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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V123, Bullish market

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post Jul 19 2012, 03:48 AM

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everyone talked about their portfolio's ALL TIME HIGH! ....bit scary, maybe time to..... tongue.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:40 AM

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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Jul 19 2012, 03:51 AM)
wah
pls la, yok gor
dun wake us up
let us continue the party  tongue.gif
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just read that party may reach 1670 then only hit rock. alex also said maybe still have some weeks to party before GE hits if it really comes. biggrin.gif
well myself also bought some stocks lately, me also worry a bit. even reits can fall one. sweat.gif tongue.gif
but it's good to reach new high follows by another new high, so that later GE excuse to pull back, still got much room there. best hit 1700 then pull back to 1600, then my portfolio ends up still about the same as today's one. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Jul 19 2012, 04:08 PM)
Yok gor, AH SAI GOR come liao ! tongue.gif
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sooner or later only, must up one, this sai. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:24 PM

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now is our turn to be the ONLY RED in Asia/Euro all together market as of right now. tongue.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:39 PM

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Although our CI is all time high, but actually many stocks are still not yet recover to their 2010 high. In fact, many are still at 20-30% lower. hmm.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 19 2012, 04:29 PM)
The market needs correction, even reit being chased upon until pathetic yield.
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Pavreit is the most ridiculous one. Now almost reaching 4% category. The pavilion Extension was plan to fully completed by 2015 3Q, USJ Mall still under construction, F88 yield still too low to be injected in. Now the only upward side is that new Fashion Street section that overtake Tang. Could that be a big profit jump? I bet not that big. Next year 75% rental renewal, probably fees upward 5-10%. That together still....yield cannot be more than 5% at current price. hmm.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(freddie @ Jul 19 2012, 04:56 PM)
hehe... ok lah. better than +10 or -10.

ci better stays flat for the next few days and let 2nd/3rd liners catch up.
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I like++ rclxms.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jul 19 2012, 06:05 PM)
Have you try to do swtiching to Bond Fund?  smile.gif
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All the good performance bond funds(>6% yield) are closed (PB Islamic Bond Fund, Public Islamic Bond Fund). Left with us the weak performance(<4%) new bond funds(PB Bond Fund, PB/Public Sukuk bond fund). yawn.gif


Added on July 19, 2012, 6:19 pm
QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 19 2012, 05:55 PM)
sweat.gif Buy PBBank share better than buy it fund, PBBank this year +9.12%

PEF, the KLSE's blue chip fund only +3.27%
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Don't forget that figure already inclusive of the deduction of dunno how many % for their fund management fees. (KLCI blue chip fund also need to manage?? Smallcap fund need lah. doh.gif )

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post Jul 19 2012, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jul 19 2012, 06:57 PM)
Yay! All the REITs are announcing results this week and next week. smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 06:14 AM

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I think it's VERY HARD for DRB to sell entire proton to VW. I expect lots of lots of noise would be raised by those BN people (our dear Dr. Mahathir for one). cool2.gif
In fact, I think it may not be a good news for DRB. I am seeing Proton should benefit DRB more if it does JV with VW instead of sold to VW. Proton has valuable assets, to effectively utilize those assets worth much much more than selling them in one shot. However, on the other hand, this one off selling may calm the nervous market regarding DRB's fixing Proton story that deepen its debt and spending its cash. hmm.gif
Anyhow, I wish this can become a catalyst for DRB share price re-rating. It's so cheap right now! How can it be so cheap? It should be a blue chip status stock lah! Should up 100% lah! yawn.gif


Added on July 20, 2012, 6:27 am
QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 19 2012, 08:20 PM)
actually that 5.5% sales charges is for cash investment. but if you invest from epf, the sales charges is only about 3%. At the moment, all my unit trust investment fund is from EPF only.
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Can tell us more about using EPF money to buy unit trust? Thank you very much!! notworthy.gif

1. You said only 3% instead of 5.5% on equity funds. What about Bond funds? Also less then 0.25%?
2. Is there a choice for us to choose from investing in one shot or in period (certain amount monthly etc).
3. The outcome of the investment will be written in our annual EPF statement? Will it be written separately in that statement? And we'll receive a separate statement from the IB (ie public mutual) too?
4. We can terminate the investment anytime we like or there's certain restriction? Meaning, sell the fund and all money goes back into EPF account.
5. Can we select the "dividend payout" option on the unit trust? Or must be "re-invest"?

Anyone who knows the answer also can answer. Thank you very much! notworthy.gif

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post Jul 21 2012, 04:58 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 20 2012, 11:54 AM)
Off topic  biggrin.gif
1. Sales charge for conservative fund like bond is lower, ya think is 0.25%
2. You can only invest certain amount from your EPF account 1. Got formula to calculate that.
3. After you invest from EPF account 1, you will be a deduction from your EPF statement.
4. Yes, after you sell, the money will go back to EPF account.
5. Yes, you can choose either one. You can even do all these yourself online (including switching fund) after you registered do login to publicmutualonline.

