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 I want to buy a decent acoustic guitar, Martin or taylor?

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intel_centrino
post Aug 2 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 2 2012, 02:30 PM)
After changing the original strings to lighter guage strings, the playability has improved termendously. =D
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smaller gauge tends to feel easier to play, and of course easier to press...normally for electric, i play .09..sometimes .10..so depending oh...for acoustic .10 for me too
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(hongster19 @ Aug 2 2012, 02:54 PM)
What gauge did you use?  biggrin.gif
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haha i think i used the 8.5 or 8 i forgot... is Extra Light.. i heard there's 1 type of string which is Extra Light with Heavy Bass kinda thing.. not really sure where to find those.. laugh.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Aug 2 2012, 03:23 PM)
smaller gauge tends to feel easier to play, and of course easier to press...normally for electric, i play .09..sometimes .10..so depending oh...for acoustic .10 for me too
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R you serious? Don't you feel soundless for acoustic? I'm using .12 and above all time. Used .11 once and .10 once. Real nightmare.
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QUOTE(ILoveMyGuitars @ Aug 2 2012, 05:39 PM)
R you serious? Don't you feel soundless for acoustic? I'm using .12 and above all time. Used .11 once and .10 once. Real nightmare.
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erm for my case, doesn't really affect much, the sound is brighter now compare to my ori strings that came with the guitars have more 'bass' feelings. hmm.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveMyGuitars @ Aug 2 2012, 05:39 PM)
R you serious? Don't you feel soundless for acoustic? I'm using .12 and above all time. Used .11 once and .10 once. Real nightmare.
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using .10 acoustic for me, definately midbass very less and the dynamic kinda lose same as those who use .09 compared to 0.10 for electric...but my real reason of using acoustic guitar with .10 is because my hand feel very pain n tired if keep barred chord at .12..too too pain for me
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post Aug 3 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Aug 2 2012, 10:08 PM)
using .10 acoustic for me, definately midbass very less and the dynamic kinda lose same as those who use .09 compared to 0.10 for electric...but my real reason of using acoustic guitar with .10 is because my hand feel very pain n tired if keep barred chord at .12..too too pain for me
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Me too i don't know why my fingers won't grow 'immune' to those stress.. maybe cuz i didn't play that often.. Actually i saw a solution for this where it is call "extra light with bass" kinda strings set. The packet has some different guage strings for the mid bass to bass strings. nod.gif
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post Aug 3 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 3 2012, 09:37 AM)
Me too i don't know why my fingers won't grow 'immune' to those stress.. maybe cuz i didn't play that often.. Actually i saw a solution for this where it is call "extra light with bass" kinda strings set. The packet has some different guage strings for the mid bass to bass strings.  nod.gif
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pls do inform me if u know bout it..hahaha..hard to find this kind of fusion
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post Aug 3 2012, 12:09 PM

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I saw LightA-medium gauge combi before. It is kinda like first tree string light gauge, the later three string medium or vice versa. I think special order from the shp is possible.
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post Aug 5 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Aug 3 2012, 11:51 AM)
pls do inform me if u know bout it..hahaha..hard to find this kind of fusion
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QUOTE(ILoveMyGuitars @ Aug 3 2012, 12:09 PM)
I saw LightA-medium gauge combi before. It is kinda like first tree string light gauge, the later three string medium or vice versa. I think special order from the shp is possible.
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Intel bro, i found it on wiki only.. not sure malaysia have it or not. u try wiki 'string gauge' and then u will see it. the numbers make me pening. rclxub.gif
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post Aug 6 2012, 02:59 PM

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I tried 0.9 and it's so thin sounding. Like playing electric guitar without amp. I think 0.10 is just nice.
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post Aug 7 2012, 07:51 AM

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This is me playing a santa cruz (not the fake santa cruz tongue.gif more like the SCGC variety) guitar that I bought in 2002. It costed me USD4000 back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtNmsPeULeY&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSljHwi2B7s&feature=plcp

IMHO playing the acoustic for more than 10 years, you don't have to spend a whole lot of money to get a good acoustic these days. The technology in making good mass produced acoustic guitars have leapt forward tremendous in the last 7 years.

On the Martin-Taylor spectrum its more like Martin, just better made and more delicately tuned. I like Taylor's playability, but I prefer a dry woody tone than the modern Taylor "sound". I don't play amplified guitars, either.

