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 I want to buy a decent acoustic guitar, Martin or taylor?

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intel_centrino
post Jul 11 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Jul 11 2012, 10:58 PM)
Uh Taylor guitars do not use laminated tops. They're all solid tops as far as I can remember. The 114ce should have a solid spruce top with laminated sides.

If you want that extra bass in your strumming, then Martins are the way to go.
Taylors are traditionally known for their bright, fingerpicked sound.

That being said, I own an OM-1 (Solid top, solid sapele sides/back) and my god the mids are crazy clear. Absolutely a match for the Taylors.
I got it for around RM2000 brand new on eBay. Best deal I've done in my life.  thumbup.gif
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thats super cheap bro, very good deal

and to ts, if u don't mind a slightly lower resale value , u can try MATON or FARIDA. These both are good acoustic brand as well just that its not really popular in Malaysia and many ppl dunno bout these brand. I tried Farida D62E before. One of the best acoustic i ever tested compared to Taylor 214CE. I tested only these 2 high end guitar myself and i loves the neck feel on the FARIDA and the warm tone rather than Taylor bright tone (could be string differences), if u r worried bout resale value then u better get TAYLOR

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post Jul 12 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Jul 11 2012, 11:50 PM)
I've heard rave reviews for Farida guitars, but i'm still not buying them xP

Matons are crazy good guitars, too bad they're damn expensive, even in Australia. I stay less than 20km from their factory but their prices are still hiked up to match the Martins and Taylors.  vmad.gif
I REALLY REALLY like the Maton EM325C, but it's too expensive for its specs IMO.
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MATONs are not really well known in Malaysia, ppl scare to buy MATONs here. In Malaysia, preferable brand are more towards Taylor. Many church players that i know said TAYLOR is the best, They never heard of MARTIN also. Even in forum, 2nd Taylor is easier for sales due to the famous brand.
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post Jul 12 2012, 10:14 AM

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basically, the whole part of the guitar determine the tone for it. Normally ppl will said Mahogany sounds warm, Maple sounds bright
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:21 AM

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good research, it shows that u really know what u wan already, to me, its easy to find a bright full sounding guitar but its never easy to find a warm but not muddy sounding guitar
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post Jul 18 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(noonies_naruto @ Jul 18 2012, 10:38 PM)
id say, Taylor is a lot more high-end than martin.

anyway, strings play important role too.

so not much diff in terms of sound from either two guitars,

u shud use Elixir strings.
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bro, i second ur statement that taylor is a lot more high-end than martin, they both are around the same level but taylor is more widely sponsored or used by celebrity. And there are very big diff in terms of sound from that both guitar. I've been hearing bad review from a lot of ppl regarding the tone sucXing from the elixir...heheehe
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:30 AM

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i feel alright with elixir strings actually in terms of tone, i can't really differentiate that some ppl said that the tone suxking strings n all. All i can feel is that the coating of the elixier is a little sticky kind of feel or maybe feel like a thick layer of coat is on the string which i find it uncomfortable to me
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(hmc @ Jul 23 2012, 09:52 PM)
if you guys are still shopping and trying out acoustics which are value for your money, do check out Seagull S6, which is the upper end of Art & Lutherie; Simon & Patrick. They have solid tops and is bangs for your bucks. A decent sounding model is less than 2K.

Seagull will blow Martin and Taylor modesl in the same price range. Check it out and let your ears be the judge!  You'll be surprised!

Last but not least -
1.  Guitar in a showroom always sound better than in the house
2.  No point to test drive a guitar with deteriorated strings
3.  No one commented on the neck comfort?
4.  No one commented on the intonation of the guitar tested?
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i personally feel seagull guitar a very price for its spec and tone that i've tested. so to me its not a bangs for my bucks..hahaha

based on ur opinion
1. Why izit guitar in a showroom always sound better? guitars in showroom always scratch badly i saw and its place on fully aircond area. The guitar should sound bad instead of good mah?
2. Sometimes no choice, sometimes only that particular shop have that particular model
3. Neck comfort? hard to tell over the net since its preferences
4. Intonation? normally new guitar plus its acoustic not electric..most likely the intonation are quite alright.
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post Jul 28 2012, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 27 2012, 11:19 PM)
It's the setup.

String action depends on;

1. Saddle height

2. Nut height

3. Bridge height

4. Truss rod allignment
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yea bro, string action depends on all but sometimes
is like u take a waja n convert to evo 7, can convert but surely something is lacking..and there is a limitation. Same goes to the action of a guitar, some ppl buy rm500 guitar and they expect the action can be modified n adjusted as low n no buzzy as a rm6k martin guitar. Just my 2cent opinion
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post Jul 29 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 28 2012, 09:22 AM)
It can be done, like how I've done to my cheapo acoustic I've bought for RM200.

The action can be adjusted with many variables, is not just on the brand/materials/workmanship.

Cheaper guitars = massly produced = lack QC

Hence more uneven frets, higher saddle n nut, etc etc.

The only drawback is even with complete setup, still have to adjust truss rod more regularly than better built guitars with better material.
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so impossible u take ur rm200 guitar go n do refret? sometimes fret wire problem? if do refret n recrown...at least also rm500-rm600?
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Jul 30 2012, 07:00 PM)
ya i think he meant cannot be lowered anymore.. like the max you can lowered on a guitar?
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to me, i always feel there is a limit..but some ppl i know tell me before that once setting surely can done
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post Aug 1 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Jul 31 2012, 05:22 PM)
ya maybe he meant some decent guitar after setup can have even better feel, but some below average guitar can't do much to it gua? my one is the solid top version of fender. dunno which series dy.. biggrin.gif
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if decent guitar then should not be a problem, and even if need modification of cutting woods n all, its worth it...but to those below rm1k..not worth it..the modification will cause easily 50% at least of the guitar value
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post Aug 1 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 1 2012, 12:59 PM)
haha my guitar cost 1.2k.. but i seriously think if i get the takamine same price as this , just without the plug-ins will sound better and playability is better. =P cool.gif
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hahhaa, depending on the models la...to me, if i got 1.2k, i'm go for FARIDA D12 or maybe some CORT guitar...lower end brands i would go for with low budget

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post Aug 2 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 2 2012, 10:02 AM)
Mine is Fender 120 something solid top with the fishman eq. i know that's not a good acoustic but cuz i dig Fender, i bought it.. haha  laugh.gif
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not bad la for its price..quite reasonable..anyway its preferences..maybe i won't like it but u like it...so overall its a fine guitar for sure
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 2 2012, 02:30 PM)
After changing the original strings to lighter guage strings, the playability has improved termendously. =D
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smaller gauge tends to feel easier to play, and of course easier to press...normally for electric, i play .09..sometimes .10..so depending oh...for acoustic .10 for me too
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post Aug 2 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveMyGuitars @ Aug 2 2012, 05:39 PM)
R you serious? Don't you feel soundless for acoustic? I'm using .12 and above all time. Used .11 once and .10 once. Real nightmare.
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using .10 acoustic for me, definately midbass very less and the dynamic kinda lose same as those who use .09 compared to 0.10 for electric...but my real reason of using acoustic guitar with .10 is because my hand feel very pain n tired if keep barred chord at .12..too too pain for me
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post Aug 3 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 3 2012, 09:37 AM)
Me too i don't know why my fingers won't grow 'immune' to those stress.. maybe cuz i didn't play that often.. Actually i saw a solution for this where it is call "extra light with bass" kinda strings set. The packet has some different guage strings for the mid bass to bass strings.  nod.gif
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pls do inform me if u know bout it..hahaha..hard to find this kind of fusion

 

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