
ridhuan tee + family (1 wife, 5 kids), 4x more than av msian chinese family
ridhuan tee + family (1 wife, 5 kids), 4x more than av msian chinese family
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y want to compare? anyth special...
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lu igt cainis meleisia same cainis mainland kew 1 family 1 anak? bongok la ts
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How old is his dotter?
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Average malaysian chinese is 3 la.. apalah TS..
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apehal tak cium keris?
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kompare for..?
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kenapa anak dia macam muka melayu ?
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dis fag sikit2 label dap ultra kiasu, ultra kiasu..dafuq
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Stupid idiot trying to be a race he isnt. That race kena trolled kaw kaw.
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he shud go for plastic surgery n make his eyes not so sepet.
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average chinese is 2 + (3 from mistress) = 5
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so he got bumi status yet?
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does it matter now many children he have ? Let him live his own life
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Lelaki 'melayu' terakhir!!
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the wife is malay..=)
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nak sebok pasal anak bini org lain..korang tu dapat kawin pon belum tentu lagi ahahahhaha
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Jul 20 2012, 06:43 PM) because 1. he is chinese 2. he understand mandarin in conclusion he really knows everything about his people, about what they say and what they really want. only malays are thinking they are unity among PAS, DAP and PKR. wait till DAP show their true color. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 03:15 AM) because huh?1. he is chinese 2. he understand mandarin in conclusion he really knows everything about his people, about what they say and what they really want. only malays are thinking they are unity among PAS, DAP and PKR. wait till DAP show their true color. muyutin said even ameno dunno how malai think. how can he knows everything about his people? he is branded traitor if i'm not mistaken. |
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He knows everything about Chinese people? PTUIH!
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A chinese who is calling himself a malay
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 21 2012, 03:26 AM) huh? he was called a traitor because he convert into islam and start criticizing his own race, especially DAP. and that really shows how tolerate they are.muyutin said even ameno dunno how malai think. how can he knows everything about his people? he is branded traitor if i'm not mistaken. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 03:20 PM) he was called a traitor because he convert into islam and start criticizing his own race, especially DAP. and that really shows how tolerate they are. What if he is really what he is alleged to be? We can't call a spade a spade? This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Jul 21 2012, 03:27 PM |
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A Tee
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nanti anak dia semua masuk umno
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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Jul 21 2012, 04:10 PM) You go read his writings.Here, a critique. http://hartalmsm.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/...da-scary-truly/ |
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 21 2012, 04:13 PM) You go read his writings. betul la tuHere, a critique. http://hartalmsm.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/...da-scary-truly/ apa scarynya memang betul,tengok la apa yahudi dah buat pada dunia. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 03:20 PM) he was called a traitor because he convert into islam and start criticizing his own race, especially DAP. and that really shows how tolerate they are. ya, DAP cannot tolerate stupid ppl critic them, problem?mahafiraun cannot tolerate smart ppl critic them, problem? |
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 21 2012, 04:13 PM) You go read his writings. it is just a matter of opinion. and how you understand it. i dont think he is actually suggesting that ethnic cleansing should take into place. and to consider he is actually a muslim and never in this world muslim did any massacre or ethnic cleansing for that matter. muslim soldiers treat their POWs with great respects and that is the teaching of Islam. Here, a critique. http://hartalmsm.