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post Sep 1 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Aug 30 2012, 07:04 PM)
im happy for u so far had such good experience on ur new passat. I used to be strictly jap only, and specifically honda. From old bullet civic to city, to civic fd2, crv, and recently looking for d-segment, and chose K5 instead. Planning to change my wife fd2, thinking abt wanna try conti feel. tried few times passat, jetta, polo. but no doubt, the car handling tops jap/korean anytime, but my biggest worry is the overall ownership experience.

service wise, parts reliability. How is it? Heard such as ECU burnt, but what's the percentage like?

FC from wat i hear from u guys, is at the good side. no concern there. I even have a close fren who own a jetta, and i tried many times already. He got somewhere 11c/km shah alam sg buloh everyday ~150km/hr
I know, no car is perfect, and im not looking for one. Just need to get the balance.

my immediate choice will be golf, but wife dont like hatch, but actually i wanted to tell her, im choosing, not her.
Jetta, she hates the interior. Passat she likes. I Tot abt mondeo too.

Wat u guys think abt overall ownership of VW in msia?
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I dunno if I'm the best person to ask in regards to servicing a VW as I haven't done my first service yet. But so far, there's no hitches with our other Typ 6R Polo TSI which my family owns for the past year or so. Then again that car has less than 15k mileage on it even after 1 year+ of ownership so again, not your typical VW owner.

FC can range from very good to bad depending on how ridiculously you try to drive the car. LOL! Heavy footers and torque lovers will no doubt kill the FC of these cars quite easily.

So far I'm happy with my car and to be frank, when I drove my wife's new Civic for the past 2 days, the immediate thought was.... damn this car is slow. At the same time, the suspension also feels softer and more comfortable over bumps compared to continentals. But at the end of the day though, it is very highly unlikely I will ever buy another Japu or Kimchi car ever again. Once you tasted the power and torque of turbocharged cars, there's no going back drool.gif

So if you do buy your wife a Passat or Golf etc, my advise is don't drive them too much or you might not want to go back to your K5 again. The driving pleasure is just miles and miles ahead of the Jap/Kor cars
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post Sep 1 2012, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Sep 1 2012, 10:16 AM)
earlier, was looking for d-segment when passat was still cbu germany, and have torrid time selecting it. Then decided to  NOT overspend on car hence the 140k K5 (48k difference). Needed the d-segment for space to have comfortable cabin room to ferry 4 adults and a baby seat. Now that my house fd2 has clocked over 100k km odo, and 5 years old, thinking of replacing it with something agile, and conti, hence the golf. But now that passat ckd has got the price slashed 15k, had me thinking again. Golf and passat not much difference, rite?
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Actually, we had a bit of a loan issue with our new FB Civic and the car was delayed for well over a month because of it. The reason was so stupid that I seriously contemplated switching over to the new Beetle instead. Had it been delayed for another week or 2, I would have just cancelled and bought the new Beetle instead.

1. It's the new beetle, it looks chic and stylish. Even guy driving it won't look funny this time round.
2. It's turbocharged, the 1.2 TSI will be good enough for daily commuting purposes
3. My family and baby will use the Passat for shopping or outstation, so the Beetle will be the fun car a quick weekend get away.

Anyway, wife decided not to change and the new Civic did arrive just before Merdeka. But actually, our case is exactly the same. So if I were you, the golf or beetle would be good choices but ultimately, it's up to your wife. Right now, we have 2 sedans and the feeling is somewhat... meh! The only good thing about it is I can save on mileage for the Passat and drive the Civic every now and then.

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post Sep 27 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(nickyrox @ Sep 27 2012, 03:36 PM)
Guys.. Need some opinions... Frankly speaking I love the new passat CC sport..  But it skyrocket my budget..  My budget around 150k.. So was thinking of golf tsi 1.4.. But I want the mk7 version.. Any idea on the around launch date for malaysia? In the mean time I'm quite tempted to get the optima K5.. Which is in my budget.. It has the looks.. So frustrated right now.. >,~!

