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TSseng chong
post Jul 4 2012, 10:31 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hello ladies and gentlement.
I'm planning to take up Biomedical course. Unfortunately, I dont have any idea which University should i choose.
Can give some opinion? Would u like to choose IMU or Taylor? reason? icon_question.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 10:37 PM

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i would say non of these
TSseng chong
post Jul 4 2012, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(lifeyeah @ Jul 4 2012, 11:37 PM)
i would say non of these
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then u think which 1 is the top uni in the local for biomed?

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post Jul 4 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(seng chong @ Jul 4 2012, 10:31 PM)
Hello ladies and gentlement.
I'm planning to take up Biomedical course. Unfortunately, I dont have any idea which University should i choose.
Can give some opinion? Would u like to choose IMU or Taylor? reason? icon_question.gif
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Go imu. Also can sign up for med and get an interim biomed degree in gap year.
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post Jul 5 2012, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 5 2012, 12:28 AM)
Go imu. Also can sign up for med and get an interim biomed degree in gap year.
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The Taylor not good maa?? IMU got a bit leceh laa... They need MUETS or IELTS o
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post Jul 5 2012, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(seng chong @ Jul 5 2012, 08:39 AM)
The Taylor not good maa?? IMU got a bit leceh laa... They need MUETS or IELTS o
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Those are BASIC requirements!
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post Jul 6 2012, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 5 2012, 09:48 AM)
Those are BASIC requirements!
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Why would u prefer imu rather than Taylor? If monash.. Which want would u choose? IMU or MOnash??
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QUOTE(seng chong @ Jul 6 2012, 06:43 PM)
Why would u prefer imu rather than Taylor? If monash.. Which want would u choose? IMU or MOnash??
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Why Taylor?
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post Jul 6 2012, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 6 2012, 08:09 PM)
Why Taylor?
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Taylor is the cheapest among the three campus...
What about monash and imu? Which 1 is better??
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QUOTE(seng chong @ Jul 6 2012, 08:28 PM)
Taylor is the cheapest among the three campus...
What about monash and imu? Which 1 is better??
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If price is the factor, then choose the right one after looking at the scope covered in comparison.
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post Jul 7 2012, 12:06 AM

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If cost is a major factor - you should look at other IPTS as well~

MSU is the first IPTS to set-up biomedical degree program in early 2003 and their faculty of Health Science has been strong ever since, Govt. Medical Laboratory Technicians (MLTs) are also trained there~

So, experience-wise, MSU has the upper hand...

I graduated from there @ end of 2007 - later I joined MBBS program~

http://www.msu.edu.my/v7/fhls/bbiomed.php

...back then MSU is known as KUTPM, and it cost me around RM36 thousand +/- for the entire program, I'm not sure about the latest fee for the program.

Nowadays many IPTS apart from the ones you mentioned have started-up their own biomedical program (some goes by the name Medical Labotarory Science degree - syllabus-wise, almost the same), eg:

- UTAR: http://www.utar.edu.my/fs/index.jsp?fcatid...&fcontentid=838
- MAHSA: http://www.mahsa.edu.my/faculties/allied-h...dical-sciences/
- UNISEL: http://www.unisel.edu.my/prospective-stude...programmes.html
- Masterskill: http://amu.edu.my/MASTERSKILL%20WEBSITE/pr...cBiomedical.php

The following threads are some info on biomedical program in Education Essentials:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/873882/all

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1779392/all

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=40486422

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 6 2012, 10:01 PM)
If price is the factor, then choose the right one after looking at the scope covered in comparison.
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actually is the same when u guraduated
the diffrent is u pay more laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 7 2012, 01:06 AM)
If cost is a major factor - you should look at other IPTS as well~

MSU is the first IPTS to set-up biomedical degree program in early 2003 and their faculty of Health Science has been strong ever since, Govt. Medical Laboratory Technicians (MLTs) are also trained there~

So, experience-wise, MSU has the upper hand...

