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 I want to buy a decent acoustic guitar, Martin or taylor?

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ar_zaem
post Jul 27 2012, 10:44 PM

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i'll vote for taylor... quite decent sound you'll get from it.. but for martin, never tried it once...
Lucidus
post Jul 27 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Jul 27 2012, 02:49 PM)
actually the Action part, you really need to find one with just within your acceptable range.. I bought a Fender acoustic previously and the action quite high, but i told myself maybe the technician could fix it,

but ,

only to a certain extend, the action is still high, but is now in my acceptable range, and i change to a lighter gauge strings.. still, i prefer lower action..  haha but no regret la, i pretty much will still pick Fender cuz i'm a sucker for it. T.T
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It's the setup.

String action depends on;

1. Saddle height

2. Nut height

3. Bridge height

4. Truss rod allignment
intel_centrino
post Jul 28 2012, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 27 2012, 11:19 PM)
It's the setup.

String action depends on;

1. Saddle height

2. Nut height

3. Bridge height

4. Truss rod allignment
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yea bro, string action depends on all but sometimes
is like u take a waja n convert to evo 7, can convert but surely something is lacking..and there is a limitation. Same goes to the action of a guitar, some ppl buy rm500 guitar and they expect the action can be modified n adjusted as low n no buzzy as a rm6k martin guitar. Just my 2cent opinion
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post Jul 28 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Jul 28 2012, 09:17 AM)
yea bro, string action depends on all but sometimes
is like u take a waja n convert to evo 7, can convert but surely something is lacking..and there is a limitation. Same goes to the action of a guitar, some ppl buy rm500 guitar and they expect the action can be modified n adjusted as low n no buzzy as a rm6k martin guitar. Just my 2cent opinion
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It can be done, like how I've done to my cheapo acoustic I've bought for RM200.

The action can be adjusted with many variables, is not just on the brand/materials/workmanship.

Cheaper guitars = massly produced = lack QC

Hence more uneven frets, higher saddle n nut, etc etc.

The only drawback is even with complete setup, still have to adjust truss rod more regularly than better built guitars with better material.
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post Jul 29 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 28 2012, 09:22 AM)
It can be done, like how I've done to my cheapo acoustic I've bought for RM200.

The action can be adjusted with many variables, is not just on the brand/materials/workmanship.

Cheaper guitars = massly produced = lack QC

Hence more uneven frets, higher saddle n nut, etc etc.

The only drawback is even with complete setup, still have to adjust truss rod more regularly than better built guitars with better material.
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so impossible u take ur rm200 guitar go n do refret? sometimes fret wire problem? if do refret n recrown...at least also rm500-rm600?
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post Jul 29 2012, 10:29 AM

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I've the taylor 114ce for normal song writing and playing at home.
if possible, look for Ayers or Taylor 300 series and above.
Brands something is too overrated. wink.gif
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Jul 29 2012, 08:45 AM)
so impossible u take ur rm200 guitar go n do refret? sometimes fret wire problem? if do refret n recrown...at least also rm500-rm600?
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I did not send it anywhere.
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QUOTE(Bosstoyou @ Jul 29 2012, 10:29 AM)
I've the taylor 114ce for normal song writing and playing at home.
if possible, look for Ayers or Taylor 300 series and above.
Brands something is too overrated. wink.gif
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Man you say brand is something too overrated but then you ask people to go for Taylor's 300 series and above doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 27 2012, 11:19 PM)
It's the setup.

String action depends on;

1. Saddle height

2. Nut height

3. Bridge height

4. Truss rod allignment
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I brought to TGS for that technician to help me reduce the action, but they say is the best they can do before the guitar hums.. so i guess there's a limit?
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Jul 30 2012, 05:13 PM)
I brought to TGS for that technician to help me reduce the action, but they say is the best they can do before the guitar hums.. so i guess there's a limit?
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Hums? You mean buzz? There's a limit, and the limit depends on your playing style / how hard you pluck / strum.
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post Jul 30 2012, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 30 2012, 05:21 PM)
Hums? You mean buzz? There's a limit, and the limit depends on your playing style / how hard you pluck / strum.
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ya i think he meant cannot be lowered anymore.. like the max you can lowered on a guitar?
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Jul 30 2012, 07:00 PM)
ya i think he meant cannot be lowered anymore.. like the max you can lowered on a guitar?
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to me, i always feel there is a limit..but some ppl i know tell me before that once setting surely can done
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post Jul 31 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Jul 30 2012, 10:50 PM)
to me, i always feel there is a limit..but some ppl i know tell me before that once setting surely  can done
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ya maybe he meant some decent guitar after setup can have even better feel, but some below average guitar can't do much to it gua? my one is the solid top version of fender. dunno which series dy.. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Jul 31 2012, 05:22 PM)
ya maybe he meant some decent guitar after setup can have even better feel, but some below average guitar can't do much to it gua? my one is the solid top version of fender. dunno which series dy.. biggrin.gif
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if decent guitar then should not be a problem, and even if need modification of cutting woods n all, its worth it...but to those below rm1k..not worth it..the modification will cause easily 50% at least of the guitar value
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post Aug 1 2012, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Aug 1 2012, 10:27 AM)
if decent guitar then should not be a problem, and even if need modification of cutting woods n all, its worth it...but to those below rm1k..not worth it..the modification will cause easily 50% at least of the guitar value
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haha my guitar cost 1.2k.. but i seriously think if i get the takamine same price as this , just without the plug-ins will sound better and playability is better. =P cool.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 1 2012, 12:59 PM)
haha my guitar cost 1.2k.. but i seriously think if i get the takamine same price as this , just without the plug-ins will sound better and playability is better. =P cool.gif
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hahhaa, depending on the models la...to me, if i got 1.2k, i'm go for FARIDA D12 or maybe some CORT guitar...lower end brands i would go for with low budget

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post Aug 2 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Aug 1 2012, 06:41 PM)
hahhaa, depending on the models la...to me, if i got 1.2k, i'm go for FARIDA D12 or maybe some CORT guitar...lower end brands i would go for with low budget
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Mine is Fender 120 something solid top with the fishman eq. i know that's not a good acoustic but cuz i dig Fender, i bought it.. haha laugh.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 2 2012, 10:02 AM)
Mine is Fender 120 something solid top with the fishman eq. i know that's not a good acoustic but cuz i dig Fender, i bought it.. haha  laugh.gif
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not bad la for its price..quite reasonable..anyway its preferences..maybe i won't like it but u like it...so overall its a fine guitar for sure
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post Aug 2 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Aug 2 2012, 12:04 PM)
not bad la for its price..quite reasonable..anyway its preferences..maybe i won't like it but u like it...so overall its a fine guitar for sure
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After changing the original strings to lighter guage strings, the playability has improved termendously. =D
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post Aug 2 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 2 2012, 02:30 PM)
After changing the original strings to lighter guage strings, the playability has improved termendously. =D
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What gauge did you use? biggrin.gif

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