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post Jul 5 2012, 07:34 PM, updated 9y ago

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How you guys think tutti frutti ?
My friend is the owner of this business,i want to ask is this business profitable ?
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post Jul 5 2012, 07:44 PM

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ask your friend
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post Jul 5 2012, 08:03 PM

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the 1st word i can think of is expensive lol..
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QUOTE(Sadru @ Jul 5 2012, 07:44 PM)
ask your friend
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the 1st word i can think of is expensive lol..
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+1 for both.

Honestly tutti fruitti is such an overprice item. a little bit of yogurt plus some cheap toppings like cereals could cost nearly RM10. Rather buy some premium ice cream.
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QUOTE(winyew @ Jul 5 2012, 07:34 PM)
How you guys think tutti frutti ?
My friend is the owner of this business,i want to ask is this business profitable ?
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I would rather buy Moo Cow which is more nicer in taste.
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post Jul 5 2012, 08:57 PM

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I never try it...when I passby all the tutti frutti..always no people and their stuff play with flies
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:43 PM

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thank you very much .XD
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QUOTE(BlackPen @ Jul 5 2012, 09:57 PM)
I never try it...when I passby all the tutti frutti..always no people and their stuff play with flies
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it just opened in my area and was so crowded and so packed........... for two weeks..... then no people

I mean, who can sit down, eat ice cream/yogurt and chit chat? everyday???
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Jul 5 2012, 10:52 PM)
it just opened in my area and was so crowded and so packed........... for two weeks..... then no people

I mean, who can sit down, eat ice cream/yogurt and chit chat? everyday???
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post Jul 6 2012, 03:48 AM

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You guys heard the story of tutti frutti in London? I got this from my lecturer:

There was a Malaysian student who's studying in the UK who's back on her summer holidays here in Malaysia and she loves tutti frutti. The thing is its not available in the UK so she thought of a crazy idea, to bring it into the UK. So not long after she flew back to the UK, she heard that tutti frutti was conducting interviews for selection of a vendor to start up tutti frutti in the UK. She then flew all the way to US for the interview. She was just an undergraduate student. The people in tutti frutti were amazed by her passion and actually gave her a chance but she has to fund her own capital. Being just an undergraduate student, she has no capital at all.

So with the aid of her brother who's a banker, they went knocking on every bank's door trying to seal a loan. Of course they were rejected. However, she was from a rich family so she somehow managed to came up with that amount of funds to actually bring tutti frutti into the UK (I forgot the amount but it was definitely in millions). As promised, she's got the tender and is planning to open up the first outlet in London before the olympics this year.

This story probably has nothing to do with the question lol but just to share some knowledge smile.gif
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post Jul 6 2012, 09:19 AM

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From what I think, tutti fruity is a fail business and the probability of success is 1/8. Just from my humble opinion
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QUOTE(sapapa @ Jul 6 2012, 10:19 AM)
From what I think, tutti fruity is a fail business and the probability of success is 1/8. Just from my humble opinion
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I think it fail interm of sustainability.... like ahh.. its been a week, l;ets go to tutti fruity.. rather than, lets go tutti fruity o morning noon and night...
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Jul 6 2012, 09:26 AM)
I think it fail interm of sustainability.... like ahh.. its been a week, l;ets go to tutti fruity.. rather than, lets go tutti fruity o morning noon and night...
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Tutti fruity is just like Starbucks. 1 stall selling fruits and yogurts while the other selling coffee. A hangout place. 1 is rather light and the other is dim place. 1 is good for health and nutritious and the other is tasty and addictive for coffee lovers.

But why Starbucks has the upperhand?

1) People in Malaysia are not health-conscious.

2) If it is a hangout place for group of friends, a place to relax and a couple to date, a dim-lighted place is preferred.

3) Coffee has substance that stimulates your mind and is addictive just like tobacco.

These are the 3 main reasons I can think of why Tutti Fruity fails


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definitely overprice.
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QUOTE(hellfiredbh @ Jul 5 2012, 08:29 PM)
+1 for both.

Honestly tutti fruitti is such an overprice item. a little bit of yogurt plus some cheap toppings like cereals could cost nearly RM10. Rather buy some premium ice cream.
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Ya, that's true.
I can by my own yogurt from the supermarket and sprinkled a wee bit of cereal on it and it won't cost me RM2 for that item.
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Went there. Press the yogurt as many as the cup can hold.... It was fun and fresh.... Choose the topping, and put as many combination as possible (which seems fit lar)....

Then go to the counter... Weight the cup... And dam.... Give me a heart attack...

Since so expensive, keep pushing myself must finish the whole cup... Halfway through, give up...

Never go there again......

So thats my opinion about tutti frutti...
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QUOTE(edyek @ Jul 6 2012, 12:24 PM)
Went there. Press the yogurt as many as the cup can hold.... It was fun and fresh.... Choose the topping, and put as many combination as possible (which seems fit lar)....

Then go to the counter... Weight the cup... And dam.... Give me a heart attack...

Since so expensive, keep pushing myself must finish the whole cup... Halfway through, give up...

Never go there again......

So thats my opinion about tutti frutti...
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hahaa.. very funny man. but same goes to me..

2 cup of yogurt ice-cream worth rm35 give me a heart attack..

first time and definitely last time
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QUOTE(edyek @ Jul 6 2012, 11:24 AM)
Went there. Press the yogurt as many as the cup can hold.... It was fun and fresh.... Choose the topping, and put as many combination as possible (which seems fit lar)....

Then go to the counter... Weight the cup... And dam.... Give me a heart attack...

Since so expensive, keep pushing myself must finish the whole cup... Halfway through, give up...

Never go there again......

So thats my opinion about tutti frutti...
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how much was it?
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post Jul 6 2012, 12:34 PM

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I like TF, but hate the price.

I was once used the large cup, just pure youghurt, without topping or whatsoever... cost me RM9.30.

While my gf used small cup, SOME youghurt with 2 slices of kiwi. RM7.75.

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post Jul 6 2012, 01:40 PM

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They are following something like baskin robins but failed although baskin robins fair a little bit better
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forget to mention. If you weight the largest cup only without youghurt or topping.. (I tried once before in 1 of the outlets in Cheras), the cup itself cost 55 cents already. Funny right?
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QUOTE(RS42 @ Jul 6 2012, 03:48 AM)
You guys heard the story of tutti frutti in London? I got this from my lecturer:

There was a Malaysian student who's studying in the UK who's back on her summer holidays here in Malaysia and she loves tutti frutti. The thing is its not available in the UK so she thought of a crazy idea, to bring it into the UK. So not long after she flew back to the UK, she heard that tutti frutti was conducting interviews for selection of a vendor to start up tutti frutti in the UK. She then flew all the way to US for the interview. She was just an undergraduate student. The people in tutti frutti were amazed by her passion and actually gave her a chance but she has to fund her own capital. Being just an undergraduate student, she has no capital at all.

So with the aid of her brother who's a banker, they went knocking on every bank's door trying to seal a loan. Of course they were rejected. However, she was from a rich family so she somehow managed to came up with that amount of funds to actually bring tutti frutti into the UK (I forgot the amount but it was definitely in millions). As promised, she's got the tender and is planning to open up the first outlet in London before the olympics this year.

This story probably has nothing to do with the question lol but just to share some knowledge  smile.gif
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WTH, what story is that, LOL.

It's like one day there lived a girl and a seven dwarves. The girl had two bad stepsisters. The dwarves live in the forest and mine gold everyday. The end.

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 6 2012, 02:06 PM)
WTH, what story is that, LOL.

It's like one day there lived a girl and a seven dwarves. The girl had two bad stepsisters. The dwarves live in the forest and mine gold everyday. The end.
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Lol the moral behind this story which my lecturer tried to convey is to do something which you have passion in
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post Jul 9 2012, 12:20 AM

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Fresh thing to try the first time. But not enough to entice me to come back for more.
Overpriced and not something I'll think about when hanging out with friends.
Have to skip the chit chat and eat the yoghurt first before it turns mushy and watery. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(CCCash @ Jul 9 2012, 12:20 AM)
Fresh thing to try the first time. But not enough to entice me to come back for more.
Overpriced and not something I'll think about when hanging out with friends.
Have to skip the chit chat and eat the yoghurt first before it turns mushy and watery. biggrin.gif
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Just about the post the same comment..