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/...da-scary-truly/ ridhuan tee is a pious muslim who wrote the truth about certain people of his race. and oversensitive ultra kiasu couldnt accept even the slightest critics, and call him traitor. |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jul 21 2012, 04:39 PM) ya, DAP cannot tolerate stupid ppl critic them, problem? mahafiraun is mahathir? go read at his blog and see how he never filter any of the comments. unlike anwar ibrahim who shoo away anyone who ask question not favor of him in press conference. and mahathir cannot tolerate critics? mahafiraun cannot tolerate smart ppl critic them, problem? |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 05:24 PM) it is just a matter of opinion. and how you understand it. i dont think he is actually suggesting that ethnic cleansing should take into place. and to consider he is actually a muslim and never in this world muslim did any massacre or ethnic cleansing for that matter. muslim soldiers treat their POWs with great respects and that is the teaching of Islam. Yes, it is just a matter of opinion. ridhuan tee is a pious muslim who wrote the truth about certain people of his race. and oversensitive ultra kiasu couldnt accept even the slightest critics, and call him traitor. You obviously think he is so great. Then again, birds of a feather tend to flock together. I say this judging from what you have been posting all this while. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 05:26 PM) mahafiraun is mahathir? go read at his blog and see how he never filter any of the comments. unlike anwar ibrahim who shoo away anyone who ask question not favor of him in press conference. and mahathir cannot tolerate critics? Oh, that's just his blog. While he was PM, did he tolerate criticism very well? Oh, he must also be another someone you look up to, besides Ridhuan Tee. |
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jangan main2..ni ulama' besar/kroni umno ni.. seangkatan dengan fathul bari..hahahhahaha
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 05:26 PM) mahafiraun is mahathir? go read at his blog and see how he never filter any of the comments. unlike anwar ibrahim who shoo away anyone who ask question not favor of him in press conference. and mahathir cannot tolerate critics? So is hindraf for hindus only or also for indian muslim? Also, can we get mahathir to do a dna test to see he is more of an indian or malay?Why is Indian in malaysia neglected when they have one as a national leader? |
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 22 2012, 12:35 AM) Oh, that's just his blog. that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly. While he was PM, did he tolerate criticism very well? Oh, he must also be another someone you look up to, besides Ridhuan Tee. QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 12:56 AM) So is hindraf for hindus only or also for indian muslim? Also, can we get mahathir to do a dna test to see he is more of an indian or malay? you went too far to even question his colour. you should look into yourself. i am indian myself and i am doing well and i dont know which part of me or my family were being neglected where we dont even have any political influences at all. me and my family are just normal citizen and we dont have any bumi rights to begin with. but all of us, human being have one thing in common to success, that is hard work. lots of indian out there realize about this and they start working hard and some even better than me, they own restaurant, open their law practice, their clinics and some even monopoly the satellite tv. yes they are indianWhy is Indian in malaysia neglected when they have one as a national leader? if you all about asking a favour you might get it but in return it wont be a dignify life. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:25 AM) that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly. what a great reply to a racist remarkyou went too far to even question his colour. you should look into yourself. i am indian myself and i am doing well and i dont know which part of me or my family were being neglected where we dont even have any political influences at all. me and my family are just normal citizen and we dont have any bumi rights to begin with. but all of us, human being have one thing in common to success, that is hard work. lots of indian out there realize about this and they start working hard and some even better than me, they own restaurant, open their law practice, their clinics and some even monopoly the satellite tv. yes they are indian if you all about asking a favour you might get it but in return it wont be a dignify life. This post has been edited by hazremi: Jul 22 2012, 05:02 AM |
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This guys is a traitor
He sell his soul for benefits Itsut like those chinese who served Japanese military during world war 2 for benefits |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:25 AM) that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly. Oh, I disagree. I think Mahathir did not lead very well. Malaysia is where it is now today, mainly because of him. And I ain't saying that is something good. |
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His daughter is cute.... Danny will like this
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Of course it's easy to raise lots of children if your family can be subsidized.
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 05:24 PM) it is just a matter of opinion. and how you understand it. i dont think he is actually suggesting that ethnic cleansing should take into place. and to consider he is actually a muslim and never in this world muslim did any massacre or ethnic cleansing for that matter. muslim soldiers treat their POWs with great respects and that is the teaching of Islam. Admittedly I've never actually seen a muslim army, but all the terrorists I hear of (who claim to be muslim) don't usually take prisoners at all. |
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he's nao bumi yo!
