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post Jul 16 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 16 2012, 01:14 PM)
yeah if we're talking about wireless ones, which will you recommend?
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anyway,i so tempting to get dell 24" led now sad.gif
only $274
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jul 16 2012, 05:26 PM)
get samsung LED...

mine 23" with 3 years on site warranty. $165. 24" for that wont be 270$ kua.
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but dell led looks sharper compare to samsung and its IPS
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jul 16 2012, 05:57 PM)
are u sure.... but can save a lot LOL
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i duno.im very fuzzy with display quality.i like vivid color in full hd display drool.gif

QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 16 2012, 07:26 PM)
yeah yeah, im eyeing the razer orochi and the kobuta soft-surface. looks like a good combo, but the price is steep~!  mad.gif
bro it is a good deal man, when i got my dell 24" ips i paid rm1500. but once you see the dell screen you won't regret.
bro the rechargeable battery seems interesting. how much did you pay for yours?


Added on July 16, 2012, 5:30 pmwow just checked out the roccat pyra wireless you are talking about, looks very nice, very tempted and the price is like almost half of razer orochi~!
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how was the monitor compare to others? looks good in movie and game? it's matte right?

anyway, you should get razer mamba brows.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jul 16 2012, 11:01 PM)
hmmm...

it seems that it is quite rare to find a vivid/glossy screen for a big 1 somwhow. hmm.gif

mostly come with wide angle/matte
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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 16 2012, 11:40 PM)
thanks for the review... I don't do a lot of fps... I'm only playing Diablo 3 now.  and I found a sweet deal, pyra bundle with sense only for 169. very tempted to pull the trigger!!!

yes the screen is matte, very good in movies and gaming. viewing angle is superb too. I do think Dell has one of the best screens.

mamba any good? is wired right?
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mamba is wired/unwired.2 in one. i wil lget that one once my DA died
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jul 16 2012, 11:43 PM)
how much it cost?  brows.gif

can u afford it?  brows.gif
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i would if i have cash lying around.
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post Jul 17 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jul 17 2012, 12:59 PM)
yeah, it cost a whole new P151EM1. lolz
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lol cant really compare lol. is like buy 1 standalone gtx680m can get 1 normal laptop..
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 23 2012, 07:27 PM)
just intalled crucial m4 on my laptop, loving it. it flies now
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how do you feel with shut down?not much difference right?>
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 25 2012, 07:55 PM)
very big difference also, both shut down and start up~! loving this ssd.
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mine not much for shut down
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post Jul 26 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 26 2012, 02:44 AM)
but I did a clean install of Windows, so probably that help. you should try reformat and see.shutdown time for me is faster than boot up
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yeah its 1 month old laptop and the shutdown time is not that speedy as bootup time but it's slightly faster than other normal HDD
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:51 PM

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OT: can a laptop with HD resolution play FHD in FHD TV via VGA cable?
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post Jul 30 2012, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jul 30 2012, 08:01 PM)
the capabilities of a laptop to generate a FHD quality video to a FHD TV is depends on how strong is your GPU.

Therefore, you have to check your GPU specifications in order to know it can generates FHD TRU VGA transmission or not.

For example, the transmission of Nvidia GTX 670M

Maximum Digital Resolutions: 2560 x 1600
Maximum VGA Resolutions: 2048x1536

While Nvidia 8400M GS

Maximum VGA Resolutions: 1920x1080

So... yeah, if you think you GPU is better then this 8400M GS, then you definitely can run it in a FHD display.
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its 8600m gt
i guess that possible with VGA

thanks heaps!
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post Aug 5 2012, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 4 2012, 05:10 PM)
got my laptop today, having problem with the GPU sensor. Anyway to set the default to my nvidia card instead of the intergrated Intel Graphic ?

I change it at the nvidia control panel to use the nvidia card but still my CPUID Hardware Monitor is unable to pick up the card.
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not sure about nvdia but it's normal for amd 7970m. it won't pick up the card until i load up games or running heavy gpu usage.
my gpu-z will freeze until i load the game

QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 5 2012, 01:42 PM)
Yeah thanks able to see the temp now. Btw my temperature goes up to around 80'c when i game in an aircond room. Wonder is that normal or not ?
Yes so far gaming it will switch to discrete, but sometime benchmark test like passmark it wont. weird.
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i always get 82c in diablo 3 but 72c in other games. no idea why
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post Aug 5 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Aug 5 2012, 02:47 PM)
that is normal due to "Optimus" by nVidia. your nVidia is idle or inactive most of the time in underload situations (watching low quality movie, readings, internet, blablabla)

try to play some high def games or open ur nvidia control panel and refresh ur CPUID hardware monitor.