It's overpriced IMHO
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First our family was interested in investing TF franchise but the starting capital is too high about 800k.Franchise fees already cost about 300-400k.So our family ask other froyo brand and i after 2month of doing research,We finally interested to invest in Snogurt franchise smile.gif .Our outlet is expected to open in 3-4weeks more because we are still pending to get permit from MBSA to start renovation.Renovation took maximum 3weeks to completed.So you guys can come support us later at Snogurt Sec7,Shah Alam.:claps: :claps: Our shop is just next to Sekinchan Ikan Bakar biggrin.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(RS42 @ Jul 6 2012, 03:48 AM)
You guys heard the story of tutti frutti in London? I got this from my lecturer:

There was a Malaysian student who's studying in the UK who's back on her summer holidays here in Malaysia and she loves tutti frutti. The thing is its not available in the UK so she thought of a crazy idea, to bring it into the UK. So not long after she flew back to the UK, she heard that tutti frutti was conducting interviews for selection of a vendor to start up tutti frutti in the UK. She then flew all the way to US for the interview. She was just an undergraduate student. The people in tutti frutti were amazed by her passion and actually gave her a chance but she has to fund her own capital. Being just an undergraduate student, she has no capital at all.

So with the aid of her brother who's a banker, they went knocking on every bank's door trying to seal a loan. Of course they were rejected. However, she was from a rich family so she somehow managed to came up with that amount of funds to actually bring tutti frutti into the UK (I forgot the amount but it was definitely in millions). As promised, she's got the tender and is planning to open up the first outlet in London before the olympics this year.

This story probably has nothing to do with the question lol but just to share some knowledge  smile.gif
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Her father is a cabinet minister. First outlet is at Convent Garden.

Tutti Frutti is a member of Naza business empire, selling frozen yogurt and condiment at RM200/kg.


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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 9 2012, 11:10 PM)
First our family was interested in investing TF franchise but the starting capital is too high about 800k.Franchise fees already cost about 300-400k.So our family ask other froyo brand and i after 2month of doing research,We finally interested to invest in Snogurt franchise smile.gif .Our outlet is expected to open in 3-4weeks more because we are still pending to get permit from MBSA to start renovation.Renovation took maximum 3weeks to completed.So you guys can come support us later at Snogurt Sec7,Shah Alam.:claps: :claps:  Our shop is just next to Sekinchan Ikan Bakar biggrin.gif smile.gif
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tried once before in taman U skudai.. Pricier than TF and more sour. Every froyo also sour. TF feels better. At least feel want to go once evey month. Snogurt dont want anymore. Sorry..
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I find this thread very funny dunno why tongue.gif

QUOTE(winyew @ Jul 5 2012, 07:34 PM)
How you guys think tutti frutti ?
My friend is the owner of this business,i want to ask is this business profitable ?
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Your friend is the owner then why you don't ask your friend whether it's profitable or not then tell us ?


QUOTE(RS42 @ Jul 6 2012, 03:48 AM)
You guys heard the story of tutti frutti in London? I got this from my lecturer:

There was a Malaysian student who's studying in the UK who's back on her summer holidays here in Malaysia and she loves tutti frutti. The thing is its not available in the UK so she thought of a crazy idea, to bring it into the UK. So not long after she flew back to the UK, she heard that tutti frutti was conducting interviews for selection of a vendor to start up tutti frutti in the UK. She then flew all the way to US for the interview. She was just an undergraduate student. The people in tutti frutti were amazed by her passion and actually gave her a chance but she has to fund her own capital. Being just an undergraduate student, she has no capital at all.

So with the aid of her brother who's a banker, they went knocking on every bank's door trying to seal a loan. Of course they were rejected. However, she was from a rich family so she somehow managed to came up with that amount of funds to actually bring tutti frutti into the UK (I forgot the amount but it was definitely in millions). As promised, she's got the tender and is planning to open up the first outlet in London before the olympics this year.

This story probably has nothing to do with the question lol but just to share some knowledge  smile.gif
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So the moral of the story is that ? She's from a rich family and she had to knock on every bank's door ? and the franchise for tutti fruitti is in millions ??? pounds ?? even RM it's kinda hardcore isn't it ?

Btw my story of tutti frutti is even better ... definitely my first and last visit ... juz came back from US that time so I thought similar with US style .. he price is just based on cup size .. never knew it was based on WEIGHT ... so happy happy take full cup ... ber lambak lambak take toppings ... when i pay time .. the cashier literally shouted "OH MY GOD" ... I also never said OMG but she said it ... dafuq .. it ended up like 26 ringgit or something ... pretty sure it starts with a 2 ... and yes 1 cup only ... wth man ...
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Frozen yogurt is like low fat ice cream is loaded with sugar. Yogurt is made from skimmed milk, left over from butter/cream making. Full cream milk cost about RM7 per liter/kg from supermarket so profit on frozen yogurt is very much higher than ice cream. Some earlier TF and popular outlets pay back period were 6 months.

Frozen yogurt is not as popular as proper ice cream in the U.S., Australia, Japan, Europe, etc, doubt it will last.





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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 9 2012, 11:10 PM)
First our family was interested in investing TF franchise but the starting capital is too high about 800k.Franchise fees already cost about 300-400k.So our family ask other froyo brand and i after 2month of doing research,We finally interested to invest in Snogurt franchise smile.gif .Our outlet is expected to open in 3-4weeks more because we are still pending to get permit from MBSA to start renovation.Renovation took maximum 3weeks to completed.So you guys can come support us later at Snogurt Sec7,Shah Alam.:claps: :claps:  Our shop is just next to Sekinchan Ikan Bakar biggrin.gif smile.gif
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tried once before in taman U skudai.. Pricier than TF and more sour. Every froyo also sour. TF feels better. At least feel want to go once evey month. Snogurt dont want anymore. Sorry..
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 10 2012, 01:53 PM)
tried once before in taman U skudai.. Pricier than TF and more sour. Every froyo also sour. TF feels better. At least feel want to go once evey month. Snogurt dont want anymore. Sorry..
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Hello bro please do research before post laugh.gif ,TF charges every 10gm for 59sen while Snogurt charges you 49sen.Snogurt taste sourish and more yogurty taste because we dont use Fullcream milk like TF,We use low-fat milk.Anyway its up to you which one you want,its your choiice biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 10 2012, 04:04 PM)
Hello bro please do research before post  laugh.gif ,TF charges every 10gm for 59sen while Snogurt charges you 49sen.Snogurt taste sourish and more yogurty taste because we dont use Fullcream milk like TF,We use low-fat milk.Anyway its up to you which one you want,its your choiice  biggrin.gif
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remembered TF only 43 sen.. anyway to taste once in a month doesn't need much research.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 10 2012, 07:37 PM)
remembered TF only 43 sen.. anyway to taste once in a month doesn't need much research..  rolleyes.gif
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Go and google search you will see it,its 59sen rolleyes.gif ,And you talk very arrogant,like you are all correct whistling.gif,better talk with prove than talk kosong whistling.gif
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it doesn't matter whether it's sour, expensive, etc. What matters is, how much sales and profits are made monthly, roughly.. That's the most important info.. Anyone knows?
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 10 2012, 07:44 PM)
Go and google search you will see it,its 59sen  rolleyes.gif ,And you talk very arrogant,like you are all correct  whistling.gif,better talk with prove than talk kosong whistling.gif
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hey i rmb you,

you're the guy who was asking on lowyat about franchise business a few months ago.

It seems you are operating one now? Where is it, come let me visit to support smile.gif I actually like snogurt but I wouldnt say TF or this is better smile.gif
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Oi wth is this tutti fruti bashing thread ? I thought suppose to discuss the financial viability of it as a franchise.