For more info you can ask the expert in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2007814/+2420
Recommended agent to look for - wongmunkeong  smile.gif
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Thank you very much for this OT. notworthy.gif tongue.gif
And for question no.5, the dividend cheque will be paid to us in cash or the dividend also go straight back into EPF account? Just want to make sure. laugh.gif notworthy.gif


Added on July 21, 2012, 5:08 am
QUOTE(cks @ Jul 20 2012, 06:01 PM)
Very cool! Attack China Islamic banking!! icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 22 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 22 2012, 08:25 PM)
i believe it goes back to EPF account  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thank you very much! notworthy.gif
So I guess we can't "steal chicken" there. laugh.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 05:05 PM

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4 greens the rest mostly red. tongue.gif
today shot some Hektar. mopiko tak ada. biggrin.gif


Added on July 23, 2012, 5:07 pmDo you think Sungai Wang's crowd getting less recently? I got this feeling. I think they should turn the 6th floor into "entertainment street" with cinemas, bowling, ktv, bars etc. Since now the 6th floor is kind of dead. hmm.gif
However, CMMT's income still strong. 1H net profit increased 56%. Gurney Penang and East Coast Mall got some potential. rclxms.gif

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post Jul 23 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Jul 23 2012, 05:08 PM)
CMMT on rampage again today.  doh.gif
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1.70 coming...even 1.75 possible.... tongue.gif

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post Jul 23 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Jul 23 2012, 05:13 PM)
I missed the recent 1.52 boat.  rclxub.gif
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I shot 3 times there on its recent swinging. tongue.gif
This reit stock very volatile, you may have chance for eat there soon. even maybe tomorrow if US drop 5% and Euro closed down 5% then tomorrow entire world panic sell(for smart traders that's profit taking)? tongue.gif

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post Jul 23 2012, 09:47 PM

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CIMB's investors roadshow outcome: HK investors mix, SG investors underweight, Malaysia investors overweight(rushing in buying!) tongue.gif
Where are you at then? Me is accumulating more on defensive/dividend stocks but still pretty much holds current holding risk stocks(construction etc) for now. cool2.gif




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post Jul 24 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 23 2012, 10:33 PM)
Never take in the revaluation capital gain on property.
Market also doesn't react to the profit rise because of property revaluation.
Market will respond to its operation profit improvement only.

Yes, CMMT operation income is pretty strong,

From 40 million to 48 million, but not a 56% gain.
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Thanks for pointing that out. notworthy.gif


Added on July 24, 2012, 1:37 am
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 23 2012, 11:08 PM)
What's the earnings per share if minus out the 'revaluation profits'?
Comparing Jan-Jul 2012 dividends vs Jan-Jul 2011, which paid more in dividends?
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Thanks for pointing that out. Now I just ignore the earnings and just look at the dividend. tongue.gif
Qtr 2.11(sen) vs 2(sen), up 5.5%
YTD 4.2 vs 3.9, up 7.69%.
gearing ratio 28%, slightly higher than half of allowed 50%.
cost of debt avg 4.7% while avg term of maturity is 4.3 years. 69% fixed rate and 31% floating.

not "cash rich" but seems moderate loh. biggrin.gif
from your past posts, i know you are definitely not a "reit guy". It's cool, really. As long as we all making money. laugh.gif

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post Jul 24 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 24 2012, 11:27 AM)
My "A" Stock all time high rclxms.gif

Axreit 2.90
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post Jul 24 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 24 2012, 11:58 AM)
Reason why I asked you for the comparison of dividends payout is that it has been suggested that we need to make sure that the reits mananger is doing their job well and making sure the shareholder gets more dividends each year.

Yes, I read before the purchase of properties by Axreit. With the funding done by placements of new shares, the share base would increase by 20%, which would be a dilution in future earnings.
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Exactly. Axreit has been aggressively expanding their portfolio since listed. The income is also increasing. Since they usually did private placement to gather funds for expansion, so the DPU may not see that much of increment (but still have increment). However, on the other hand, the loans that they took will be expired in few years time one after another (common for reits), so the income from newly injected properties will be much into the DPU since no need to pay debt interest anymore. Besides, Axreit has very good record of injecting properties with high yield (above 7% usually), so there will still be some profit left even after paying for the debt interest. The most important part of new injection is the yield (long term, of course). hmm.gif

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QUOTE(htt @ Jul 24 2012, 04:22 PM)
It is very hard to call this as correction...  flex.gif
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Past few days US and Euro more feel like it, some dropped 5-6% one. Our CI is the MOST DEFENSIVE MARKET ON EARTH, so, we can't feel much. biggrin.gif


Added on July 24, 2012, 4:28 pm
QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 24 2012, 04:25 PM)
hmm.gif 1 day red red only, far away from "correction"................

1 month red than is correction
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my low buy queue all tak jadi. no fish in the net for today. biggrin.gif

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