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This post has been edited by heavenly91: Apr 24 2013, 11:51 PM

Im not in anyway well versed with ICE but if uve already allowed him to fit the ETone onto ur car, and theres no written invoice on the Trans system, theres nothing much u can do.

Gone case.... pay peanuts, get monkeys.....

He is from LYN.
His thread got put all Trans.
I already saved his page as evidence.

You want reply, use proper words.
And can you let me know Etone better or Trans better?

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jul 5 2012, 06:16 PM

who is the seller?

Someone frm LYN.
I just need you guys to tell me is the Trans component set better or Etone component set better?
And is the Trans amplifier set and Synergy set better?

No offensive lah........ You should have done some research before you go for these cap ayam brands... never mind, happened is happened.. are you satisfied with sound?

I have seen Etone is KK Lau's shop.. he said that it's for budget range, entry level.... But, Trans ??? No idea... some one was selling super cheap in LYN...

I am satisfied for now.
But recently my side speaker for my door side got problem adi.
So just asking it is because the brand problem?

And how about the synergy brand amplifier? It is ok?

Use less than 1 month adi got problem.

All these are funny names for cap ayam units made at 1 factory somewhere in PRC... Problem could be poor wiring...not all accessory shops do proper wiring....

You should spend a lot of $$$ if you need a decent ice.. always go for known brand names...

lesson learnt ?

This post has been edited by keyven: Jul 5 2012, 06:34 PM

I memang know entry level sure okok only.
But did not expect the stuff to spoil before 1 month.
Luckily still got warranty.
Maybe I should demand for longer warranty.

Go back to the shop... nego with him for a bit top up to fix known brand ones... peace of mind atleast

that's the best advise I can give you....

What kind of known brand?

Pioneer is decent... Alpine If you can spend a bit...

Note that I am not mentioning those super brands which people talk here to confuse you....

This is for the amplifier set right?

No.. Pioneer speakers and HU if needed... Amps...you can retain your one... But be sure to see how they do wiring...

What car you are driving??

Icic..
I am using iswara.
My hu is kenwood
Will get back to the fella molo.
If he refuse help me do some changes have to complain to moderator to make his dispute.

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jul 5 2012, 07:00 PM

Mind pming me his nick? And had you pmed the guy about your issue now? You did called him before you went there right? Or you went there THEN was only told that they had no stock.

pioneer hu a lot of difference compare to clarion? my standard is clarion n shop is reco to change to pioneer

remember seeing you lurking around for the best offer , but did not expect this to happen to you.

but ntg much you can do, as shop owner told you that he would be putting e tone component set and if you did not agree should not have fix it at the first place .

ntg much you can do , just take it as a lesson



but no use mentioning the amp name itself, specs wise, might be better or vice versa

This post has been edited by Sh@rty 5: Jul 5 2012, 08:36 PM

+1

I believe you have no case because if you objected, shoulda said something b4 he put in the Trans.
As far as quality is concerned, its your choice of chap ayam.

@keyven: Its possible the brand you saw at KKLau was Eton (made in Europe somewhere) which is a fairly decent brand. 1 'e' makes a big diff from Etone.

Imagine the day when KKLau start selling "etone" ....

And when those Merz realise it was "etone" that is running in their car now.

dun simply said la bro..peace

Thread starter should pm seller or call to ask bout it . And mostly its just some wiring prob for speaker

Cause seller is also a repputable seller. So perhaps a discussion to find out ur answer shud be much appropriate .

Unless seller doesnt bother to reply u

I went there only say.
I dun really care abt the brand actually.
I just want a God Damn thing to work well for me for at least 3 years that's all

Kenwood is more for sound clarity
Pioneer for bass am I right?

You and him offer same price.
The reason why I go his shop cz he call me str8 after I msg.
I tot he gd customer service

He already buka my car seat blah blah
How I want say no?
He pasang balik ka?

Finding him tomorrow

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jul 6 2012, 12:25 AM

this like 'tactic' kedai motor at chow kit..
i ask for minor repair... they f**k**g buka & barai my engine.. then asked to buy few expensive parts... if not they won't pasang balik !