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:10 AM) Are the natives the majority race in the USA and have a powerful political party and various racial-based NGOs looking out for their interests like in Malaysia? They are bumiputra same as those guys. They're only not the majority cos they don't have that many kids. If they did they would be the majority |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 22 2012, 11:15 AM) They are bumiputra same as those guys. They're only not the majority cos they don't have that many kids. If they did they would be the majority Then why are you comparing their situation with Malaysia's? Our affirmative actions are designed to protect the majority, not the way it's practiced in all other countries except for South Africa. |
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:17 AM) Then why are you comparing their situation with Malaysia's? Our affirmative actions are designed to protect the majority, not the way it's practiced in all other countries except for South Africa. Native rights are native rights, if they were a minority they'd still have the same rights. It just so happens that they are not. They have those rights because they are natives, not because they are a majority This post has been edited by wodenus: Jul 22 2012, 11:20 AM |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 22 2012, 11:20 AM) Native rights are native rights, if they were a minority they'd still have the same rights. It just so happens that they are not. They have those rights because they are natives, not because they are a majority circular logic is circular logic. so what makes a right, a right? |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:25 AM) that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly. So you mean hindraf is a scam? Since they always shout that indians are being discriminated? I thought previously you talk so much about KBP folks being discriminated that they are "forced" out of their own land? So now suddenly all is jolly good for you, lol.you went too far to even question his colour. you should look into yourself. i am indian myself and i am doing well and i dont know which part of me or my family were being neglected where we dont even have any political influences at all. me and my family are just normal citizen and we dont have any bumi rights to begin with. but all of us, human being have one thing in common to success, that is hard work. lots of indian out there realize about this and they start working hard and some even better than me, they own restaurant, open their law practice, their clinics and some even monopoly the satellite tv. yes they are indian if you all about asking a favour you might get it but in return it wont be a dignify life. So what is wrong if mahafiaun admits his dna is more of an indian? Can ridhuan tee's offspring deny that their dna is more of a chinese later on in their life? Or will they conveniently pass off as a malay? |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 05:29 AM) im just telling out the truth. some people neglect the truth so they find easy way out blaming others for their sorry life, instead of working hard to achieve success. I guess you are saying that those millions of indian estate workers are not working hard enough. Am i right? |
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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Jul 21 2012, 04:28 PM) bangsa cina tak merbahaya seperti bangsa yahudi.bangsa cina dikategorikan sebagai non-muslim seperti bangsa lain.tapi bangsa yahudi kena berjaga jaga.Nabi pun diorang sanggup bunuh(nabi yahya kalau tak salah aku kena potong 2 dengan gergaji)...Saki baki yahudi yang ada hari ini.merupakan saki yahudi yang ada pada masa yang lepas. |
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 22 2012, 11:51 AM) bangsa cina tak merbahaya seperti bangsa yahudi.bangsa cina dikategorikan sebagai non-muslim seperti bangsa lain.tapi bangsa yahudi kena berjaga jaga.Nabi pun diorang sanggup bunuh(nabi yahya kalau tak salah aku kena potong 2 dengan gergaji)... Just because some jews did bad thing, doesnt mean the whole jews should be condemnSaki baki yahudi yang ada hari ini.merupakan saki yahudi yang ada pada masa yang lepas. |
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QUOTE(Annoynimous @ Jul 22 2012, 12:15 PM) kalau tanya aku.aku cakap 50-50.jews otak diorang sangat bergeliga.sangat pandai putarbelit.sangat pandai dalam soaljawab...itu pasal Negara arab boleh duduk dengan yahudi.yahudi boleh duduk ditengah2 negara arab. |
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QUOTE(liverpool2020 @ Jul 22 2012, 05:31 AM) This guys is a traitor He sell his soul for benefits Itsut like those chinese who served Japanese military during world war 2 for benefits QUOTE(ray123 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:12 AM) Next you'll be saying anyone and everyone who bowed their heads when the British and later on the Japanese overlords walk past were all traitors without any exceptions. This is what we call a selective judgement. One fella who convert to islam and openly telling the truth about his race and criticisize the over kiasu attitude of certain people are call traitor. Another fella who was a politician and openly admitted he is the type of person who the end justify the means and historically proven he is traitor, according to some, is not a traitor. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 03:46 PM) This is what we call a selective judgement. One fella who convert to islam and openly telling the truth about his race and criticisize the over kiasu attitude of certain people are call traitor. meanwhile there are hundreds and thousands of chinese muslims who dont have to become malay to be muslim. Another fella who was a politician and openly admitted he is the type of person who the end justify the means and historically proven he is traitor, according to some, is not a traitor. They're still perfectly chinese, and muslim. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 03:46 PM) This is what we call a selective judgement. One fella who convert to islam and openly telling the truth about his race and criticisize the over kiasu attitude of certain people are call traitor. Errr...that's not the truth; that is his opinion only and he might well be wrong. Another fella who was a politician and openly admitted he is the type of person who the end justify the means and historically proven he is traitor, according to some, is not a traitor. Why keep bringing up his conversion? Does it lend more weight to his opinions? |
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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:26 AM) So you mean hindraf is a scam? Since they always shout that indians are being discriminated? I thought previously you talk so much about KBP folks being discriminated that they are "forced" out of their own land? So now suddenly all is jolly good for you, lol. So what is wrong if mahafiaun admits his dna is more of an indian? Can ridhuan tee's offspring deny that their dna is more of a chinese later on in their life? Or will they conveniently pass off as a malay? QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:29 AM) I guess you are saying that those millions of indian estate workers are not working hard enough. Am i right? First of all, hindraf is not a scam. It is illegal organization who have blur mission and objective and they dont have clear path on what they are trying to achieve and what they are trying to fight for. Same like perkasa who are nothing but just a media show. They will assembly, make noise and media will be there. nothing more than that. The only different is hindraf is illegal, and they use force. remember their first illegal demo when they claimed they have been brutalised but as a matter of fact they are the ones who throw stones and beat the crap out of the police. It was like punching buffet for klang gangsters.Both mahathur and ridhuan tee never deny their blood. Ridhuan tee still visits his parents and they have very good relationships and that my friend is the teaching of islam. Third. I am indian, my grandparents was cattle farmer in kampung buah pala and we are poor. My parents work hard and land him a small flat. I work had and i bought a terrace and an apartment. Not only me but lots of indian work hard and they got what they deserve and we dont even need any special rights. You are trying so hard to paint a poor picture on indian community giving false image that indian are soo poor and heavily marginalised where the fact we are doing extremely well and we are all are having a healthy discussion in the largest online community in malaysia, founded by an indian. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:00 PM) First of all, hindraf is not a scam. It is illegal organization who have blur mission and objective and they dont have clear path on what they are trying to achieve and what they are trying to fight for. Same like perkasa who are nothing but just a media show. They will assembly, make noise and media will be there. nothing more than that. The only different is hindraf is illegal, and they use force. remember their first illegal demo when they claimed they have been brutalised but as a matter of fact they are the ones who throw stones and beat the crap out of the police. It was like punching buffet for klang gangsters. I guess you are also good at passing on opinions as truths...Both mahathur and ridhuan tee never deny their blood. Ridhuan tee still visits his parents and they have very good relationships and that my friend is the teaching of islam. Third. I am indian, my grandparents was cattle farmer in kampung buah pala and we are poor. My parents work hard and land him a small flat. I work had and i bought a terrace and an apartment. Not only me but lots of indian work hard and they got what they deserve and we dont even need any special rights. You are trying so hard to paint a poor picture on indian community giving false image that indian are soo poor and heavily marginalised where the fact we are doing extremely well and we are all are having a healthy discussion in the largest online community in malaysia, founded by an indian. |