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QUOTE(zeese @ Jul 10 2012, 08:46 PM)
it doesn't matter whether it's sour, expensive, etc. What matters is, how much sales and profits are made monthly, roughly.. That's the most important info..  Anyone knows?
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You want to see the breakeven?PM me your email.The franchisor has given me the proposal and also counted the breakeven smile.gif
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QUOTE(hellfiredbh @ Jul 10 2012, 10:24 PM)
hey i rmb you,

you're the guy who was asking on lowyat about franchise business a few months ago.

It seems you are operating one now? Where is it, come let me visit to support smile.gif I actually like snogurt but I wouldnt say TF or this is better smile.gif
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Yeah that was me smile.gif ,My outlet is still in renovation,It is located at Sec7,Shah Alam beside Sekinchan Ikan Bakar.Btw thx for the support biggrin.gif .Btw,its anybody right to choose what there prefer,but dont talk so arrogant smile.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 10 2012, 07:44 PM)
Go and google search you will see it,its 59sen  rolleyes.gif ,And you talk very arrogant,like you are all correct  whistling.gif,better talk with prove than talk kosong whistling.gif
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both of you wrong .. it is 53sen/10g ... I am sure and confirm! .. LOL! ..
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 10 2012, 07:44 PM)
Go and google search you will see it,its 59sen  rolleyes.gif ,And you talk very arrogant,like you are all correct  whistling.gif,better talk with prove than talk kosong whistling.gif
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lol shop owner.. later don't kick customer's ass like those kfc chap.. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 11 2012, 10:02 AM)
lol shop owner.. later don't kick customer's ass like those kfc chap..  rolleyes.gif
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You thought i am inmature like you ah rolleyes.gif
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Both i also never went before . Most of the TF is empty people while i'm not sure about snogurt .
a conclusion from me , TF is a fail business while still request 300-400k franchise fees .
i can do alot things with RM300k . & i believe TF can only reach less than RM500 sales average per day

So,irfan any discount for us? from KL - shah alam so far biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 11 2012, 01:16 PM)
Both i also never went before . Most of the TF is empty people while i'm not sure about snogurt .
a conclusion from me , TF is a fail business while still request 300-400k franchise fees .
i can do alot things with RM300k . & i believe TF can only reach less than RM500 sales average per day

So,irfan any discount for us? from KL - shah alam so far  biggrin.gif
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Hey,you know that TF Sec7,Shah Alam sales per day can acchieve RM3-5k per day.And Snogurt franchise fees is only 80k unlike TF which is 300-400k.Yes for sure got 30% discount opening promotion for 1month for all the LYN forumer biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 11 2012, 02:46 PM)
Hey,you know that TF Sec7,Shah Alam sales per day can acchieve RM3-5k per day.And Snogurt franchise fees is only 80k unlike TF which is 300-400k.Yes for sure got 30% discount opening promotion for 1month for all the LYN forumer  biggrin.gif
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TF open more than 20 outlet in KV area . sure there's at least 2-5 branches is earning nice money , 5-10 branches is average , and the rest 10 branches is losting money every month .

so i assume shah alam sec 7 one is the exception .
come down KL then u will see how quiet is Tutti Frutti ShopLot .

When you gonna open 2nd branch in KL/PJ area ? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 11 2012, 04:05 PM)
TF open more than 20 outlet in KV area . sure there's at least 2-5 branches is earning nice money , 5-10 branches is average , and the rest 10 branches is losting money every month .

so i assume shah alam sec 7 one is the exception .
come down KL then u will see how quiet is Tutti Frutti ShopLot .

When you gonna open 2nd branch in KL/PJ area ?  biggrin.gif
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Maybe if my first outlet is succesfull,5-6month after that.We are planning around Amcorp Mall area
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Hey,you know that TF Sec7,Shah Alam sales per day can acchieve RM3-5k per day.And Snogurt franchise fees is only 80k unlike TF which is 300-400k.Yes for sure got 30% discount opening promotion for 1month for all the LYN forumer  biggrin.gif
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u havent open the outlet also can know 3-5k per day meh?
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As a customer, all I can remember is the guy before me was topping up his yogurt with toppings, then lots of syrup like he making an ice kacang, lol I saw the bill came to more than $27, he was so shocked, had to run to his car to get more money. I realised the most expensive topping is the syrup, one shot (30g) will cost more than 1.50. Don't anyhow squirt that like a McDonald's sundae.
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 11 2012, 03:46 PM)
Hey,you know that TF Sec7,Shah Alam sales per day can acchieve RM3-5k per day.And Snogurt franchise fees is only 80k unlike TF which is 300-400k.Yes for sure got 30% discount opening promotion for 1month for all the LYN forumer  biggrin.gif
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u havent open the outlet also can know 3-5k per day meh?
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Read back the bold part smile.gif .I say TF Sec7 mine is Snogurt bro biggrin.gif


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lol kid what is inmature?  rolleyes.gif
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+1 for both.

Honestly tutti fruitti is such an overprice item. a little bit of yogurt plus some cheap toppings like cereals could cost nearly RM10. Rather buy some premium ice cream.
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this is what i honestly think too
the quality is substandard
at least quality ice creams have the ingredients.

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Over the years, many franchise sprout out when they saw pioneer e.g. Kim Gary, Old Town, Chatime, etc are successful but few survive after 2 years largely due to poorer quality, higher price or inconsistent offering.

Historically, chance for poor quality copycat to survive beyond 3rd year in business is slim.


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You guys heard the story of tutti frutti in London? I got this from my lecturer:

There was a Malaysian student who's studying in the UK who's back on her summer holidays here in Malaysia and she loves tutti frutti. The thing is its not available in the UK so she thought of a crazy idea, to bring it into the UK. So not long after she flew back to the UK, she heard that tutti frutti was conducting interviews for selection of a vendor to start up tutti frutti in the UK. She then flew all the way to US for the interview. She was just an undergraduate student. The people in tutti frutti were amazed by her passion and actually gave her a chance but she has to fund her own capital. Being just an undergraduate student, she has no capital at all.

So with the aid of her brother who's a banker, they went knocking on every bank's door trying to seal a loan. Of course they were rejected. However, she was from a rich family so she somehow managed to came up with that amount of funds to actually bring tutti frutti into the UK (I forgot the amount but it was definitely in millions). As promised, she's got the tender and is planning to open up the first outlet in London before the olympics this year.

This story probably has nothing to do with the question lol but just to share some knowledge  smile.gif
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QUOTE(edyek @ Jul 6 2012, 12:24 PM)
Went there. Press the yogurt as many as the cup can hold.... It was fun and fresh.... Choose the topping, and put as many combination as possible (which seems fit lar)....

Then go to the counter... Weight the cup... And dam.... Give me a heart attack...

Since so expensive, keep pushing myself must finish the whole cup... Halfway through, give up...

Never go there again......

So thats my opinion about tutti frutti...
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QUOTE(glitterRAMEE @ Jul 6 2012, 12:27 PM)
hahaa.. very funny man. but same goes to me..

2 cup of yogurt ice-cream worth rm35 give me a heart attack..

first time and definitely last time
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Maybe if my first outlet is succesfull,5-6month after that.We are planning around Amcorp Mall area
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in the begining snogurt was great in my area subang,
nows its attracting flies most of the time its empty, they are surving on discounts
the tutti fruti is worst

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QUOTE(sam sam @ Jul 13 2012, 03:10 PM)
in the begining snogurt was great in my area subang,
nows its attracting flies most of the time its empty, they are surving on discounts
the tutti fruti is worst
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Actually according to the what The franchise director say was,The subang outlet is actually not fully function as cafe but its main function was as their R&D centre
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 11 2012, 02:46 PM)
Hey,you know that TF Sec7,Shah Alam sales per day can acchieve RM3-5k per day.And Snogurt franchise fees is only 80k unlike TF which is 300-400k.Yes for sure got 30% discount opening promotion for 1month for all the LYN forumer  biggrin.gif
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Rm3k per day. lets do some calculations

RM3k/RM 8 (say one cup is ard RM8)
= 375 cups per day

Tutti frutti selling over 300 cups per day?? any seen a tutti frutti outlet even selling more than 100 cups per day? Even the outlet in sunway pyramid i really doubt that they could sell more than 100 cups.

