it affects monks more than barb.

barb got WotB for insane dmg/defensive boost. life leeching/return skills are % based that scales, and they got frenzy to compensate on any weapon slow issue, or revenge that just spam activates if you're mobbed.
monk's "1-2-3" is slower as you atk slower, and usually, its the 3rd hit that's crucial for monks. slower swings, lesser 3rd hits coming out

Dafug? I was till hanging at Ghom!

Somebody carry you over?

* lone hermit didn't get any help 

Wah gearing monk is very cheap

50k to buy a full set of gears, end up with 14k dps, 700AR and 35k HP

That's the funny thing. To get starter gears for Inferno Act 1 and 2, cheap until kenot belip.

After that suddenly have to pay 5-20m per upgrade.

id beg to differ, dex gear/gems are way more expensive for monk because we share some of our gear with DH too

dont believe? check out emerald gems vs rubies. granted, barbs use emeralds on their weapons too for crit, but the rest of it, you get the idea

inna glory (pants)
sage gloves (lol forgot name)

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Added on July 26, 2012, 10:19 am

hahahaha jib kor.

well, i just received 2 platinum cards from CIMB yesterday. so... i can PRETEND to be a rich person la.
*further/heavy emphasis on PRETEND

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Added on July 26, 2012, 10:26 am

you are correct in this regards on your experience.
simple: gear's are devaluing for the lower level gears (anything not ilevel 63, any weapons not over 1k dps etc)

your monk started AFTER your barbarian, hence you are enjoying the benefit of having cheaper gear as opposed to your barbarian.

another thing is your monk is fresh, so you're gearing up with cheap gear while your barb is (assuming) already decently geared, so any upgrades over what you have on your barb currently, is going to easily cost millions.

you dont seem to get the idea of depreciation.

i will use pc then. the same intel i5 2 years ago compared to today's price.

pricing of my PC (click my signature's site profile if you're too lazy, ill just say that i spent 5 digits ringgit on my pc) 5 years ago compared to the items TODAY that has the same, if not BETTER performance.

any one got good fist for sales?

prefer range dps between 800 - 900
stats consider:
- dex > 150 +-
- Vit > 150 +-
- LOH
- Socket

OR

- dex >  150+-
- CD
- Socket

---- can this stats get in the price of 10mil Gold ?? --

yupz.. i do look in to that ... my one of my current weapon 7xx dps.. but range is 3xx - 820 .. 

i got hard time to find a replacement for my others fist..

dps 717
range 3xx - 720
2xx dex
2xx vit
2xx LOH
with socket

totally cant find a weapon can replace this...

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Added on July 26, 2012, 11:15 am

oh mai.. !!! .... lucky u got your 9xx super ultra awsm fist for 20mil ..     

ALeUNe would beg to differ

jokes aside, no, armor and res work hand in hand. (they are multiplicative damage reduction) hence the 10:1 ratio. armor is not better than res, nor res is better than armor. if you can get it just get it, the 10:1 ratio isnt required, just a guideline to get better "mileage" out of your gearing process.

the thing is, barb DOES HAVE healing skills. albeit not in the form of a straight and direct heal (but having long cooldown) BoH or runed serenity (if you talk about transcendence passive and/or MoH spamming, its no different than barb's)

and no monk cant teleport towards anywhere, they need to be on a target and if say the guy is molten or plague, it has NO DIFFERENCE as you're still standing in it (worse if molten lol)

TBH, you can see the same trend in the monk thread too (earlier pages, or v1) where so many people having similar stats and cant finish act 3/4. YOUR MONK got carried (again, assumption, feel free to correct me if it isn't so). so you CANNOT directly compare to your exp as your barb, or other monk in this thread or barb in the barbarian thread.

Wow, 1000K armor. Should be able to faceroll D3 with a million armor. I'm pretty sure the damage reduction will even heal you back with that amount 

Btw, I thought Barb have that skill that returns 8% life? And they use LoH / Lifesteal too. Their lifesteal is better because of their mighty belt. Plus monk usually only use Blazing Wrath for heal, which heals a static 7k hp every 15 sec. Doubt we're healing better than barb with 8% from skill and up to 9% from lifesteal.

whats the different if you're teleporting into plague and molten fire trail? or worse arcane lasers in the way going through your target and you're teleporting TO that target
you're still going to be a corpse no different than your barb.

with deadly reach i can at least do better positioning, hit through walls and shit. which i find it WAY better until i get better gears to use FoT

other barbs (like my friends) farm act 3 (who farms act 4? lol) and clear inferno diablo with 20-40k dps, and armor/AR around what you mentioned, if they can do it, you cant, what does that say? if other monks are facing issues with that stats while you're not, what does that say then?

barbarians are clearly the most gear dependent class in this game, there is no denying that. and monk DOES have an edge over barb when both are in "non-kickass" gear. however in BOTH tanking AND DPS, once both gears up, barb WILL out perform the monk no matter what because of how barb scales better with gear.

i dont even want to begin with dps because of how frenzy/revenge/WoTB works. lets just go with tanking. my friend can EASILY facetank most elites with similar/lesser stats (resist, i got more because i can double stack with OwE, another misconception on stacking resist being cheaper on monk. true, but its a PITA to stack armor on monk compared to barb hence it somewhat evens out)

reason being i have to WAIT on my cooldowns for heals, else i rely on LoH (which id try not to hence i dont gear up for LoH specifically) which isnt enough for most face tanking situations; while my barb friends just use his marathon, revenge, ignore pain that ALL HEALS him, CONSISTENTLY. the biggest difference to the barb/monk healing is barbs can do it on COMMAND AND WITH CONSISTENCY while we have to rely on shitty cooldowns. gears CANNOT SCALE with cooldowns and static heal, while they CAN with barb's % based healing.

and AGAIN like i said, your perception of barb gear being expensive, is due to your monk gear being depreciated. hence cheaper gear. a 800 dps weapon today is almost worthless compared to a 800 dps weapon on May 15.

Ehhh... I think that's because you never bothered with the Zrave guides I linked, so you kept making the same gearing boo-boo on your barb (looking for all desired stats in every piece)

my friend build a ww barb with just 3mil and he can faceroll act 2 and survivable in act3

so you're going to claim a class being better than the other because of a mistake you committed? how could you :/

Yeah that's the thing... after you finished your 1st barb build, your gearing knowledge increased a lot.

So when you started on your monk only recently, you already know what to do, can max out budget cantik cantik

you already said monk and dh uses dex which means i believed that there are more demand for dex items out there compared to str item which only useful to barbs

and also i believed the supply will always be there however the demand for dex items are so much higher than str items which leads to you know what.

IINM, monk gears will only clash with DH when you start building DPS. DH will never look for double resist items 

I think INT gear is the cheapest, since one of the INT classes (WD) is very unpopular. I haven't upgraded my WD since spending close to 3m to clear Inferno, and now his gears are worth less than 200k total lmao.