I graduated from there @ end of 2007 - later I joined MBBS program~

http://www.msu.edu.my/v7/fhls/bbiomed.php

...back then MSU is known as KUTPM, and it cost me around RM36 thousand +/- for the entire program, I'm not sure about the latest fee for the program.

Nowadays many IPTS apart from the ones you mentioned have started-up their own biomedical program (some goes by the name Medical Labotarory Science degree - syllabus-wise, almost the same), eg:

- UTAR: http://www.utar.edu.my/fs/index.jsp?fcatid...&fcontentid=838
- MAHSA: http://www.mahsa.edu.my/faculties/allied-h...dical-sciences/
- UNISEL: http://www.unisel.edu.my/prospective-stude...programmes.html
- Masterskill: http://amu.edu.my/MASTERSKILL%20WEBSITE/pr...cBiomedical.php

The following threads are some info on biomedical program in Education Essentials:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/873882/all

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1779392/all

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=40486422
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Hi:)this means you spent 8 years to be a GP?can you share the details if you don't mind?thank you in advance:)
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post Aug 1 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(RAJ94 @ Aug 1 2013, 09:56 AM)
Hi:)this means you spent 8 years to be a GP?can you share the details if you don't mind?thank you in advance:)
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He graduated from a biomed course, which lasted for 3 years before moving on to a mbbs programme for another 5 years as a postgrad degree. However, he's not a GP yet even after 8 years.

To qualify in GP, we still need to undergo 2 years housemenship together with another 2 years of government medical officer.
Then, there is a 3 years registrar training for GP.

(Correct me if I'm wrong) biggrin.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(RAJ94 @ Aug 1 2013, 09:56 AM)
Hi:)this means you spent 8 years to be a GP?can you share the details if you don't mind?thank you in advance:)
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3 years Biomedical Science Degree, followed by 3 or 4 years of MMBS. then housemanship. There's exemption of the first year (or 1st and 2nd- I cant remember) for the MBBS.
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QUOTE(seng chong @ Jul 4 2012, 10:31 PM)
Hello ladies and gentlement.
I'm planning to take up Biomedical course. Unfortunately, I dont have any idea which University should i choose.
Can give some opinion?
Sure! See the banners on the left and right? brows.gif

MONASH University is ranked #1 in Australia and the top 50 in the world for 22 subjects. laugh.gif

Now, you just need to check if the Biomedical course is whether or not one of the 22 subject. icon_idea.gif

You can ask Farmer_C as well. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 01:24 PM

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Is there a demand for biomedical science careers now?
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post Aug 1 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 1 2013, 01:24 PM)
Is there a demand for biomedical science careers now?
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No. Unless you do sales
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QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Aug 1 2013, 01:30 PM)
No. Unless you do sales
So Biomed grads don't get to design the Biomedical equipment (in Malaysia) for commercial purpose? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Aug 1 2013, 01:59 PM)
So Biomed grads don't get to design the Biomedical equipment (in Malaysia) for commercial purpose? icon_question.gif
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You can design whatever you want. The question is, can it sell well in Malaysia? I'm sure you don't see Made in Malaysia test kits or equipments in your lab, right?

He's asking about the DEMAND anyway. Definitely no demand. We are still lagging behind.
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QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Aug 1 2013, 02:04 PM)
You can design whatever you want. The question is, can it sell well in Malaysia? I'm sure you don't see Made in Malaysia test kits or equipments in your lab, right?

He's asking about the DEMAND anyway. Definitely no demand. We are still lagging behind.
Good point! smile.gif Naturally to laymen, Biomedical Engineers are employed by health services, medical equipment manufacturers and research institutes to research, design and develop medical products for clients with special needs in a rehabilitation setting, or managing the use of clinical equipment in hospitals and the community.

So, are the Biomedical Engineering programs offered on demand like selling hot cakes in Malaysia, just to train the sales personnel? icon_question.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Aug 1 2013, 02:16 PM)
Good point! smile.gif Naturally to laymen, Biomedical Engineers are employed by health services, medical equipment manufacturers and research institutes to research, design and develop medical products for clients with special needs in a rehabilitation setting, or managing the use of clinical equipment in hospitals and the community.