And if you look at the calculations, i took RM 3k and not 5 k. which is already conservative figure. and also i took RM 8.

Say each cup is RM 15, then that will equals into 200 cups per day.

I reallyyyyy doubt they can sell that much,

QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 13 2012, 03:07 PM)
Actually according to the what The franchise director say was,The subang outlet is actually not fully function as  cafe but its main function was as their R&D centre
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For this, i dont think so too. The owner is warung central sdn bhd (or something like that) not Snogurt. The franchisee name is also not one of the directors (if i'm not mistaken)

Sounds very fishy la from what they are telling you irfan.

First I feel that they OVEROVEROVERstate the figures. Then, they tell you that the subang outlet is a R&D centre which actually belongs to a franchisee. Plus, subang outlet not too long ago only started. Before this they dont have a R&D?
Sounds like they are just interested to get the franchise fee. >.<
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Are you talking about the one at SS15?They started the Snogurt SS15 around 2010.And they only start licensing program last year December.And their first franchisee is Raja Farah. , Yeah bro TF Sec7 actually made average about 3k daily.You should see the outlet everyday is packed with UITM student.And so if you been to TF before.Average for each cup is aroud RM 10.So,
RM10 X 300 cups .Its is possible they can acchive that amount.But my snogurt target is only RM2000 per day,Because our shop is located a bit inside unlike TF which is located at the main road

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Are you talking about the one at SS15?They started the Snogurt SS15 around 2010.And they only start licensing program last year December.And their first franchisee is Raja Farah. , Yeah bro TF Sec7 actually made average about 3k daily.You should see the outlet everyday is packed with UITM student.And so if you been to TF before.Average for each cup is aroud RM 10.So,
RM10 X 300 cups .Its is  possible they can acchive that amount.But my snogurt target is only RM2000 per day,Because our shop is located a bit inside unlike TF which is located at the main road
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nope the one in usj subang, i think thats the one sam sam was talking about.
anyhow, the saying that they cant make more than 3k is based on the assumption from the outlets in subang and PJ and pyramid. Never been to Sec7 so probably could be wrong.

I hope u did your analyse properly. from what the director gave me the plan is quite fishy.


what happened to the one is SS15? it closed down quite a while ago. so where's their R&D now?
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nope the one in usj subang, i think thats the one sam sam was talking about.
anyhow, the saying that they cant make more than 3k is based on the assumption from the outlets in subang and PJ and pyramid. Never been to Sec7 so probably could be wrong.

I hope u did your analyse properly. from what the director gave me the plan is quite fishy.
what happened to the one is SS15? it closed down quite a while ago. so where's their R&D now?
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Snogurt I mention it's in subang ss15

In the beginning the Snogurt in ss15 used to be busy. Same with tutti frutti in prymarid. That was during the hot years of Snogurt around 2009. Food trend has change to the Taiwan dessert. Even now the trend is slowly dying for the Taiwanese craze. Snogurt is so yesterday in trends

Also yogurt dessert in Malaysia not so good mainly because the milk they use is inferior eventhough. Even if the shop uses Australian milk it's still not so good compared to the originals country franchisee. The milk is not fresh at all
That is why Malaysia make below average chocolate eventhough with the Belgium chocolate.



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How many brands can actually bring big bucks to franchisees? Even secret recipe can't promise anythg to franchisees. U ll b surprise to learn tat secret recipe outlets in Sabah make beta $$$ than in some outlets in KV.

I came across and study quite a few franchise plan and I actually gav up taking any of them cos the franchise fee is a big concern for one to invest in franchise biz. Unless those $$$ is really a surplus for one. If one really interested in franchise biz, beta b the franchiser rather thn franchisee.

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The problem with franchise is the franchiser is the one that makes the big bucks because it's a blue ocean. By the time it's franchise out, the money gets smaller. So the franchisee makes the money for selling the licenses.

Like most investments once the investments becomes hot and you want to go its too late already
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Those franchisors that have long term vision will make money from loyalty (i.e. end customers), others preferred to make from licensing fee (i.e. franchisee).

There is a sucker born every minute.

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How you guys think tutti frutti ?
My friend is the owner of this business,i want to ask is this business profitable ?
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Your friend is the owner or the franchisee? Is it profittable? Go ask Naza group blush.gif
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franchisee from the 5 yogurts in my area do not make much
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lol kesian irfan....get conned to go into franchise business....already study extensively more than 8 years back....8 out of 10 will be in great losses....only the franchisor makes the big bucks with licensing fee...if not believe go search old news whr a group of franchise holder went bankrupt or in the red for many many years...
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lol kesian irfan....get conned to go into franchise business....already study extensively more than 8 years back....8 out of 10 will be in great losses....only the franchisor makes the big bucks with licensing fee...if not believe go search old news whr a group of franchise holder went bankrupt or in the red for many many years...
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this thing is like a trend....after a few years most of them will die off....like a mushroom....very few franchise able to be like McD or KFC with their aggresive advetising.... this kind of buinesss needs its repepetitive and regular customer....i dont think so that will happened wif TuttiFrutti...eat one time kena robbed RM30...and dats the last time i will eat there....n i believe dats wat most of malaysian experience wif TF....really unforgettable regret experience....what makes them wanna be a repeat customer in the future? NIL
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 19 2012, 10:26 PM)
this thing is like a trend....after a few years most of them will die off....like a mushroom....very few franchise able to be like McD or KFC with their aggresive advetising.... this kind of buinesss needs its repepetitive and regular customer....i dont think so that will happened wif TuttiFrutti...eat one time kena robbed RM30...and dats the last time i will eat there....n i believe dats wat most of malaysian experience wif TF....really unforgettable regret experience....what makes them wanna be a repeat customer in the future? NIL
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Franchise business I think mcd is the most successful.
Have u seen a bad outline of mcd
For tutti fruit and Snogurt is the opposite. Have not seen a busy outlet for a while
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 19 2012, 10:26 PM)
this thing is like a trend....after a few years most of them will die off....like a mushroom....very few franchise able to be like McD or KFC with their aggresive advetising.... this kind of buinesss needs its repepetitive and regular customer....i dont think so that will happened wif TuttiFrutti...eat one time kena robbed RM30...and dats the last time i will eat there....n i believe dats wat most of malaysian experience wif TF....really unforgettable regret experience....what makes them wanna be a repeat customer in the future? NIL
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actually McD is not a franchise anymore, yea they do say they have all the franchise plan blablabla on their website but now they are rich enough to open their own outlets. they stopped being a franchise quite a while ago.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 19 2012, 10:24 PM)
lol kesian irfan....get conned to go into franchise business....already study extensively more than 8 years back....8 out of 10 will be in great losses....only the franchisor makes the big bucks with licensing fee...if not believe go search old news whr a group of franchise holder went bankrupt or in the red for many many years...
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You all can say what you want, whistling.gif If i dont take the risk the now, will i be succesfull?No right.And my dad and i has been studying about 10 franchise businees plan for 2years before choosing Snogurt.The master franchise also friendly and he got very high vision in businees.He also very passioned in Froyo smile.gif .I repeat again ,There is no businees without risk.Insyallah we will success.
Regards,Irfan
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 20 2012, 07:22 PM)
You all can say what you want,  whistling.gif  If i dont take the risk the now, will i be succesfull?No right.And my dad and i has been studying about 10 franchise businees plan for 2years before choosing Snogurt.The master franchise also friendly and he got very high vision in businees.He also very passioned in Froyo smile.gif .I repeat again ,There is no businees  without risk.Insyallah we will success.
Regards,Irfan
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Good luck and hope you are successful.

Even if you do not make it with this franchise, you can always take it as a lesson. Failure is the mother of all success

Anyway, I agree with everyone else the product is too expensive to attract me to buy from them again. 1 time business only cry.gif
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 20 2012, 08:46 PM)
Good luck and hope you are successful.