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 22 2012, 03:54 PM) Errr...that's not the truth; that is his opinion only and he might well be wrong. Yes. You are right. that is merely his opinion and he might be wrong. But that still does not justify himself to be called a traitor. I am stating fact that he is muslim. Thats all.Why keep bringing up his conversion? Does it lend more weight to his opinions? |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:05 PM) Yes. You are right. that is merely his opinion and he might be wrong. But that still does not justify himself to be called a traitor. I am stating fact that he is muslim. Thats all. Hey, why not? Those people are expressing their opinions. And they might well be right. That's all? You been saying it and saying it again. Should mean something. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:00 PM) First of all, hindraf is not a scam. It is illegal organization who have blur mission and objective and they dont have clear path on what they are trying to achieve and what they are trying to fight for. Same like perkasa who are nothing but just a media show. They will assembly, make noise and media will be there. nothing more than that. The only different is hindraf is illegal, and they use force. remember their first illegal demo when they claimed they have been brutalised but as a matter of fact they are the ones who throw stones and beat the crap out of the police. It was like punching buffet for klang gangsters. No, i did not mention that the Indian are poor. I am merely quoting what Hindraf and other Indian based NGOs are saying. They say that majority of Indian are marginalized, and you are telling me otherwise. So, either you are right and or they are right. If you are right, then those Indian based NGOs are spreading lies all these while, am I right? That is the question i am throwing to you, and you dont have to twist and turn to answer, just yes and no will do.Both mahathur and ridhuan tee never deny their blood. Ridhuan tee still visits his parents and they have very good relationships and that my friend is the teaching of islam. Third. I am indian, my grandparents was cattle farmer in kampung buah pala and we are poor. My parents work hard and land him a small flat. I work had and i bought a terrace and an apartment. Not only me but lots of indian work hard and they got what they deserve and we dont even need any special rights. You are trying so hard to paint a poor picture on indian community giving false image that indian are soo poor and heavily marginalised where the fact we are doing extremely well and we are all are having a healthy discussion in the largest online community in malaysia, founded by an indian. Secondly, since when did Mahathir says he is an Indian? Can an Indian join UMNO, instead of MIC? Please enlighten me. Thank You. Also, being filial is a teaching of Confucius. And that dated back to aprrox 500 BC, while Islam is being founded aprox 600AD . |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 05:26 PM) mahafiraun is mahathir? go read at his blog and see how he never filter any of the comments. unlike anwar ibrahim who shoo away anyone who ask question not favor of him in press conference. and mahathir cannot tolerate critics? i heard that maha put ppl into jail |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:25 AM) that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly. hahahahaha you went too far to even question his colour. you should look into yourself. i am indian myself and i am doing well and i dont know which part of me or my family were being neglected where we dont even have any political influences at all. me and my family are just normal citizen and we dont have any bumi rights to begin with. but all of us, human being have one thing in common to success, that is hard work. lots of indian out there realize about this and they start working hard and some even better than me, they own restaurant, open their law practice, their clinics and some even monopoly the satellite tv. yes they are indian if you all about asking a favour you might get it but in return it wont be a dignify life. cainis help cainis, malai help malai, and you....didnt help and say hey, they dont need help!! hahahahahahahahha i know i know..... |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 22 2012, 11:07 AM) wat talking you????native is majority in USA?? native is president?? unemployed.....er....you sick?? wat talking you?? how about you tell that to malaysian in USA, UK, AUS that left malaysia for good? |
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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 04:54 PM) No, i did not mention that the Indian are poor. I am merely quoting what Hindraf and other Indian based NGOs are saying. They say that majority of Indian are marginalized, and you are telling me otherwise. So, either you are right and or they are right. If you are right, then those Indian based NGOs are spreading lies all these while, am I right? That is the question i am throwing to you, and you dont have to twist and turn to answer, just yes and no will do. I am twist and turn and you expect a yes and no answer from me? Playing lawyer now. You should tell me earlier, saves me trouble to write a lengthy post. Secondly, since when did Mahathir says he is an Indian? Can an Indian join UMNO, instead of MIC? Please enlighten me. Thank You. Also, being filial is a teaching of Confucius. And that dated back to aprrox 500 BC, while Islam is being founded aprox 600AD . Islam teach its follower to love and respect parents especially mother. I am not arguing who starts the idea, but then again you might end up accuse me twist and turn. |
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other thread kena nuked, just because it is correcting misconceptions that Islam =melayu.