My wife booked the beetle already.. So I may want to go volks as well.. But I can't search any way on the web for any info on the golf mk7 launch date in malaysia.. rclxub.gif
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I think earliest also next year. Officially it will be launched in November of this year in Europe. After that, they will usually launch the new car in Singapore first before bringing it to Malaysia. No dates but if I were to make an educated guess then it'll probably be in the 3rd quarter of next year like the new Beetle. If you can wait, then go for it. If you can't then choose something else.
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post Sep 28 2012, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(blugear @ Sep 28 2012, 07:29 AM)
I feel is better to get a car that don't use petrol. Electrical engine will have less maintenance and you don't spend a penny on fuel. Can't wait for the electric Golf to come to Msia.. I know people say that electric cars not practical for long distance driving, but I believe they will over come that in the future. Maybe use kinetic power or movement to charge the battery while driving. Lets wait and see.. biggrin.gif
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It is the future, the problem comes with the energy source. There's a technology hurdle to overcome in order to develop better batteries and remove the reliance of petrol/diesel.

The good news is VW will start implementing the newly developed electric turbocharger from Audi in their new cars soon. It's supposed to solve the problem of turbo lag so you won't need twin charging engines anymore and it also comes with cylinder deactivation technology for even better FC along with all the complementing fuel saving technologies.
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post Oct 2 2012, 12:45 PM

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Passat Sport now officially sold by VW.

In addition to the standard features found on the Passat, the extra stuff you now get are:

• 8Jx18'' Kansas alloy wheels framed by 235/40 R18
• 12-way electrically adjustable front seats with memory function
• Electric tilt and slide sunroof
• Electrically foldable side mirrors with auto-dimming function on driver's side
• Sports suspension

RM189,888.00 excluding insurance.

That's a cool 25k extra at least including insurance over the "CKD" unit. I kind of feel sorry for those people who paid for the earlier batches of CBU versions though sad.gif
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post Oct 2 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 2 2012, 01:13 PM)
So with insurance the Passat Sport would cost RM 197K? Is this CBU?

More money to add to this eh:

http://paultan.org/2012/10/02/najib-car-ex...rm30-2-billion/
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CBU

Cars are indeed too damn overpriced in Malaysia.
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post Oct 2 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Oct 2 2012, 03:20 PM)
Passat SPort good car? Is it worth to change golf to passat? Golf boot is too small, can't even put my golf set sad.gif.
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If there's one thing that's damn impressive about the Passat, it's definitely the boot space, 565L of it in fact. Just 5L short of the 570L on a BMW X6. Is it a good car? That depends on what your definition of good is... it certainly is good enough although far from perfect.
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post Oct 3 2012, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 3 2012, 07:48 AM)
Im not really sure about the accuracy of those boot space figures. I just found out that on the brochures, the Forte supposedly has a bigger boot than the K5 but in reality the K5 boot is really huge. I even find it bigger than the Passat. The Passat boot is deeper but the K5 is wider. Not sure if you feel the same? Have u seen the K5 boot?  hmm.gif
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The Passat boot is both deep and wide and square. Particularly deep in fact.

I've seen the K5 boot, it's wide but not as square nor as deep.

The only way to know how it compares is unless we do some real world load test

But on paper, it's 565L vs 435L of boot space. The Passat definitely has a huge upper hand here in this respect
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post Oct 11 2012, 07:54 AM

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Does anyone here have any idea how much it will cost to remap the ECU via ABT (stage 1)? The car in question is an Audi Q5, has the same engine as the Golf GTI I think.
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post Oct 11 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Oct 11 2012, 06:22 PM)
There is always room to improve for any business .... in the case of this VW service centre, that room is HUGE

http://www.kensomuse.com/veemer-motors-ser...branding-of-vw/
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Wow, that's quite poor service. And I often wondered how the OKR branch was able to handle the servicing considering how small it looked on the outside, I guess you just confirmed it for me. It really can't handle the servicing at all.
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Oct 13 2012, 10:17 PM)
The CKD passat 1.8 comes with the 7 speed or 6 speed DSG?
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7 speed DSG
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(pjkl @ Oct 16 2012, 10:27 AM)
Hi, experience to share.
Owning a car is same like owning a software, Total Cost of Ownership, included time.
Yes, recalled, but they are responsible that is important. Reliability is not just 1 person to say but build on long time. For me, rather take a old tech, but reliable and have more time with family and friends rather take a high tech with problem and need to spend time to find spare parts and go to SC waste valuable time, $ and effort. More high tech tend to have more problem and more speed will let you more high chance of speeding and get AES summon and take your life to higher risk.