Even if you do not make it with this franchise, you can always take it as a lesson. Failure is the mother of all success

Anyway, I agree with everyone else the product is too expensive to attract me to buy from them again. 1 time business only  cry.gif
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So how much would this cost ?
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 20 2012, 09:18 PM)
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So how much would this cost ?
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Estimated around rm10-rm14?
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 20 2012, 08:20 PM)
Estimated around rm10-rm14?
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i'm not sure =.=" taken from Google image .

But i would say around RM7.50 this cup is reasonable for me.
if RM10-14 , maybe half year i will go eat once only smile.gif
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 20 2012, 09:24 PM)
i'm not sure =.=" taken from Google image .

But i would say around RM7.50 this cup is reasonable for me.
if RM10-14 , maybe half year i will go eat once only  smile.gif
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I think 8.00 is possible with 15% student discount tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 20 2012, 08:30 PM)
I think 8.00 is possible with 15% student discount  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 20 2012, 07:22 PM)
You all can say what you want,  whistling.gif  If i dont take the risk the now, will i be succesfull?No right.And my dad and i has been studying about 10 franchise businees plan for 2years before choosing Snogurt.The master franchise also friendly and he got very high vision in businees.He also very passioned in Froyo smile.gif .I repeat again ,There is no businees  without risk.Insyallah we will success.
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Which master franchiser is not friendly and high vision? They want your business
Hopefully the risk is small

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QUOTE(sam sam @ Jul 20 2012, 09:37 PM)
Which master franchiser is not friendly and high vision? They want your business
Hopefully the risk is small
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At least he is very passioned about Frozen Yogurt smile.gif
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QUOTE(sam sam @ Jul 19 2012, 10:32 PM)
Franchise business I think mcd is the most successful.
Have u seen a bad outline of mcd
For tutti fruit and Snogurt is the opposite. Have not seen a busy outlet for a while
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mcD got control their license.
not like u got money then can simply open.

they will check around the area that franchisee would like to open.
check the population, average income in that area..
got pass baru can open wan.. and it cost millions..
average one in CV also 3 to 4mil
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 21 2012, 01:08 PM)
At least he is very passioned about Frozen Yogurt  smile.gif
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So how much is total cost include franchise fees + renovation + everythings ?
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 21 2012, 02:31 PM)
So how much is total cost include franchise fees + renovation + everythings  ?
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385k,my parents take loan by refinincing his banglo lot
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 21 2012, 01:49 PM)
385k,my parents take loan by refinincing his banglo lot
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woow. how long is the contract with snogurt ?

haha i'm just curious .
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 21 2012, 03:02 PM)
woow. how long is the contract with snogurt ?

haha i'm just curious .
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5years without paying a single cent except for the ingredient supply.And 3years warranty for the machine.
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 21 2012, 02:16 PM)
5years without paying a single cent except for the ingredient supply.And 3years warranty for the machine.
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hmmm
So after 5 years they will need you to pay the franchising fees again ?
Seems abit costly with the machine & total cost , most probably franchisor earn abit from renovation & machine cost from you .

Good Luck in your business , this business is quite fresh for me biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 21 2012, 03:27 PM)
hmmm
So after 5 years they will need you to pay the franchising fees again ?
Seems abit costly with the machine & total cost , most probably franchisor earn abit from renovation & machine cost from you .

Good Luck in your business , this business is quite fresh for me  biggrin.gif
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Yes 5years again only pay 100k to renew license.Thx for the support smile.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Jul 21 2012, 02:29 PM)
Yes 5years again only pay 100k to renew license.Thx for the support smile.gif
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lol kesian irfan....get conned to go into franchise business....already study extensively more than 8 years back....8 out of 10 will be in great losses....only the franchisor makes the big bucks with licensing fee...if not believe go search old news whr a group of franchise holder went bankrupt or in the red for many many years...
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another arrogant? lol

he's opening another r&d centre so why pity him? Can help to discover what taste flies like most.. laugh.gif
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wow....refinance ur family home?? dats a huge gamble to take....if the business went bad could lose ur house...u better promote this thing aggressively...i would suggest distribute any sort of discount membership card or something to d student....its okay to get lower profit margin at least they will fill ur shop n get you regular repeat cust....dont be like tutti frutti so classy new customer come charge rm20-30...after dat only manage to attract a few cust daily...
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 21 2012, 04:50 PM)
wow....refinance ur family home?? dats a huge gamble to take....if the business went bad could lose ur house...u better promote this thing aggressively...i would suggest distribute any sort of discount membership card or something to d student....its okay to get lower profit margin at least they will fill ur shop n get you regular repeat cust....dont be like tutti frutti so classy new customer come charge rm20-30...after dat only manage to attract a few cust daily...
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Snogurt memang got -15% for student already .

for the membership card, he is just franchisees ,can't simply give out member card one
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wow....refinance ur family home?? dats a huge gamble to take....if the business went bad could lose ur house...u better promote this thing aggressively...i would suggest distribute any sort of discount membership card or something to d student....its okay to get lower profit margin at least they will fill ur shop n get you regular repeat cust....dont be like tutti frutti so classy new customer come charge rm20-30...after dat only manage to attract a few cust daily...
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Went once and i did not read the charges properly, put as much toppings as possible, it says free, (nothing is free!), weighed up, 16bucks ++ i almost pengsan there ..
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 21 2012, 05:50 PM)
wow....refinance ur family home?? dats a huge gamble to take....if the business went bad could lose ur house...u better promote this thing aggressively...i would suggest distribute any sort of discount membership card or something to d student....its okay to get lower profit margin at least they will fill ur shop n get you regular repeat cust....dont be like tutti frutti so classy new customer come charge rm20-30...after dat only manage to attract a few cust daily...
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No,no not refinancing our family home.My parents is PKNS stuff.He get to buy land below market price if work more than 15years.So they each have one lot.So we are refinancing one of them.


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i think most customer also malay and chinese
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Our target customer mostly is working adult that practice healthy lifestyle,UITM students and family.

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5years without paying a single cent except for the ingredient supply.And 3years warranty for the machine.
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Without paying for loyalty, franchisees can’t expect from franchisor cohesive national advertisement and promotion, products development, training, supports, QA/QC, etc. On the other hand, without monitoring and control from the franchisor, franchisee can use alternative raw materials, ingredients and SOP, add items to menu, etc. Down the road, one can expect huge variance between franchisees.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 23 2012, 03:04 AM)
Without paying for loyalty, franchisees can’t expect from franchisor cohesive national advertisement and promotion, products development, training, supports, QA/QC, etc. On the other hand, without monitoring and control from the franchisor, franchisee can use alternative raw materials, ingredients and SOP, add items to menu, etc. Down the road, one can expect huge variance between franchisees.
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They say the will only charge loyalty if they have more than 100 outlet nationwide. smile.gif .The material is control by franchisor smile.gif.Menu also what menu you expect us to add if we only sell froyo biggrin.gif
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Guys just to remind you,My Outlet is opening on 1st September,There will be 30% discount for 1st month opening,Hopw to see you all there biggrin.gif
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which franchise wud be the recommendation then? for housing area? not those in the mall. Food, preferably. Ard 500k budget.

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Guys just to remind you,My Outlet is opening on 1st September,There will be 30% discount for 1st month opening,Hopw to see you all there biggrin.gif
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The outlet near my condo was here for a couple of months and now 'Poof' .. gone edi. Due to the low demand even with students or family tenants around that area .. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Aug 17 2012, 11:20 AM)
where's the outlet location ?
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Especially if comparing with McFlurry
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You cant compare that with mcflurry,mcflurry is ice cream while snogurt is frozen yogurt,Somemore its using a premium grade yogurt from italy not the normal grade yogurt that usually sell at the supermarket.And,btw do you think you can get premium grade icecream for the price of an mcflurry?Please compare apple to apple about the price.


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The outlet near my condo was here for a couple of months and now 'Poof' .. gone edi. Due to the low demand even with students or family tenants around that area .. sweat.gif
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Which company?IINM all snogurt franchise still operating no outlet that gulung tikar already?