Yes lor, or else what you want to do?

If you think what you want cannot be delivered, of course you have the right to say no.

it all depends on situation, if customer did not drop deposit and walk in only to find out that they ran out of stock , it's a fair situation for them to exchange to another brand, if they notify the customer.

anyway, sure you will get your problem fixed

* regarding the amp, if you insist on getting back as offered in thread, its up to both seller and buyer to come up with a win win situation

cheers

you would have save some bucks if you do a bit more survey

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Noted.
he got notify me..
btw u think his warranty ok?
He only give 6 months warranty for speaker
And 1 year warranty for amplifier


like I said earlier I dun care the brand adi after thinking.
I am just curious about the reliability only

if following the original thread,everything should be a year warranty

but again, it is not suitable for us outsider to comment regarding the 6 months ok or not, cause as many factors need to be considered..

perhaps shop owner upgraded the amp. or gave you better wiring , so reducing the component set warranty

understood.
Thx for the comment..

so folks, lesson learned on cap ayam. if you paid x, dont expect x to perform y.

having an expectation of cheap chicken brand to perform 3 years is unrealistic when even reputable brand entry levels may not even last that long depending on how you abuse your speaker sets.

But the fact that he called ts saying he have the stuff then telling ts that the items were out of stock when he arrived is just too fishy

Dont be too offensive lah.. apart from business, KK Lau is a nice man too

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Added on July 6, 2012, 9:09 amThats what I told "Pay peanuts, get monkeys".. TS feels offended ........... After commiting the mistake, it is not fair to roll back the time machine....

TS, note that you have done it knowingly or unknowingly.... Now the seller is on stronger side....having taken your concurrence before installation....

Now you can discuss with him for upgrade if you are not happy with the sound quality.... No fun in asking the same question here...........

This post has been edited by keyven: Jul 6 2012, 09:09 AM

I think better you do some research and also get the correct spelling of the equipment say Alpine, Pioneer not Apline,Pionear or Kingwood then go back to the installer to ask him to replace it with original equipment. May top up a little bit at least you get an original stuff.

This is a classic one... may cap ayam brands move the alphabets around to simulate the original brand names... need to be careful....

from a seller point of view

* don't shoot me yea* just sharing

it might be true that when owner called, they still have the stock , but when owner close the phone, might be another buyer came to buy the last set off

that's why in advertising , we always see the word, all information are correct at the time of printing

Aiya, I was joking lar... I visit KKLau regularly also. It is ETON, not ETone. No additional "e" at the back~

I was just saying that, TS seats already up...Then seller realize no stock... Of course TS got the right to ask the seller to put the seats back ma.
If stock not available, why still insist on pasang.... right?


Of course he can offer something else, so it is purely TS decision then.

Anyway, trans or e-tonE also dont matter, as both brands also on similar par. Whatever it is, just send your car back to the seller, make sure he gets whatever needs to be done, and rest ur case la...full set including installations RM6++ you cannot be expecting super quality stuff lar...

TS disappeared !!!

I paid 1.7K for my cap ayam, some lausy wiring and cheapy door mod last time

lucky u on the right path now..lolz...btw, i found something interesting on your system that i dun got it from other system...time to rape your system tomorrow

I dun reli care whatever stupid brand
To me, can jalan for 3 years like tat enuf d.


What shud I say?


Bunch of b@stard accessory ppl scam u?
What shop is that?
At least mine is at satisfactory level


Already find the seller.
The speaker sent for warranty.
Regarding the sound system.
I don't mind actually.
Can blast song then I satisfy cz the sound system is not bad actually.
So far his after sales service is good.
We will see how this dealing goes.

if just wan some music & some bass , pretty sure those you have installed would do good for you

dun expect top sound quality, but lasting? should be good, even stock speaker last some cars for 5 years

Did TS mentioned that he wants his x set to perform like y? He said he wants his set to perform reliably for 3yrs, which is not impossible with proper installation.

And dun look down on ayam brands.
With right installation ayam brand can sound "decent" too. Not great but decent.

Improper installation, even branded equipments can sound ayam.