Added on August 5, 2012, 12:50 pm

maybe diablo 3 too inefficient?

btw, i rarely hit 80c too without overclocking
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i think mostly driver issue

anyway, i got new LED TV but my old laptop with vga output unable to transmit 1080p to the tv sad.gif

now i need to get hdmi cable to connect my current laptop to tv
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post Aug 5 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Aug 5 2012, 11:51 PM)
huh? but mine 8400M GS (DELL M1330) did pretty well on 1080p
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vga to hdmi?


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post Aug 6 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Aug 6 2012, 08:51 AM)
vga, tat time didnt have hdmi, jus got stock vga cable nia
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but there is no way to output vga to hdmi hdtv unless i buy a converter
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post Aug 6 2012, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Aug 6 2012, 10:15 PM)
nono, mine vga -> vga. my fhd led got both hdmi n vga port
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post Aug 14 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Isolation13 @ Aug 14 2012, 07:29 PM)
Hey Bro its worth it for the time being to get the GTX680m..because the AMD 7970m Enduro(Switchable graphics technology) problem is still not fix yet..the GPU utilization for me never go above 65%~70% when playing Battlefield 3 multiplayer(since you said you're a heavy gamer I assume this as an intensive game or to give you an idea of how big an impact it has) even if i lower the settings it lower the utilization thus i could not maintain 60 FPS.. 60fps is the minimum for me to play battlefield 3 multiplayer competitively..and this is happening to almost all of the games release...with the exception of Metro 2033(99% utilized)

So my advise for is you is to get the GTX680m if you want a hassle-free, out of the box-working laptop.

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BARE in mind that the issues(7970m enduro) has existed since 3 months ago..till now there is no solution to fix the enduro issue..however i might add that many of the users at notebookreview.com manage to get the attention of famous technology blogging sites to spread the issue further in order to make AMD acknowledge the issue exist and thus they are now currently investigating it. That is the current situation.

Don't get me wrong the 7970m is a powerful card..its a freaking downclock desktop AMD 7870(only around 11~15% downclock)..so I know that this mobile card(7970m) has no problem in maxing out any games currently..only problem is enduro is holding it back. Alienware knew that this would be an issue so they design their laptops to have a hardware mux that bypass enduro allowing the card to be fully utilized(99%).

Personally if i still have the option to switch to the GTX680m I would.
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all the games i played(finished diablo 3,max payne 3, NFS:The run, bf3) and they all running 99% most of the time. It only go down when there is a story after story/chapter ends.
the only issue i'm having is the high temp in diablo 3 only

i'm pretty sure it's a driver issue that holding 7970m horse
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QUOTE(Isolation13 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:46 AM)
well thats good for you then but not for me I basically have the same symptoms with almost all of the users in NBR who owns the same clevo 7970m card as me...Anyway my post earlier was about the BF3 Multiplayer (PREMIUM VERSION). BF3 single player is of course running at 99% MOST of the time however I do get lower utilization when playing multiplayer. By the way if you have the time can you please try to lower your settings to medium or low settings to see if you gain any significant increase in FPS especially in BF3 multiplayer cause I don't see any increase at all just lower utilization. unsure.gif
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can't test it cause removed bf3 already tongue.gif
but do you feel lag in multiplayer in low fps?

anyway, it could be most faulty unit are from sager units but mine is not sager(is horize) and so far no one complain 79790m issue from horize
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post Aug 16 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Isolation13 @ Aug 16 2012, 01:31 PM)
wow thats good news for you and really bad news for me and the rest of the ppl who owns the 7970m from Sager..=.='' I hope AMD solve it soon since they are investigating it.

And yes its really lags..cant shoot properly.
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i will wait for next game(borderlands,darksiders) and try again
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how often do you guys clean the laptop?mind is a bit dusty after 2 months

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