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You cant compare that with mcflurry,mcflurry is ice cream while snogurt is frozen yogurt,Somemore its using a premium grade yogurt from italy not the normal grade yogurt that usually sell at the supermarket.And,btw do you think you can get premium grade icecream for the price of an mcflurry?Please compare apple to apple about the price.
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This is where the business would fail.... Not all of the general public will go for PREMIUM yoghurt.
Would you think man-on-the-street had travel to Italy to taste Italian yoghurt ? People will always COMPARE with the food closes and cheapest.


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This is where the business would fail.... Not all of the general public will go for PREMIUM yoghurt.
Would you think man-on-the-street had travel to Italy to taste Italian yoghurt ? People will always COMPARE with the food closes and cheapest.
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But theres still will be businees,You know why?Because some health freak working adult especially ladies will still eating froyo than McFlurry because we are using low-fat milk that have low calories per serving.One example is my mum,she will only take rice for lunch 2days per week only,other than that she will only have TF for lunch.And thats why we come out in investing in froyo.Somemore,have you seen people complaining about the Haagen-Dazz icecream price?.No right.Because they know they are paying for premium icecream.Same prinsip as snogurt,We are selling premium item hence the price.Somemore why the pay as you take concept is use is we want to prevent wastage


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snogurt doesn't seem to be related to tutti frutti?
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they both taste the same, IMO.

however, consuming rm15++ worth of yogurt doesn't seems to satisfy my stomach

i felt more satisfying eating a cup of mcflurry! tongue.gif
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You cant compare that with mcflurry,mcflurry is ice cream while snogurt is frozen yogurt,Somemore its using a premium grade yogurt from italy not the normal grade yogurt that usually sell at the supermarket.And,btw do you think you can get premium grade icecream for the price of an mcflurry?Please compare apple to apple about the price.
You mean yogurt powder mix is from Italy? Do you add skimmed milk or just water to the mix? Didn't know there is premium grade yogurt, higher milk fat?

Low fat desserts mean high sugar. One can debate whether 10% milk fat is more harmful or 30% sugar.


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 17 2012, 06:54 PM)
You mean yogurt powder mix is from Italy? Do you add skimmed milk or just water to the mix? Didn't know there is premium grade yogurt, higher milk fat?

Low fat desserts mean high sugar. One can debate whether 10% milk fat is more harmful or 30% sugar.
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Higher grade yogurt mean better ingredient used,I dont know how to explain to you,Wait after i get back from the Course
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But theres still will be businees,You know why?Because some health freak working adult especially ladies  will still eating froyo than McFlurry because we are using low-fat milk that have low calories per serving.One example is my mum,she will only take rice for lunch 2days per week only,other than that she will only have TF for lunch.And thats why we come out in investing in froyo.Somemore,have you seen people complaining about the Haagen-Dazz icecream price?.No right.Because they know they are paying for premium icecream.Same prinsip as snogurt,We are selling premium item hence the price.Somemore why the pay as you take concept is use is we want to prevent wastage
Premium products (e.g. Haagen-Dazz) is not about perception only but use high quality and proper ingredients (e.g. high milk fat contents, real vanilla beans, etc). Skimmed milk is a byproduct from butter/cream making (i.e. low milk fat contents). Most if not all yogurts is made from skimmed milk (either in powder or liquid). For frozen yogurts to have creamy texture, much sugar is added. Most commercial frozen yogurt is made from powder mix. Topping is probably the only ‘high quality’ ingredients that frozen yogurt can use. So far, I haven’t seen a frozen yogurt use real vanilla bean. Apart from price, can't see how to experience premium frozen yogurt.

Not all consumers can afford to spend RM15 for a dessert regularly. McFlurry is an alternative, available widely and if you are targeting the same group of customers than McFlurry is your competitor. Products that sell at expensive price but use low quality ingredients (e.g. low fat gelato) will have a tough time after initial hype.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 18 2012, 10:09 AM)
Premium products (e.g. Haagen-Dazz) is not about perception only but use high quality and proper ingredients (e.g. high milk fat contents, real vanilla beans, etc). Skimmed milk is a byproduct from butter/cream making (i.e. low milk fat contents). Most if not all yogurts is made from skimmed milk (either in powder or liquid). For frozen yogurts to have creamy texture, much sugar is added. Most commercial frozen yogurt is made from powder mix. Topping is probably the only ‘high quality’ ingredients that frozen yogurt can use. So far, I haven’t seen a frozen yogurt use real vanilla bean. Apart from price, can't see how to experience premium frozen yogurt.

Not all consumers can afford to spend RM15 for a dessert regularly. McFlurry is an alternative, available widely and if you are targeting the same group of customers than McFlurry is your competitor. Products that sell at expensive price but use low quality ingredients (e.g. low fat gelato) will have a tough time after initial hype.
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The Snogurt and tutti are not in the same class as high end desserts. Comparing it with Haagen dazz or equating it as the same is wrong. At Haagen dazz you get full service and imported ice cream. Tutti fruit and snogurt you get self service and local made with some foreign ingredients. Again how can tutti frutti and Snogurt be high end when core ingredient uses is inferior milk. Haagen dazz use fresh milk from the farm from proper dairy cows
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Aug 17 2012, 11:31 AM)
Section 7,Shah Alam


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You cant compare that with mcflurry,mcflurry is ice cream while snogurt is frozen yogurt,Somemore its using a premium grade yogurt from italy not the normal grade yogurt that usually sell at the supermarket.And,btw do you think you can get premium grade icecream for the price of an mcflurry?Please compare apple to apple about the price.


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Which company?IINM  all snogurt franchise still operating no outlet that gulung tikar already?
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Got no idea what company is that since I didn't really enter the outlet. Monitor from outside and it seems to be pretty slow in business - only a few tables or one from time to time .. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Aug 18 2012, 11:49 PM)
Got no idea what company is that since I didn't really enter the outlet. Monitor from outside and it seems to be pretty slow in business - only a few tables or one from time to time .. sweat.gif
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1st time there, felt ripped and cheated. better off with haagen daaz or magnums. wished people would see the light and stay off that place.
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If you all really have bad perception about it,how will you become success?Fyi,minimum sales of per outlet per day is around 1000.And if you want to get return from investment in one year around 800++ per day.I am still have hopes for irt to become success
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I still better to invest in yogurt then bubble tea,and i am very confident insyallah we will get the breakeven before or around 1year.I will prove it to you forumer that always talk big but never do anything to success.Snogurt is just a leap for our next success.
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I still better to invest in yogurt then bubble tea,and i am very confident insyallah we will get the breakeven before or around 1year.I will prove it to you forumer that always talk big but never do anything to success.Snogurt is just a leap for our next success.
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I still better to invest in yogurt then bubble tea,and i am very confident insyallah we will get the breakeven before or around 1year.I will prove it to you forumer that always talk big but never do anything to success.Snogurt is just a leap for our next success.
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Boss, you are talking about Snogurt, but this thread is tutti frutti. Tutti Fruiti is very expensive so the negative impression. People not following from the beginning thought you are selling tutti fruitti lah tongue.gif

Got snogurt in Midvalley, tropicana, 1U kah ? i never try before. How much is 1 cup compare to tutti fruitti ?
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so snogurt is malaysia's brand?

how much is their franchise? 1 time, per year basis?

i never seen snogurt before.. do they taste as good as tutti and cheaper too?
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went to TF once. try the choc flav one. i already expect the price is higher than the empire state. but never mind, just give it a try. weighing jeng jeng 25++ for my yogurt.

taste quite good. but will never come back as im not supporting this ripoff business.
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Aug 23 2012, 11:32 AM)
Boss, you are talking about Snogurt, but this thread is tutti frutti. Tutti Fruiti is very expensive so the negative impression. People not following from the beginning thought you are selling tutti fruitti lah  tongue.gif

Got snogurt in Midvalley, tropicana, 1U kah ? i never try before. How much is 1 cup compare to tutti fruitti ?
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so snogurt is malaysia's brand?

how much is their franchise? 1 time, per year basis?

i never seen snogurt before.. do they taste as good as tutti and cheaper too?
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Yes malaysian brand,cheaper and taste the same or better than tf depends on people taste bud,franchise fees only 100k for 5year but not inclusive cost to start a shop

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Dont have in 1U,MV and tropicana right now

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Aug 23 2012, 10:35 PM)
How much is Snogurt per 100g ? And how much is Tutti Fruitti ?
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49sen vs 53sen but snogurt is lighther because using low-fat milk
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expensive iced yoghurt =/

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49sen vs 53sen but snogurt is lighther because using low-fat milk
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1 liter or 1kg of skimmed milk cost about RM6, mean the food cost is less than 15%, Gross Profit is over 75%!