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who is more malay ?
ridhuan tee abdullah or Zairil " Khir Johari" Abdullah ? |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 05:03 PM) I am twist and turn and you expect a yes and no answer from me? Playing lawyer now. You should tell me earlier, saves me trouble to write a lengthy post. So you dont have the guts to say all those Indian based NGOs are lying?Islam teach its follower to love and respect parents especially mother. I am not arguing who starts the idea, but then again you might end up accuse me twist and turn. |
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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 06:54 PM) Why should i accuse them of lying? All of ngos regardless of race have their own objectives. Hindraf are not ngos and they are illegal and they have blur vision about what they are fighting for. They accuse the government are sideline the indian which is off course not true. I dont go ballisitc and call all of the ngos are lying. I hope you can engage in this discussion in such a healthy and respective manner. |
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Jul 22 2012, 06:17 PM) You got it worng, ridhuan tee is not a malay on the first place. He is mualaf. A muslim convert. Muslim is not exclysively only for malay. This misconception should be clear. You can google and see how even a norwegian convert to islam and and they are muslim and they are not malay. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 07:02 PM) Why should i accuse them of lying? All of ngos regardless of race have their own objectives. Hindraf are not ngos and they are illegal and they have blur vision about what they are fighting for. They accuse the government are sideline the indian which is off course not true. I dont go ballisitc and call all of the ngos are lying. I hope you can engage in this discussion in such a healthy and respective manner. But most Indian based NGOs are accusing the goverment of sidelining the Indian. Since you are right, they must be lying then. So, please go ahead and sue this NGO and tell them right on their face that they are a LIAR for accusing the goverment. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 07:24 PM) You got it worng, ridhuan tee is not a malay on the first place. He is mualaf. A muslim convert. Muslim is not exclysively only for malay. This misconception should be clear. How do you define Malay? This is what according to the constitution of Malaysia. You seems to enjoy putting your own personal opinion as the Gospel truth without caring about facts.You can google and see how even a norwegian convert to islam and and they are muslim and they are not malay. Article 160(2) of the Constitution of Malaysia defines various terms used in the Constitution. It has an important impact on Islam in Malaysia and the Malay people due to its definition of a Malay person. The article defines a Malay as a person who satisfies two sets of criteria: First, the person must be one who professes to be a Muslim, habitually speaks the Malay language, and adheres to Malay customs. Second, the person must have been: (i) (a) domiciled in the Federation or Singapore on Merdeka Day, (b) born in the Federation or Singapore before Merdeka Day, or © born before Merdeka Day of parents one of whom was born in the Federation or Singapore, (collectively, the "Merdeka Day population") or (ii) is a descendent of a member of the Merdeka Day population. |
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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 08:22 PM) But most Indian based NGOs are accusing the goverment of sidelining the Indian. Since you are right, they must be lying then. So, please go ahead and sue this NGO and tell them right on their face that they are a LIAR for accusing the goverment. You should do that instead of forcing to do something not in my interest. I dont for a fact call any ngo are liar and as hindraf is not ngo, it is illegal establishment. I never say i was right but that is my opinion and i stand firm on it and i expect you to respect and share out your opinion. You dont have to be emotional and ask me to sue just because you have problem consuming my opinion. Bear in mind this is free country and everyone have rights to express their own opinion. You might not like my opinion but you have option to just ignore or share your opinion but not up to getting emotional and accuse me of saying others are lying. And went further to forcing me to sue others. I dont know what are you trying to achieve and what are you trying to convey here. Perhaps you can bring your extremist idea to other place that might find it as amusingQUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 08:25 PM) How do you define Malay? This is what according to the constitution of Malaysia. You seems to enjoy putting your own personal opinion as the Gospel truth without caring about facts. Malay is a race. Chinese is a race too. Constituition is there to provide guidance and valid according to the law but you might missed out that in johor their definition of malay went another step higher in which it defines that malay who were born in johor will be acknowledged as malay which directly renders all malay in other state to become non malay. Article 160(2) of the Constitution of Malaysia defines various terms used in the Constitution. It has an important impact on Islam in Malaysia and the Malay people due to its definition of a Malay person. The article defines a Malay as a person who satisfies two sets of criteria: First, the person must be one who professes to be a Muslim, habitually speaks the Malay language, and adheres to Malay customs. Second, the person must have been: (i) (a) domiciled in the Federation or Singapore on Merdeka Day, (b) born in the Federation or Singapore before Merdeka Day, or © born before Merdeka Day of parents one of whom was born in the Federation or Singapore, (collectively, the "Merdeka Day population") or (ii) is a descendent of a member of the Merdeka Day population. I am indian. I embrace islam just recently and i speak malay so does that mean i am a malay now? My physical appearance suggest the otherwise and i am even proud to acknowledge myself as indian rather than blindly labelling myself as malay. |
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lol bergaduh dengan si joe mamak. memang la sampai ke tua dia nak menang..in fact dia bukan betul pun...