Car is just a transport and time with family is more important.
Wife and car cannot compare, one is human and another is vehicle (no life). It is just sharing, no offence to anyone. Choice is still at your hand.
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Hello, even the best laid plans can go astray, just buy what you like.

My suggestion for you if you don't want hassle then don't buy car and just hire a personal taxi driver to ferry you around. I've got friends who do that. No need to waste time going SC, no need to worry about maintenance, no need to worry about AES, no need to worry about installments and at the end of the day still cheaper than owning a car.

It's just sharing, no offence to you. Choice is still in your hand too wink.gif
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post Feb 17 2013, 10:01 AM

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Looking good. Hopefully the DSG issues has been resolved with this latest generation of Golf.

The DRL lights look great. It's the new one stripe style which is the in thing now.
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post Mar 4 2013, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 4 2013, 02:24 PM)
Are you ready for the truth?
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
The UK Reliability index takes into account all factors of a repair, the cost of the parts and the frequency of failures - The Average of all cars is 100 which means that if the figure for the car you are looking at has a higher than average index (118) it indicates that that car is less reliable than the average, if however there is a lower than average index (60) the reliability is better.
Rank/ Make and Model/ Reliability Index
1. Daihatsu 26.00
2. Suzuki 39.00
3. Honda 40.00
4. Chevrolet 69.00
5. Toyota 69.00
6. Hyundai 75.00
7. Lexus 82.00
8. Mazda 88.00
9. Ford 90.00
10. SKODA 91.00
11. Mitsubishi 94.00
12. Subaru 95.00
13. Citroen 98.00
14. Nissan 98.00
15. Kia 99.00
16. Peugeot 99.00
17. Fiat 100.00
18. Daewoo 103.00
19. Smart 119.00
20. Seat 122.00
21. Vauxhall 123.00
22. SsangYong 134.00
23. Volkswagen 134.00
24. Renault 138.00
25. Mini 141.00
26. ROVER 152.00
27. Saab 161.00
28. Volvo 162.00
29. BMW 170.00
30. MG 184.00
31. Jaguar 184.00
32. Mercedes-Benz 213.00
33. Audi 225.00
34. Chrysler 227.00
35. Jeep 242.00
36. Alfa Romeo 248.00
37. Porsche 299.00
38. LANDROVER

Japs as expected clinched 6 spots in top 10 while American 1 and a half spots as Korean Hyundai in Top 10 with Chevvy (half Korean/half Amercian?)

French Citroen & Peugeot doing better than Germans ?!(except Renault, ranked 24th, below VW, ranked 23rd) why VW 23rd while SKoda is place 10th
?! wtf?
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In my opinion, people who look at VW won't find Peugeots appealing at all. Reliability may be an issue, but it's probably not an issue that will be at the top of a VW buyer's list.


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post Mar 5 2013, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 09:21 AM)
Dated you say, how about this Jan 2013 news?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/cons...engine-failures
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It doesn't matter how recent or old this news is. Seeing by the response you get in the other threads, I don't think people really care at all.

The reliability index is most useful for the prospective buyer who is looking for a new car. But how useful it is also depends on the priorities of the buyer.

Once you are already an owner of any particular marque, this list is about as useful as waste paper you throw into the garbage bin. You would only be concerned when problems arise and how fast you can get your problem resolved.

The other good thing about the index is for owners to use it and justify their purchase. Hence the feel good factor.