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 24 2012, 12:24 PM)
1 liter or 1kg of skimmed milk cost about RM6, mean the food cost is less than 15%, Gross Profit is over 75%!
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Seems like bubble tea is more of a hype now compared to yogurt?

Well, do a research on the ROI before investing into anything
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Just went back from the snogurt training yesterday,Fyi snogurt don't use skimmed milk.We use marigold low-fat milk.And the calories per 100g is less than 100 calories.That's why our tagline is The Healthier Froyo.Anyway don't forget to like my fb page facebook.com/SnogurtS7ShahAlam
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Just went back from the snogurt training yesterday,Fyi snogurt don't use skimmed milk.We use marigold low-fat milk.And the calories per 100g is less than 100 calories.That's why our tagline is The Healthier Froyo.Anyway don't forget to like my fb page facebook.com/SnogurtS7ShahAlam
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Low fat milk is skimmed milk. How much sugar is added to 1 liter of milk?


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Low fat milk is skimmed milk. How much sugar is added to 1 liter of milk?
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1mix using 3l of low-fat milk and 750g of brown sugar
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the trend is slowly dying... smile.gif hope irfan can stay in business and prove us all wrong...
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1mix using 3l of low-fat milk and 750g of brown sugar
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why bother with low fat milk if you are going to use that much sugar
really unhealty to eat this dessert. sugar represents 25% percent of the finish product.
Actually this brings about the question can this be marketed as Healthy product due to the high sugar content
for a normal helping of 200grams of yogurt, you will be consuming 50grams of sugar

to put 50grams in reality its 10 teaspoons

this assumption is based on a natural flavored version and the milk contains no sugar. MOst milk contains natural sugar. and if you flavored the yogurt there might be some sugar in the flavor. And most important no extra condiments being added

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Guys today is my opening do drop by if you are free smile.gif dont forget to like my fanpage (refer to siggy) biggrin.gif
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You are hijacking this thread to promote your business.
Please create your own thread instead.
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First day sale not bad smile.gif
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Yes that is normal after all The shop is new. It's the sales after 6 months

Bragging would not do your business any good
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I congrat Irfan2397 on his new shop and wish him/her well too. It'll be great for all of us if Irfan2397 keeps us updated on the business and could share with us the up and downs on the operation side.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 3 2012, 12:57 AM)
Any live and active culture in your yogurt?
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Yes got life and active culture in our yogurt.We dont use powder we use fresh yogurt unlike our competitor.I can assure that thing because,I was the one whos mixing the yogurt fresh daily before putting it inside the machine biggrin.gif


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I congrat Irfan2397 on his new shop and wish him/her well too. It'll be great for all of us if Irfan2397 keeps us updated on the business and could share with us the up and downs on the operation side.
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No probs,Btw i am a bro.The only prob now is looking for trusted worker to handle the money because we are not fulltime there.I am going to school on weekdays and my parents both are working.Luckily our POS system and CCTV camera can be observed online smile.gif

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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 3 2012, 09:12 AM)
Yes got life and active culture in our yogurt.We dont use powder we use fresh yogurt unlike our competitor.I can assure that thing because,I was the one whos mixing the yogurt fresh daily before putting it inside the machine  biggrin.gif
After you mix powder with low fat milk, how long you wait before you pour into the soft serve machine? What is the acidity?

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 3 2012, 08:33 PM)
After you mix powder with low fat milk, how long you wait before you pour into the soft serve machine? What is the acidity?
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I dont know about the acidity,But after we mix it,We will wait for 5minutes before we pour into the machines smile.gif ,Btw we dont use powder,we use fresh yogurt
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 3 2012, 07:50 PM)
I dont know about the acidity,But after we mix it,We will wait for 5minutes before we pour into the machines  smile.gif ,Btw we dont use powder,we use fresh yogurt
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How much yogurt per 3 liter of milk?

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 3 2012, 11:46 PM)
How much yogurt per 3 liter of milk?
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Depends on the flavour.Normally between 1kg-3kg smile.gif
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I never tried any of these yogurt before in my life. I guess the uhm or marketing tool to attract one isn't there.
When I think of Yogurt, I think of those Nestle yogurt which I can get in 7-11, a No-no.
But if a cup cost about RM 10 bucks based on the picture, I say it is reasonable, But if it's a self service, I doubt I can prepare it so well la..

I, myself is a coffee fan.
I drink Starbucks so often, I can say I spend more than 100bucks a month on it for RM 15-17 a cup
Now with a loyalty card (Starbucks card) I go there even more often, and working in a service industry,
I spend my clients Starbucks .With its loyalty card, (buy 10 free 1), I am actually getting my company to pay 10 cups, to get myself a free drink. A true marketing strategy.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy my clients coffee at all! That is my personal experience.

But if I am comparing a business model between a coffee and yogurt.
I would assume that (without any research done) coffee would bring more profit.

A coffee bean has a very long expiry date (1-2 years is possible if the pack isnt open) , if business isn't good , the beans wouldn't be easily expiry,
I am not sure about Yogurt or fruits, How long can the ingredients last? If its a few months, then calculating the orders is very important.
Well overcharging is definitely a good way to cover waste

A handful of coffee beans can sell a cup for RM 10 - RM 15 bucks. I say the gross profit is definitely very high,
Labor wise, it is the same, both need a cashier and someone to refill stock or brew. Stabucks only hire 2-3 pax per shop per day.
Rental cost are the same, renovations cost, varies. But I like Starbucks better in it's interior.
What about Yogurt? What is the gross profit per cup? How many cups needs to be sold to cover the overhead cost?

In terms of market target,
I've just read about 5 pages of the forum, and I can say about 70% isnt willing to return because it is overpriced, meaning not much are willing to spend personal income on Yogurt.
If targeting healthy people, why not Salad or Gelatomio ice cream? The rum and raisins is soo good biggrin.gif
If you are targeting working people I would definitely bring my clients to Starbucks to discuss business models instead of Yogurt.
Maybe, I feel safe and professional to bring client to discuss business over coffee compared to Yogurt.
Never hear someone discuss business over Yogurt before.. it sounds weird, maybe I will check the stall one day, but if its self service, its worst.
You don't want yourself to go over the counter and get messy. I prefer to order and wait for my F&B to be ready than making a mess myself.

Those are my feedback, well business is business, with the right location and even if Yogurt can only capture a small amount 0.001% of market in a highly populated area,
Who says it cant make money? After all it's a take-away business, you don't need a huge space to gain profit.





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Unless the eatery is exceptional that customers are willing to travel from far away else need repeated customers to stay in business.

It is unfortunate that many newly opened eatery are more keen to have pay back period in less than a year than affordable priced for customers to return.

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hi irfan,

in terms of quality between snogurt vs tutti fruiti, which one more healthy? did your training cover this comparisons?

any help? thanks.
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QUOTE(ericwen @ Sep 4 2012, 03:30 PM)
hi irfan,

in terms of quality between snogurt vs tutti fruiti, which one more healthy? did your training cover this comparisons?

any help? thanks.
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We are trained not to condem other product smile.gif ,But what i learn that is Tf is using fullcream vs Snogurt using Low-fat milk.Somemore we dont use white sugar we use brown sugar, and what i know is,TF is using powder yogurt while we is using Fresh Yogurt smile.gif,SO i could say that snogurt is healthier.Our calory shown that,less than 100calories per 100gm of yogurt biggrin.gif
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too expensive... sorry..no chance for Tutti
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 4 2012, 03:34 PM)
We are trained not to condem other product smile.gif ,But what i learn that is Tf is using fullcream vs Snogurt using Low-fat milk.Somemore we dont use white sugar we use brown sugar, and what i know is,TF is using powder yogurt while we is using Fresh Yogurt smile.gif,SO i could say that snogurt is healthier.Our calory shown that,less than 100calories per 100gm of yogurt  biggrin.gif
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One can of 330ml coke has 139 calories.

http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/brands/coca-cola.html

It seems frozen yogurt calories is more than double of coke.


