you can try KIN Alignment in Bandar Sunway, i went there for more than 4 years already i guess, every time they did my alignment and balancing until very straight, good thing is they never ask me to change camber nut and one of the guy there even told me camber for most of the car is fixed and it wont out of align unless the car got accident before

the usual price for alignment + balancing for my car is RM60, and recently asked them to help me changed to adjustable camber i think it cost around RM80-90

really satisfy with their services

Where is this place, I wish to go there too. TQ

but then that's just 1 shop. I think most tyre shop will always say need change chamber nut, always say if don't change, will makan tyre. When we reply don't want change, then will say "are you sure? will makan one side oh. you better don't drive long distance highway if you really don't want change." Always trying to squeeze the last drop from our wallet.

Maybe there're a few decent tyre shop. But so far my experiences with tyre shop is "trying to squeeze my wallet".

tyre wear is never equal anyway, the side always wear faster than the middle even though i over inflate the tyre (38 psi at front and 36 psi at rear)

i usually made up my mind what i need to fix/change/install on my car before i sent to workshop, then i will ask them to quote me the price for everything first, then i will say "okay, help me do this this and this"

during my first time visit to KIN Alignment i purposely tell them DO NOT touch my camber nut and dont change it

So that's means that align Toe & align Chamber is different charges??? ie:
align toe for 4 wheels = RM 2x
align chamber for 1 wheel = RM 3x, 2 wheel = RM 6x (provided it is already adjustable)
is it correct?? why align chamber seems much more expensive??

what did you mean not 1 time job?
in my case, my ride is hyundai i10 FL, last time kena tukar adjustable chamber nut (RM80/pc) x 2 front tyre.

"after the bolt the angle wont lari anymore" meaning if i don't hit pothole hard or something, the chamber angle usually won't lari anymore even if it is adjustable chamber nut?

i dunno what LMST means, but i10's suspension front is macpherson strut, rear is coupled torsion beam axle (read direct from brochure, me not so familiar with suspension)

actually the READING is typically rm20-40
basically just hooking up the measuring/sensors to your car. in fact, Malaysia has among the cheapest alignment charges/service compared to other countries and hence most work/tireshops tend to cheat and upmark their other services such as camber nuts.

then AFTER READING, per adjustment (be it toe/caster/camber) can be rm5-20 per wheel, or maybe rm40 for any adjustment any wheel. really depends on the work/tireshop
some shops bought more expensive (and probably better/more accurate calibration/reading and they think it's justifiable to charge more, or maybe their hands on/experience justify their price.
good Alignment technician don't just adjust from the machine alone and call it a day, a test drive is a must to get actual road driving feedback and results.

you're ESSENTIALLY buying his man hours and expertise. go find out what's the average manhour labor charges on some service center or even part time supermarket job. and then compare with how much time is spent on the wheels/test driving/mounting the tools on the wheels etc.

oh and check out these "cheap china brands":
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/price-of-w...nt-machine.html
few k usd? suddenly not so cheap anymore eh?
rm20-40 per alignment, it'll take a bit of time to earn back your investment. assuming the machine does not need maintenance/repairs.
i didn't even know about it until nestum shared it with me

camber adjustable bolts are ALWAYS much weaker than factory/OEM bolts. unless you had been in major accidents/alteration that caused the camber/alignment to run off, and/or you have specific needs (eg: track driving, cornering like a total retard), then you should NOT replace the original bolt.

if you already replaced however, do get it check once every few weeks/months or at least every tire rotation every 5-15k km depending on your tire's wear rate/observation.

LMST = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Saga#P...2.80.93_2008.29


with all said and done, personally i run negative 2.5-2.7 and i STILL have my outer tire shoulder wearing faster than the inner shoulder. admittedly yes i drive like an idiot but i am merely pointing out an example of those "needs" and the alignment price/camber nut etc is all within my own means of justification.

alignment in USA is $50 , for the toe align only
while in msia , we are using HUNTER machine , from USA as well but the charges only start from rm25
not even come close to there
and Camber they will charge $50-100 depend on car and workmanship

still u think expensive here?
is below market price alot

ok maybe its not so expensive. but but... my 2 experience with tyre shops are not so good mah... so i've developed a certain 'scepticalness' towards tyre shop now