Just my 2c.

i already mentioned that even reputable brands may not last 3 years. and i've also mentioned it depends on how much abuse you give to your speakers.

if you listen at fairly soft levels and just go with radio on your stock HU, even stock car paper proton speaker can last you over 10 years.

decent, is also very subjective. if all you want is sound to come out from something, don't need chicken brand, even stock paper speakers will suffice.

Then what is the purpose of you saying that "if you paid x, dont expect x to perform y."???

TS clearly did not expect his Etone to perform like real Eton.

-->> Yalah, you're saying reliability of the speakers depends on the owner's usage. Reliability is NOT determined by how much he paid for a certain brand vs how much he could have paid for a more branded equipment right?

He said he's satisfied with the sound. He's only trying to look for help with problem on his door side speaker & some warranty issue.

Then in this case no point attacking ayam brand. The way you compare with stock proton speaker it's like trying to say might as well dun change.

He asked A, you answer A la. If you dun wanna answer his queries also dun need to bash the brand he use ma.

Must understand not everyone has "audiophiliac" requirements.
Walao eh...

from first post:


do you think comparing between chicken brand a and chicken brand b matters?

clearly TS is expecting something, however it is not up to his expectations. installation fault aside, chicken brands are cheap for a reason. the materials they used can be of lower quality to save cost, which results in much cheaper retail price. if the materials are of lower quality, would you expect it to last as long as reputable brands assuming both are under the same usage/abuse?

that was my whole point really.

and i am so sorry not everyone has a passion to defend chicken brands, which seems evident in this thread.

TS: if your problem is resolved (looks like it is? warranty being upheld, good after sales service and what not) i think you can close the thread right? if got issue again you can re-open this thread (the same way you close it) at any time and give a bump via "do not merge post with previous post" check box checked.

actually, reliability also depends on luck as well. If lucky, cap ayam can last 10 years, if unlucky, give you Focal also might rosak in a year.

Whats the thing?

I think TS punya intention of opening this thread is:

1. He wanted to buy TRANS, because from feedback it is a very good brand with excellent performance.
2. Manatau seller give him Etone and some other brand of amplifier.
3. Then after install, got some irritating sound. So he starts to worry about the performance of the item he purchased, and also the warranty offered by seller... Because he wants TRANS, but didn't get TRANS so takut kena cheat lor. Since he is only newbie and want something different than stock.
Also, he expects the items to last for probably 3 years....

I think he went back and the seller fixed his problem already. So he is happy for now lor....

But from his description, I don't think the unit can last lor ... since he uses the word "blast" in the way he listens to music.

Doesn't matter to you and to me, but MAYBE it matters to some other people who doesn't want branded/highend stuffs.
The amount he paid might be nothing to you, but it might be quite an amount to other people.



See? Assuming again.
Yea he is expecting Etone to be better/on par/equivalent value with TRANS.

didnt find him today? lol

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Added on July 8, 2012, 4:27 pmword. pretty much this

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 8 2012, 04:27 PM

very well said bro... sometimes i noticed they are very 'proud' with their branded item !

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Added on July 8, 2012, 5:30 pmGood word sir...!

This post has been edited by hilmims: Jul 8 2012, 05:30 PM

good job bro. and now we officially have 2 sides of a fence.

TS: you wanna close a resolved thread now before it gets outta hand?

Quaz, to end this.
I'm just trying to say there's a market for everyone.
That's why even in reputable ICE shops you'll see a wide range of products, from cheap to unbelievably expensive.

If TS complained that seller SKL him that his Etone can sound better than branded stuffs then yes, what you said make sense. He paid X amount cannot expect to sound like Y.

Now what he wants is tahan 3years. With proper installation, usage, care and a little bit of luck, it's not rocket science and I dun think it is entirely impossible.

If he blasts/abuse etc. etc. that is his own pasal liao, that is his own fault for improper usage of equipment.
And yes, in this case he cannot expect longevity of his equipment. Branded or non branded.

Again, just my 2c.

Happy for now only LOL..
I think I shouldn't blast that loud adi.
Scared later the speaker kaput.
It should be resolved.

got it.

thx.
My thread can be closed.