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Based on his earlier post of 750 grams per setting. Each 100ml has 25 grams of sugar.
25 grams of sugar is 100calories already not including the milk calories and the yogurt.

The Maths don't add up on calorie count? May need to double check on this
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wow....opening own business and not even focusing on ur own business full time....1 criteria for business wind up-checked....i tell u wat...if im ur parent i'll simply open an Overdraft account on their land/banglo lot as collateral and with the overdraft capital invest on strategic location property....flip upon completion...u'll make far better return than this kind of business....
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 19 2012, 10:21 PM)
wow....opening own business and not even focusing on ur own business full time....1 criteria for business wind up-checked....i tell u wat...if im ur parent i'll simply open an Overdraft account on their land/banglo lot as collateral and with the overdraft capital invest on strategic location property....flip upon completion...u'll make far better return than this kind of business....
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Why my dad want to quit his 5figure job? While hecan still monitor it from his tablet ,somemore my aunt is full time there , Somemore the businessjust started, Not so stabilize yet but we have hope in it smile.gif , Snogurt in Johor are making 2k per day ,We just need more aggrasievely marketing it biggrin.gif ,Dont you surprise that TF in Plaza Alam Sentral Shah Alam is making 6k per day,So while the can why can, We also can , Its nothing impossible in thus world bro tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 12:01 AM)
Why my dad want to quit his 5figure  job? While  hecan still  monitor  it  from his tablet  ,somemore  my aunt is  full  time there , Somemore the businessjust started, Not so stabilize  yet  but  we have  hope  in it  smile.gif ,  Snogurt  in  Johor are making 2k per day ,We just need more  aggrasievely marketing it  biggrin.gif ,Dont you  surprise that  TF  in Plaza  Alam Sentral  Shah Alam is making 6k  per day,So while the can why can, We also can , Its nothing  impossible  in thus world bro tongue.gif
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Curious to know; how much is your sale per day?

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 22 2012, 05:07 AM)
Curious to know; how much is your sale per day?
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Weekdays around 700-1k while weekend around 1.2-1.5k somemore this whole month we are giving 30% discount

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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 07:09 AM)
Weekdays around 700-1k while weekend around 1.2-1.5k somemore this whole month we are giving 30% discount
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Means the business is profitable thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 22 2012, 06:51 PM)
Means the business is profitable  thumbup.gif
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We are targetting to get back our invested money in one year
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 12:01 AM)
Why my dad want to quit his 5figure  job? While  hecan still  monitor  it  from his tablet  ,somemore  my aunt is  full  time there , Somemore the businessjust started, Not so stabilize  yet  but  we have  hope  in it  smile.gif ,  Snogurt  in  Johor are making 2k per day ,We just need more  aggrasievely marketing it  biggrin.gif ,Dont you  surprise that  TF  in Plaza  Alam Sentral  Shah Alam is making 6k  per day,So while the can why can, We also can , Its nothing  impossible  in thus world bro tongue.gif
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Statement could always be false. to attract u put Money in it .
And do u know how many TF branches is making less than RM200 per day ?
Those insider they won't tell u , they will.only enlarge the amount figure to attract invester . i would say this is one of the marketing strategy ,not scam .
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yeah.... if it's really making such a good money...
they would quietly open more store instead of encouraging other people to go into the business
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I was wondering is this TF thread or Snogurt.
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 07:09 AM)
Weekdays around 700-1k while weekend around 1.2-1.5k somemore this whole month we are giving 30% discount
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Are you sure your business is so good?
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 1 2012, 07:54 AM)
Guys today is my opening do drop by if you are free smile.gif dont forget to like my fanpage (refer to siggy) biggrin.gif
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I am now dont have anymore relationship with Snogurt Seksyen7 Shah Alam
So Please Dont Stalk me !!!!!

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So how now? How to like your fanpage?

And why u suddenly don't want to be associated with Snogurt within a month?

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Failure Investment, perhaps we should take his case as a lesson. Anyway credit to his afford to try though.
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 07:09 AM)
Weekdays around 700-1k while weekend around 1.2-1.5k somemore this whole month we are giving 30% discount
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so i went to TF kota damansara the strand yesterday abt 3pm, sunday afternoon

i spent rm34 2cups and within 30min while finishing my tf,

1 family of 6, bought 6 cups, shld be at least rm100
1 father n daughter came, bought 1 cup maybe rm15
1 little girl bought 1 cup maybe another rm15

so in that 30 mins total sales est ard rm150+ on a sunday afternoon.
if consistent i think maybe can reach rm1k per day on weekend.

on weekdays the office crowd not sure but tat day i saw my office colleaque 4 of them bought 4 cups they say they like it.
so if got crowd i think is possible to reach the target of rm700 on weekdays

im not a fan of tf just wanted to try and i think is exp.
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 06:01 PM)
We are targetting to get  back our invested money in one year
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Any update to share? Planning to open second outlet?


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 8 2013, 05:42 PM)
Any update to share? Planning to open second outlet?
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In plan but not now smile.gif
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QUOTE(sapapa @ Jul 6 2012, 09:37 AM)
Tutti fruity is just like Starbucks. 1 stall selling fruits and yogurts while the other selling coffee. A hangout place. 1 is rather light and the other is dim place. 1 is good for health and nutritious and the other is tasty and addictive for coffee lovers.

But why Starbucks has the upperhand?

1) People in Malaysia are not health-conscious.

2) If it is a hangout place for group of friends, a place to relax and a couple to date, a dim-lighted place is preferred.

3) Coffee has substance that stimulates your mind and is addictive just like tobacco.

These are the 3 main reasons I can think of why Tutti Fruity fails
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epic failed...how can u relate coffee with yogurt ? u can drink coffee daily , but u cant eat yogurts daily..... especially tutti fruiti .....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Sep 22 2012, 07:09 AM)
Weekdays around 700-1k while weekend around 1.2-1.5k somemore this whole month we are giving 30% discount
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u r actually attracting robbers to visit u smile.gif
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Mar 8 2013, 07:48 PM)
In plan but not now smile.gif
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Still in business? hope so....ur dad pay so many hundred thousand to open those.... sweat.gif ...hope he not rugi every month top up his own money cover rental and worker cost....electricity bill for commercial lot also is incredibly expensive yo.....
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 15 2013, 07:33 PM)
Still in business? hope so....ur dad pay so many hundred thousand to open those.... sweat.gif ...hope he not rugi every month top up his own money cover rental and worker cost....electricity bill for commercial lot also is incredibly expensive yo.....
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Thank You for the wish bro,Yeah still in businees,Come and visit me lah at Snogurt Seksyen7 Shah Alam for yumcha,Just pm me if you want come.
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good to see your business is alive and well....does your business support for any big company, sorporate to hire your staff and offer this yogurt during their special function in any of their location?
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tutti fruity subang in SS15 Subang tutup kedai.. less than a year i think...
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QUOTE(eksk @ Mar 18 2013, 11:19 AM)
tutti fruity subang in SS15 Subang tutup kedai.. less than a year i think...
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SS19 also tutup one.
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Good business. So many branches. When my turn?
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Kota kemuning branch also close alrady, and it is less than a year.
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Think more will be closing down as i see many branches are kinda empty.

They open too many store without full study on the location and crowd. I think they got better chance if open at shopping mall.
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franchisee lose big money...the one gaining the most? only the franchisor with the franchise fee and setup fee got mark up kaw kaw.. smile.gif we live in a brutal world...
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Baru ingat nak try tak jadi lah haha
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Tutti fruiti in Cyberjaya Domain still open...but when i see i always no ppl the most is 1 or 2 ppl.....maybe the rental is cheap so they can cover cost n survive....this kinda business no repeat customer....sekali makan kena charge rm20++ i trus ban this tutti fruiti for life lol....