too much resistance for the pump? Or is it the inconvenience of the restricted access when the filter needs to be changed? Yeah.. It would had been great if it had 45 or 50 litres, but I supposed as it's based on the Savvy platform, it's probably due to the lack of space to fit a larger one. One of the bigger peeves I had about it, others are pretty minor like the lack of a one-touch power window for the driver's window, lack of factory brake lock etc. I'm okay with the lack of one-touch power window. Brake lock is easily installed so that's not a prob. I'm the kind who likes to use their wipers as little as possible, even to the extent of turning them off when I wait at traffic lights, so the lack of a single wipe function (push stalk upwards to wipe once) and variable intermittent speed control is kinda annoying. Also, there should be a clearer indicator that the rear demister switch is on. I tend to turn it on then forget about it until much later. Cruise control would be nice for long distance highway driving, but I guess that's asking for too much in an entry level model I've been throughly enjoying my Gaga these past two days, chalking up about 150 km cos being in Penang the roads and corners are really familiar, and now that I'm back the difference made by the FSB is more apparent compared to in KL/PJ where I drive less hard. Actually I've realised, there are lots of good driving roads in Penang. The Tanjung Bungah - Batu Ferringhi - Teluk Bahang stretch is great, provided you don't get stuck behind a slowpoke. Just drove on it in the morning as I went hiking at the national park. Another nice one is the road between Batu Maung (at the end of the TLCE highway) and Bayan Lepas, which goes across the southern end of the airport runway. I used to use that road every day after work to avoid the jam in the Bayan Baru area. As for the Teluk Bahang - Balik Pulau - Teluk Kumbar stretch, I will try it soon, within the next few days. Gotta bring my friend sightseeing. This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 25 2012, 12:32 AM |
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Jul 25 2012, 12:38 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 12:41 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 12:40 AM) He really poisoned me that night Added on July 25, 2012, 12:44 am QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 12:31 AM) Looks like Gogoman secretly applied his Enduroshield on your rear screen before you took delivery of your Gaga This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 25 2012, 12:44 AM |
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Jul 25 2012, 12:51 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 12:58 AM
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Jul 25 2012, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jul 25 2012, 12:58 AM) guyz what the difference between manual flx and fl? what is getrag? my car flx manual..3.5k rpm at 110kmh..so different than cvt la..i read cvt rpm at 110kmh under 3k rpm Getrag is the manufacturer of your manual gearbox. The FL use an Aichi Kikai gearbox, which I think has pretty horrible feel. Your FLX Getrag gearbox should have much better feel, better tuned ratios and it's supposedly more efficient too. Yes the CVT's highest ratio seems a lot higher than 5th gear. Yet despite that I don't see any indication that the CVT is noticeably more efficient on the highway compared to the manual tranny despite the engine turning slower. A while ago we were discussing how consumption is not always related to engine rev, and that it's best that the correct gearing be used. Bearing in mind that the FLX's VT2 has already been tuned to the engine output characteristics, could it be that at the CVT's highest ratio, the savings by the low RPM is negated by the lower torque output so the engine has to work just as hard to push the car at 110 km/h, resulting in similar consumption as the manual tranny? If so, I can say as such. At 110 km/h, the CVT has lower RPM resulting in less engine noise. The manual tranny is buzzing at 3,500 RPM, so it's noiser, but at that range, the throttle response for overtaking is excellent. I haven't driven the CVT on the highway so I can't say about that. PS I think Getrag makes manual trannies for Porsche so I guess it must be really good This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 25 2012, 01:29 AM |
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Jul 25 2012, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 03:34 AM) Correct QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jul 25 2012, 05:23 AM) Gear 1 @ 3.5k-4k rpm *may* cause unintentional wheelspins. Twice kena already. First at normal level road. Second at downhill Cos it's peak torque mah QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 25 2012, 06:32 AM) Ahh so I supposed Potong decided that 911 > GTR hence the switch Looking at the AK gearbox for BLM and FL, it seems that it can't even take the S4PE's 150 nm of tork PS Chris Harris is an awesome reviewer This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 25 2012, 09:59 AM |
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Jul 25 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 10:05 AM) Eh shoot I always get confused between S4PE and S4PH. I meant S4PH...PS my tyres are 34 PSI front, 32 rear, cold. Inflated before driving off with a bicycle pump and checked with a pressure gauge. |
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Jul 25 2012, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 10:25 AM) Then them cab drivers will be replacing their GBs often Above the recommended pressure. The max pressure stated on my XM2 is 51 PSI, beyond that only considered overinflated You pressures are abit on the overinflated side, no? Maybe another piece of the puzzle of lhwj's awesome FC I went to check out my air condition blower filter after you guys talked so much about it. Will post pic later. |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 25 2012, 12:07 PM) question for flx se user Maybe the lock alignment is out do u guys find it hard to close you boot? mine hard woh. minimum force cannot close medium force cannot close too hard force can close need to hard shut and press a bit the boot and can close ady |
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Jul 25 2012, 12:23 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 01:49 PM) My latest is about 10.5km/l only. But I think my tires is the bigger culprit Your FLX SE's speedo goes to 240 km, rite? Dunno whether Potong calibrated it for the 195/50/15 tyres. My speedo compared to GPS is pretty accurate.BTW, bigger tires also slightly affect traveled-distance count like it affects speedometer accuracy right? My speed now match closer to my speedometer, last time got as much as 5km/h difference to GPS Memang. Added on July 25, 2012, 2:10 pm QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 25 2012, 01:45 PM) This post has been edited by lhwj: Jul 25 2012, 02:10 PM |
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