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 08:53 PM) You should do that instead of forcing to do something not in my interest. I dont for a fact call any ngo are liar and as hindraf is not ngo, it is illegal establishment. I never say i was right but that is my opinion and i stand firm on it and i expect you to respect and share out your opinion. You dont have to be emotional and ask me to sue just because you have problem consuming my opinion. Bear in mind this is free country and everyone have rights to express their own opinion. You might not like my opinion but you have option to just ignore or share your opinion but not up to getting emotional and accuse me of saying others are lying. And went further to forcing me to sue others. I dont know what are you trying to achieve and what are you trying to convey here. Perhaps you can bring your extremist idea to other place that might find it as amusing i must admit that indian much tolerate than chinese.Malay is a race. Chinese is a race too. Constituition is there to provide guidance and valid according to the law but you might missed out that in johor their definition of malay went another step higher in which it defines that malay who were born in johor will be acknowledged as malay which directly renders all malay in other state to become non malay. I am indian. I embrace islam just recently and i speak malay so does that mean i am a malay now? My physical appearance suggest the otherwise and i am even proud to acknowledge myself as indian rather than blindly labelling myself as malay. |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 08:53 PM) You should do that instead of forcing to do something not in my interest. I dont for a fact call any ngo are liar and as hindraf is not ngo, it is illegal establishment. I never say i was right but that is my opinion and i stand firm on it and i expect you to respect and share out your opinion. You dont have to be emotional and ask me to sue just because you have problem consuming my opinion. Bear in mind this is free country and everyone have rights to express their own opinion. You might not like my opinion but you have option to just ignore or share your opinion but not up to getting emotional and accuse me of saying others are lying. And went further to forcing me to sue others. I dont know what are you trying to achieve and what are you trying to convey here. Perhaps you can bring your extremist idea to other place that might find it as amusing I thought constitution is the highest law in any country, not to provide guidance ?.Malay is a race. Chinese is a race too. Constituition is there to provide guidance and valid according to the law but you might missed out that in johor their definition of malay went another step higher in which it defines that malay who were born in johor will be acknowledged as malay which directly renders all malay in other state to become non malay. I am indian. I embrace islam just recently and i speak malay so does that mean i am a malay now? My physical appearance suggest the otherwise and i am even proud to acknowledge myself as indian rather than blindly labelling myself as malay. |
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QUOTE(11c @ Jul 22 2012, 09:20 PM) You are right it is the highest law in any country but can you imagine people are actually want to amend the constitution? Plus is is a man made law so please dont be like some who take it as divineY |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 09:24 PM) You are right it is the highest law in any country but can you imagine people are actually want to amend the constitution? Plus is is a man made law so please dont be like some who take it as divine Who wants to amend the constitution? Tell me. Y Also, ask yourself how many times the constitution has already been amended since it first came into being. And by who? |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 09:24 PM) You are right it is the highest law in any country but can you imagine people are actually want to amend the constitution? Plus is is a man made law so please dont be like some who take it as divine Will you register your child as an Indian or Malay?Y Added on July 22, 2012, 10:49 pm QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 09:24 PM) You are right it is the highest law in any country but can you imagine people are actually want to amend the constitution? Plus is is a man made law so please dont be like some who take it as divine Will you register your child as an Indian or Malay?Y This post has been edited by klk888: Jul 22 2012, 10:49 PM |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 02:05 AM) You are a proud Indian Muslim, and you keep saying that. So, i dont see why you cant give a direct answer as you will register your child as Indian. Remember dont lie in the Ramadhan month. |
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leeches, has been going around tok cock and bull without facts. suggesting that songlap is OKAY under the current administration. must be one of the pro BN cronies. i wonder how much he got for getting to be a BN trooper? leeches, mind telling us how CIA trained you?
