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Added on September 3, 2012, 6:18 pmi'll have a go on this

Elantra 1.8 over Civic 1.8S
01) 10 Way Power Seat (driver only)
02) Cruise Control
03) Nappa Leather Seats
04) Audio Visual Navigator (although a crappy one ) + Reverse Camera
05) Rain sensor
06) Light sensor
07) VSM
08) Keyless entry
09) DOHC?
10) Sunroof?
11) LED side signal lights?


Civic 1.8S over Elantra 1.8
01) Power fold side mirrors
02) 6 speakers (vs 4)
03) ECON mode

This post has been edited by mav3rick: Sep 3 2012, 06:19 PM

IINM, Civic is VSA which is equivalent to the ESP in the Elantra

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Added on September 3, 2012, 6:25 pmactually scrap that.. you're right.. VSA = ESP + VSM for the Elantra.. solli solli.

This post has been edited by mav3rick: Sep 3 2012, 06:25 PM

gua pun noobie jugak..

If i understand correctly, Electronic Stability Program (Elantra) /Vehicle Stability Assist (Civic) works to bring the car back under control (after losing traction) by exercising braking and traction control. The Vehicle Stability Management (Elantra) or VSA + EPS (Civic) works to maintain directional stability by adjusting steering inputs.

Either way, i sure hope i dont get into situations that require activation of either one of these safety measures..

yes, initially i took for granted that the VSA is only the equivalent to the ESP. Upon further checking, then only found out that it has VSM features as well. If i'm not mistaken, among the current Korean makes, only the Elantra is equipped with ESP+VSM. The rest are just ESP.

As for the other features, personally, I would have given up on the light/rain sensors for more air bags

On driving dynamics, we all know that Civic is the leader here. But i would say that the Elantra is slightly ahead in terms of comfort and NVH.

its more of an addition to the ESP rather than a more advance system. Normal ESP detects loss of control (oversteer/understeer) and applies braking/traction control to help bring the vehicle back under control. VSM on the other hand applies counter steering assist (up to 8 Newton counter steering) to help bring directional stability. An example i can think of is when speeding on a highway and driving one side into a water puddle where you will get a sudden pull in one direction. If i understand correctly, VSM will kick in to counter the pull.

like i said, if possible, i do not want to find myself in those situations, but its good to know that our cars have these safety features ready to kick in, as compared to some recently launched D segment car

yup.. T really needs to wake up and face reality.. the rest of the japs are already responding. Having said that, i wont be surprise if that 180k car emerges as the best selling D segment. Majority of Malaysians are still sticking to the resale value and after sales service. I can still relate to the 2nd point, BUT given the choice, i would not want to skimp on safety features. Just like how i wish the Elantra would come with 6 airbags

the new Civic?? wow.. how did they manage to squeeze in so much space given the shorter wheelbase?

ehehe.. + 1 here.. but have to commend H for at least trying to do something with the interior. There is still a lot of hard plastics, but at least they found a way to paint it to look like soft touch material but i have experience this scenario a couple of times already.. when a biadap car will be cutting into my lane without signalling and i will curse "Blardy Ah Beng City!!" only to find that its actually a Civic!!

no lar.. cybermaster is K5 owner

been wanting to ask this for quite some time.. lag in what sense bro?? do you mean the search/routing is slow? or the instructions is lagging? meaning it will only tell you turn after you are well past a junction or something?

yup.. for an normal untrained ear person like myself, i would say that the audio is not really amazing, but adequate. Didnt test on the radio reception though..

bz la boss.. need to cari makan, else no money to buy all those poison when my car comes in Nov

ahaha.. but i will try to come out whenever possible la.. which is kinda impossible in Nov.. maybe next year?

sorry bro.. balik ipoh next time ba... sure got change ger..

i have to agree on this. i did checked out the new civic hybrid at tropicana mall previously. Not sure if its the same in terms of space, but i did find the legroom a little cramp when compared to the Elantra. again, this is based on my personal experience.

This post has been edited by mav3rick: Sep 5 2012, 11:12 AM

bro Zanes is really a master when it comes to handling the fairer species.. i when you shared how 'taught' ur mrs not to wipe the rain drops from the car without rising it with water first. you that same guy right?? respect!!!

i need to learn how to handle my wife

ahaha.. you better tell her wor.. later buta buta waste 1k+ but still need to do open surgery

1) No ESP + VSM
2) No telescopic steering (only tilt)
3) different leather seats.

wahh bro.. you like manyak research HE wor.. bila mau naik kereta??

yeah, saw you posting on the M3 thread.. no worries bro.. the M3 is also a very good car. my parents and my uncle are driving the 1.6 currently.

lol.. i wish my mrs would do the same for me!!!!!!

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Added on September 11, 2012, 4:08 pmnot much choice for Hyundai.. gomen wanted to ensure all kronies get a slice of the cake mer..


This post has been edited by mav3rick: Sep 11 2012, 04:08 PM