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So VW is at no.23 and Skoda is no.10. As a VW owner, the only feeling I have is indifference. My gut tells me many of the other owners here probably feels the same way too, lol!

BMW is no.29. Why don't you post the same article in the BMW owners thread and see what they think in regards to BMW's placing. Perhaps you might get a better response there.

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post Mar 5 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 11:17 AM)
Yikes, u again? you have oredi said your piece, and your point is taken, but i am interested in how Other owners or soon to be buyer or fans think.

I care to know more about VW because like I said before (to u), I am considering buying one SUV later, VW Tiguan or even Ford Kuga (SINCE PUG 4008 OR Citroen C4 Aircross may not even have the chance in the distant SOON future of seeing malaysian sunny sun light whole year round).

If you really want to know, I don't really care about other marque (B freaking-M-my-W-arse,), I thank for your suggestion but it serve me no purpose.

So once and for all, TQ for your insights. 

For Other Hononary Active Members of VW threads, please do share with me , this last bugging item to me, how reliable is VW cars? Don't compare with Japs. But conti to conti or Koreans if you enjoy throwing it into the mix.
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Get your answers here

http://www.facebook.com/groups/Vwclubmalaysia/

or

http://www.vwclubmalaysia.net/

We are more active there.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 11:39 AM)
K, roger that  rclxms.gif
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Btw, if you are indeed considering the VW Tiguan, I don't see why you wouldn't consider the BMW X1 sDrive 20i. Both cars are priced really close to each other.

Tiguan: RM 238,122
X1 sDrive 20i: RM 238,800

To my knowledge, the X1 sDrive is now using the award winning BMW 2.0 Turbocharged engine and on paper the X1 looks like it is a slightly more spacious car compared to the Tiguan.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 11:54 AM)
Strictly No BMW for us, both me and my Mrs are scared of the prospect of owning one, my close fren/colleague who used to drive one bimmer had for the past 1 year or so oozing out cash in 2 monthly interval getting the car fixed and finally given up to exchange for good old japs. It is not the money per se, but the inconvenience /time/emotion.
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I assume he bought a used car?

Warranty would cover it if it's a new car although the time/emotion would surely be a huge drain.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2013, 02:10 PM)
By that statement, if I cannot refer Warranty Direct, I cannot trust JD Power, I cannot trust IHIS, I cannot trust all th NCAPS, and now i cannot trust owner of of the cars.

Who should I trust, a reluctant educator? reviews of car mag, gut feel, what?
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There are lots of VW owners who are upset about the DSG failures. Load up VW FB Malaysia and you can find a bunch of negative comments as well, but yet there are also many others out there who never encounter such problems and are happy with their cars. At the same time, there are also people who had problems but still happy with their cars, lol!

Just like Peugeot here is reputed to have really terrible service centers. 2 of my friends practically swear off Peugeot cars (formerly 407 and 308THP-pre facelift owners). The 3rd friend of mine whom just bought a 3008 last year encountered battery failure after 6 months of ownership. Despite the slew of negative feedback about the Glenmarie SC, they resolved his problem very quickly, they even gave him a discount voucher as well, which made him damn happy. There's both good and bad, what does your personal experience tell you?

Then there's the Koreans. I wasn't really impressed when I went to their showroom/service center in Glenmarie. The sales team were nowhere to be seen when I visited them last year. The SC is small too when compared against Toyota Subang service center or VW Glenmarie FA Wagen SC. But feedback seem to be positive so far and the community seems robust.

So zenix gave the best direct answer already. Are the surveys even applicable here? Kcng also gave you an answer, although not really direct - different owners will have different experiences, so take it for what you will and decide from there.

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Are there any board users here that switched from Peugeot to VW or vice versa?

Btw, Audi service really sucks b@lls. Had to wait 3 weeks just to get a Q5 engine oil leak fixed, then when get to the stupid SC, it was another 1 hour wait to get served. The car actually stayed in the SC for 2 days before they released it. Not even a courtesy car to boot tongue.gif Beautiful cars, awful service level tongue.gif

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