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jul 23 2012, 02:33 PM) leeches, has been going around tok cock and bull without facts. suggesting that songlap is OKAY under the current administration. must be one of the pro BN cronies. i wonder how much he got for getting to be a BN trooper? leeches, mind telling us how CIA trained you? He is still waiting for Utusan directive to spin his way out i guess. |
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siapa mamat ni? kenapa korang sanggup bergaduh sampai 7 pages?
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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 23 2012, 10:39 AM) You are a proud Indian Muslim, and you keep saying that. So, i dont see why you cant give a direct answer as you will register your child as Indian. Remember dont lie in the Ramadhan month. QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 23 2012, 11:11 AM) QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 23 2012, 11:38 AM) QUOTE(hackwire @ Jul 23 2012, 02:33 PM) leeches, has been going around tok cock and bull without facts. suggesting that songlap is OKAY under the current administration. must be one of the pro BN cronies. i wonder how much he got for getting to be a BN trooper? leeches, mind telling us how CIA trained you? QUOTE(herbie35 @ Jul 23 2012, 02:43 PM) QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 23 2012, 03:37 PM) wow this thread has become a hate thread about me. so much for the freedom of speech. i will just leave it here and will not answer any of the above. feel free to make any assumption to suit your ego |
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 04:39 PM) wow this thread has become a hate thread about me. so much for the freedom of speech. Sad that your master abandon you and did not provide you with any script to spin.i will just leave it here and will not answer any of the above. feel free to make any assumption to suit your ego Anyway, what is so hard to say u wont register your child as Indian Muslim? Unless of course you already have some funky idea to benefit from our system. Remember dont lie during Ramadan, dear newly convert. |
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Cina masuk Islam jadi Melayu?
Cina masuk kristian pulak leh jadi Mat Salleh? Logik tak? |
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Jul 23 2012, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 04:36 PM) Why not? You insinuated that some people want to amend the constitution. Seems you take issue with that, right? While you seem not the least bit concerned that there has been many amendments made to the constitution. By some count, hundreds of amendments. Or perhaps you are ok with that because the amendments were made by BN. |
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Jul 23 2012, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 04:39 PM) wow this thread has become a hate thread about me. so much for the freedom of speech. Eh? In no way is your freedom of speech being curtailed here. i will just leave it here and will not answer any of the above. feel free to make any assumption to suit your ego Others are just exercising their freedom of speech to flame, poke fun, point out inconsistencies in your posts. |
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Jul 23 2012, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 23 2012, 04:50 PM) Why not? nope. i am fully aware with audience here and how your replied, so i guess the best thing is not to answer. it will lead to nowhere. look pal, people here even start to judge me and even went further asking about my personal things so what is there for me to say? i guess if it happen in real life you guys might even send a life bullet to me. You insinuated that some people want to amend the constitution. Seems you take issue with that, right? While you seem not the least bit concerned that there has been many amendments made to the constitution. By some count, hundreds of amendments. Or perhaps you are ok with that because the amendments were made by BN. |
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Jul 23 2012, 04:54 PM
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Jul 23 2012, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 04:52 PM) nope. i am fully aware with audience here and how your replied, so i guess the best thing is not to answer. it will lead to nowhere. look pal, people here even start to judge me and even went further asking about my personal things so what is there for me to say? i guess if it happen in real life you guys might even send a life bullet to me. Eh. I probably have picked up many more haters than you. They can even form a "fan" club already. What do you mean leads to nowhere? You insinuated that there are parties about to amend the constitution but conveniently neglect to mention that it has been amended hundreds of times already. I think it is leading to somewhere good. |
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Jul 23 2012, 04:59 PM
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Jul 23 2012, 05:01 PM
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Jul 23 2012, 05:09 PM
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Jul 23 2012, 05:17 PM
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Added on July 23, 2012, 5:20 pm QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 03:15 AM) lol please la.This fella talks quite a bit of crap, especially the grave article quite a few years ago lol. Dude's a joker la. This post has been edited by khelben: Jul 23 2012, 05:21 PM |
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Jul 23 2012, 06:04 PM
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