So, are the Biomedical Engineering programs offered on demand like selling hot cakes in Malaysia, just to train the sales personnel? icon_question.gif
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hmm.gif I was talking about Biomedical Science. I do know quite well the market-like for this course. But if its biomedical engineering, I'm not sure. All I can see is sales personnel coming over to the lab checking on machines and stuff.

Which university/college offering this course btw?

There's tons of programmes offered out there claiming that it is in demand but the fact is, it is not. Not in Malaysia that is. Same goes with Biomedical Engineering. Most of them ended up in the sales line. Not to say that it is offered just to train them for sales, but I'm sure you know well that the research and development field for biomedical-related is still far behind in Malaysia. Also, with the kind of mentality we have "our product can never be as good as the foreign ones", who would want to purchase your equipment? Grass is definitely greener out there when it comes to this field.

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post Aug 1 2013, 05:09 PM

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Also look at the subjects u're learning from and see the other subjects offered by other colleges especially out of malaysia , aka us and uk ,
they have a different approach to education, plus, you get to work 20 hours a week , make decent living and hang out with giagin there. tongue.gif
nowadays colleges / unis only offer knowledge , when u really need is practical experience + working experience.
just a thought !
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QUOTE(newbzie @ Aug 1 2013, 05:09 PM)
Also look at the subjects u're learning from and see the other subjects offered by other colleges especially out of malaysia , aka us and uk ,
they have a different approach to education, plus, you get to work 20 hours a week , make decent living and hang out with giagin there. tongue.gif
nowadays colleges / unis only offer knowledge , when u really need is practical experience + working experience.
just a thought !
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honestly speaking, it doesn't matter anymore because at the end of the day, IF you gonna come back to Malaysia to work in the biomed field, it's a waste of money to study overseas. Salary-wise is quite pathetic. Unless you want to stay there, then yeah, you'll earn better. OR, you intend to go into the academic line and planning to further your study right up to PhD; then yeah, still worth it.
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QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Aug 1 2013, 02:55 PM)
Which university/college offering this course btw?
You are working in the Biomedical sector and the list below could be incomplete. Are these Biomedical-related courses on hot demand in Malaysian market? icon_question.gif So far, I haven't seen the sales personnel is listed as one of Biomedical Engineering job prospects.

University of Malaya (UM)
Bachelor of Biomedical Engineering (BBEng)
http://www.um.edu.my/mainpage.php?module=M...&id=543&papar=1

Bachelor of Biomedical Engineering (Prosthetics & Orthotics)
http://www.um.edu.my/mainpage.php?module=M...&id=544&papar=1

Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM)
Bachelor of Engineering (Bio-Medical)
http://www.biomedical.utm.my/V1/index.php?...id=54&Itemid=63

Universiti Tun Hussein Onn Malaysia (UTHM)
Bachelors of Electronic Engineering (Medical Electronic) with Honours
http://www.uthm.edu.my/v2/content/view/86/96/lang,en/

Universiti Malaysia Perlis (UniMAP)
Bachelor of Engineering (Hons) in Biomedical Electronic
http://mechatronic.unimap.edu.my/index.php...ical-electronic

The University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus (UNMC)
Bachelor of Science (Hons) Biomedical Sciences
http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Study/Undergr...%28Hons%29.aspx

Taylor's University
Bachelor of Biomedical Science (Hons)
http://www.taylors.edu.my/en/university/sc...al_science_hons

Sunway University
Bachelor of Science (Hons) Medical Biotechnology
http://sunway.edu.my/university/fst/med-biotech

Multimedia University (MMU)
Bachelor of Engineering (Hons.) Electronics Majoring in Bio-Instrumentation
http://www.mmu.edu.my/index.php?req=130

QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Aug 1 2013, 02:55 PM)
There's tons of programmes offered out there claiming that it is in demand but the fact is, it is not. Not in Malaysia that is. Same goes with Biomedical Engineering. Most of them ended up in the sales line. Not to say that it is offered just to train them for sales, but I'm sure you know well that the research and development field for biomedical-related is still far behind in Malaysia.
Observable. nod.gif

QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Aug 1 2013, 02:55 PM)
Also, with the kind of mentality we have "our product can never be as good as the foreign ones", who would want to purchase your equipment? Grass is definitely greener out there when it comes to this field.
This isn't entirely true because one of my Malaysian acquaintances named Adi (25+ yo), has invented a Multifunction Disposable Safety Syringe, called AD Syringe (AD = “Auto-Disable”). This product is marketed by Selia-Tek Medical Sdn Bhd, and currently sold in Asia-Pacific, Africa, and Middle East under the brand called “SOL-JECT® AD Syringe”. This patent-pending product is filed under World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) with Pub. No. [WO/2013/009166]. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Aug 2 2013, 07:02 PM)
You are working in the Biomedical sector and the list below could be incomplete. Are these Biomedical-related courses on hot demand in Malaysian market? icon_question.gif So far, I haven't seen the sales personnel is listed as one of Biomedical Engineering job prospects.

University of Malaya (UM)
Bachelor of Biomedical Engineering (BBEng)
http://www.um.edu.my/mainpage.php?module=M...&id=543&papar=1

Bachelor of Biomedical Engineering (Prosthetics & Orthotics)
http://www.um.edu.my/mainpage.php?module=M...&id=544&papar=1

Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM)
Bachelor of Engineering (Bio-Medical)
http://www.biomedical.utm.my/V1/index.php?...id=54&Itemid=63

Universiti Tun Hussein Onn Malaysia (UTHM)
Bachelors of Electronic Engineering (Medical Electronic) with Honours
http://www.uthm.edu.my/v2/content/view/86/96/lang,en/

Universiti Malaysia Perlis (UniMAP)
Bachelor of Engineering (Hons) in Biomedical Electronic
http://mechatronic.unimap.edu.my/index.php...ical-electronic

The University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus (UNMC)
Bachelor of Science (Hons) Biomedical Sciences
http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Study/Undergr...%28Hons%29.aspx

Taylor's University
Bachelor of Biomedical Science (Hons)
http://www.taylors.edu.my/en/university/sc...al_science_hons

Sunway University
Bachelor of Science (Hons) Medical Biotechnology
http://sunway.edu.my/university/fst/med-biotech

Multimedia University (MMU)
Bachelor of Engineering (Hons.) Electronics Majoring in Bio-Instrumentation
http://www.mmu.edu.my/index.php?req=130
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This isn't entirely true because one of my Malaysian acquaintances named Adi (25+ yo), has invented a Multifunction Disposable Safety Syringe, called AD Syringe (AD = “Auto-Disable”). This product is marketed by Selia-Tek Medical Sdn Bhd, and currently sold in Asia-Pacific, Africa, and Middle East under the brand called “SOL-JECT® AD Syringe”. This patent-pending product is filed under World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) with Pub. No. [WO/2013/009166]. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Thanks alot for the listed universities There's actually 3 different courses within the same field of Biology as what you have stated (1) biomedical (2) biotech (3) engineering-electronic related. I came from (1). I used to work in the hospital and I have seen these people doing follow up in the laboratory once in a while. They could be a biomedical grad, biotech or bio engineering. I've tons of friends working as a sales personnel in the pharmaceutical industry. From what I can conclude generally, there's limited job available for the bio-industry. Even if there is, the pay sucks.

That friend of yours is one in a million (just a figure of speech here). He's lucky to have his invention successfully sold. But honestly, tell me, out of the thousands grad in this field, how many can actually have this "luck"? Do you have such amount of time to work on the research till you manage to get it market? If money is not your concern, by all means go ahead and spend all your time in the research. In the end, it all goes back to the individual I guess. Anyway, this is only my personal opinion and observation.

 

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