If you're a stage performer who plugs in Taylor would be a good choice, but I'd go for Takamines instead. They are made tough enough even for the roads. Taylors are a bit too precious for that sort of stuff.

Be careful of Malaysia's humidity. The more expensive the guitar (i.e. made with individually tone-tapped, thin solid wood tops), the more sensitive the tone is to humidity. You can get pretty crap sounds if the guitar is not kept dry-ish.

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post Aug 8 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(brolex @ Aug 7 2012, 07:51 AM)
This is me playing a santa cruz (not the fake santa cruz tongue.gif more like the SCGC variety) guitar that I bought in 2002. It costed me USD4000 back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtNmsPeULeY&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSljHwi2B7s&feature=plcp

IMHO playing the acoustic for more than 10 years, you don't have to spend a whole lot of money to get a good acoustic these days. The technology in making good mass produced acoustic guitars have leapt forward tremendous in the last 7 years.

On the Martin-Taylor spectrum its more like Martin, just better made and more delicately tuned. I like Taylor's playability, but I prefer a dry woody tone than the modern Taylor "sound". I don't play amplified guitars, either.

If you're a stage performer who plugs in Taylor would be a good choice, but I'd go for Takamines instead. They are made tough enough even for the roads. Taylors are a bit too precious for that sort of stuff.

Be careful of Malaysia's humidity. The more expensive the guitar (i.e. made with individually tone-tapped, thin solid wood tops), the more sensitive the tone is to humidity. You can get pretty crap sounds if the guitar is not kept dry-ish.
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That's the tricky part, how dry is dry? because too dry the wood will start to dried up look. or we can just put in the case with silica pack in it everytime after we done playing?
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post Aug 8 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 8 2012, 04:33 PM)
That's the tricky part, how dry is dry? because too dry the wood will start to dried up look. or we can just put in the case with silica pack in it everytime after we done playing?
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Rule of thumb is around 45% humidity.
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post Aug 9 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Aug 8 2012, 09:27 PM)
Rule of thumb is around 45% humidity.
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haha that's the part, even my camera are stock in a tupperware with some inaccurate amount of silica.. i don't have the meter to gauge it tongue.gif
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go for taylor.
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post Aug 10 2012, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 8 2012, 04:33 PM)
That's the tricky part, how dry is dry? because too dry the wood will start to dried up look. or we can just put in the case with silica pack in it everytime after we done playing?
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Cheaper still, use rice as they absorb moisture fairly well.

Turning the air-con helps a lot... on cooling cycles, they act as dehumidifiers.


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QUOTE(brolex @ Aug 10 2012, 08:21 AM)
Cheaper still, use rice as they absorb moisture fairly well.

Turning the air-con helps a lot... on cooling cycles, they act as dehumidifiers.
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rice will attract those rice worm? tongue.gif i just kept a small amount of silica and change whenever they changed colour.. hope it is working for me lol tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 10 2012, 10:08 AM)
rice will attract those rice worm?  tongue.gif  i just kept a small amount of silica and change whenever they changed colour.. hope it is working for me lol  tongue.gif
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I never thought about the worm, haha! Sometimes I can't be bothered gonig out to buy things and just use whatever is lying around tongue.gif



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post Aug 10 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(brolex @ Aug 10 2012, 10:55 AM)
I never thought about the worm, haha! Sometimes I can't be bothered gonig out to buy things and just use whatever is lying around tongue.gif
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haha before this, i didn't go out and purposely buy those, i recycled them from those (bags, biscuits, foods, ..... ) i bought and took out the silica. But i think last year, i bought 1 bottle of silica that will change to purple if it absorbed enough moisture for my camera, so i don't mind pouring some into my guitar and bass case.. but still.. haha not sure whether it is doing it's work or damaging my guitars slowly.. haha
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QUOTE(felixyukito @ Aug 10 2012, 11:09 AM)
haha before this, i didn't go out and purposely buy those, i recycled them from those (bags, biscuits, foods, ..... ) i bought and took out the silica. But i think last year, i bought 1 bottle of silica that will change to purple if it absorbed enough moisture for my camera, so i don't mind pouring some into my guitar and bass case.. but still.. haha not sure whether it is doing it's work or damaging my guitars slowly.. haha
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On the other hand, I don't think there will be enough silica to dry guitars in our 80+ RH%. biggrin.gif

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